Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Ministers draw up proposals to reintroduce masks in all indoor spaces, scanning in to pubs and restaurants and vaccine passports for more venues in the New Year – while PM continues to fight off rebellion from dozens of Tory MPs over Plan B​

  • Even tighter restrictions are being drawn up to tackle the spread of the Omicron variant
  • Top of list is reintroduction of rules requiring hospitality venues to collect the contact details of all customers
  • PM announced Plan B restrictions for England on Wednesday including masks and work from home orders
  • Tories and business have vented anger that the curbs do not make sense and will hammer struggling sectors
  • Sajid Javid insisted that the move is proportionate given the threat from the fast-spreading Omicron strain


A 'Plan C' which would see the imposition of even tighter restrictions is already being worked on by officials to tackle the threat of Omicron.

With many businesses reeling from the impact of Plan B measures announced this week, it emerged that further rules could be introduced in the New Year if the variant proves more dangerous than feared.

These include having to 'check in' with the NHS Covid app again to go to a pub or restaurant, using face masks in all indoor spaces, and having to show a vaccine passport at even more venues.

The first part of the Government's Plan B came into force on Thursday with the introduction of compulsory face masks in indoor settings such as theatres, cinemas and churches.

New work-from-home guidance will come into force on Monday, and MPs will vote the next day on the introduction of vaccine passports for nightclubs and large venues.



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Does anyone remember in the early days of the pandemic, those videos that were coming out of China of people falling down dead on the spot and body bags lined up and down the streets? Was that just a CCP pysop coordinated with the accidental release of the virus to scare the rest of the world into restrictions and destroying their economies? I can't think of any other reasons they would release such a thing. Because when it inevitably spread to the rest of the world and we had more data come out, COVID turned out to be mild and no one was collapsing to their deaths in the middle of the street.
 
Edit: Anecdotal, but here in NYC I am noticing more ambulances picking people up compared to 2020. I see an ambulance with their flashing red lights picking someone up right outside right this very moment as I type this. I wonder if the person they just put in has heart problems?
Not gonna say where I live, but it's somewhere where I can hear a fair distance away and there's not been a day in a year that I've not heard at least one ambulance.
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Don't work out. Don't get your heart rate up. Just sit in your pod, watch Netflix, eat Doordash and take the vaxx.
“The challenge we’ve got is finding qualified healthcare workers, because they don’t exist. Our nation’s lost over half a million health care workers who resigned, retired, left the field in the last several months. And so there’s a huge workforce crisis across our country,” Mueller said.
And whose fault is that, exactly?
It's like an abusive parent who says "You made me lock you outside because you didn't do what I told you."
 
Does anyone remember in the early days of the pandemic, those videos that were coming out of China of people falling down dead on the spot and body bags lined up and down the streets? Was that just a CCP pysop coordinated with the accidental release of the virus to scare the rest of the world into restrictions and destroying their economies? I can't think of any other reasons they would release such a thing. Because when it inevitably spread to the rest of the world and we had more data come out, COVID turned out to be mild and no one was collapsing to their deaths in the middle of the street.
Honestly from what I remember from when I had Covid, the fatigue is SO bad, and comes on suddenly. If a person was sick and trying to power through it to get somewhere I could totally see them passing out on the sidewalk.

As for the bodies on the streets, I dunno what that was about.
 
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@NoReturn "Not gonna say where I live, but it's somewhere where I can hear a fair distance away and there's not been a day in a year that I've not heard at least one ambulance."

For the sake of further clarification, is this noticeably different compared to other years?
Very much so. Before ~Feb. 2020 we used to make "Who broke what?" and "I didn't do it!" jokes when we heard a siren, but now it happens so often we don't even bother.
 
Nature exists only to be exploited.

This is why Chinamen are objectively superior to you and will rule over you.

It is not beauty, just resources to be exploited.
Those who exploit best, becomes Numbah Wan.

But be at ease, our yellow overlords at least hate niggers.
Please take the shot and die thanks.
 
Very much so. Before ~Feb. 2020 we used to make "Who broke what?" and "I didn't do it!" jokes when we heard a siren, but now it happens so often we don't even bother.
During lockdown we heard a siren go by and my girlfriend said "they must be on their way to arrest someone without a mask". Made me piss myself. But then all the videos came out with cops choking out young women for not wearing masks and it wasn't funny anymore.
 
Don't worry, they've been building the Antarctica set for decades now.

Unfortunately given how shitty the reality of our current dystopia has been im sure it will be highly underwhelming and not the Lizard-Nazi alliance we've all been waiting for.
That would explain what they were doing down there at the beginning of December. Like always, they let us know exactly what they are up to, as they are doing it.
 
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The Canadian media says this every year so people know to keep an eye on elderly neighbors. And it is a legitimate concern for old people.

You're not wrong for questioning it, but this is square. The concern is the sudden change in blood pressure accompanied by strenuous activity when 70 year old Bill chugs a coffee while inside his warm house then goes outside in -20 C and begins shoveling wet (heavy) snow like he's always done.

So 10 hours after my first jab, my left shoulder has swelled up and turned bright red, and I keep getting random aches and muscle spasms all down my limbs. Not the worst reaction I've had to a needle but it's a lot more severe than the doctor told me it would be. Also, the doctor basically admitted that they're having a problem with people's vaccine side effects lasting for more than a month after the first injection, telling me not to hesitate to push back my second one if that happens.
Shouldn't have taken one at all if you're active in this thread.

Got what you deserve.

Where I am the news keeps being that the hospitals are SO SO full you guise, cuz Covid.

Seriously?

Hospitals can't really help you if you have the Coof, unless you need a ventilator or oxygen. It's one of those things you just have to get over or die from. Why are so many supposedly going there?

I strongly suspect fiction is being spread faster than any virus could travel.
Same way hospitalizations have been "high" the entire time; got some other problem that brought you to hospital and tested positive for Chink-Flu? OMGZ YUU WAZ HOSPITALIZED WIF DA COVIDS111

I am more at this point, so I can answer.

Currently, I am a junior college student who goes out mainly just for school and minimum wage work at this point. I have taken both initial vaccine doses, though am hesitant on a 3rd, not becomes of any fears about my health, but more out of just not caring.

My parents are a bit more into the COVID hysteria. While they seem to question the legitimacy of masks, they are part of the vaccinated are smart and the anti-vax are holding back normalcy mentality. They seem to brush off any issues with the vaccine, such as people still catching COVID-19, as normal and to be expected. It cannot be 100% right? They are also all in on the anti-vax believe in micro-chips and Qanon media bullshit. To them, COVID seems more like an average media Dems good, Republicans bad narrative prompted by comedians they listen to like Colbert since the 2000s. I feel it has little to do with health a good chunk of time, though they are concerned for omnicron.

Personally, I just comply to be done with it all. I want to finish up my shitty college/high school experiences this next year and leave early. I comply with it at work because I just want to build money to buy a house and take off early 2023. I just tell myself that this will all be over soon, not just in terms of COVID, but in terms of just general life as I want nothing more than to get to the next step. I guess you can say that I do not want to risk anything in finally moving out.

Honestly, I know a few people who are basically just doing things to get out at this point. A lot of them work a ton, and barely go out past school and work as they are just focused on being done with this stage of life.

I just want to finish school, collect money, and stay on good terms with my parents, so rejecting COVID rules would be a pretty major risk for me currently, so I guess I just internalize that everything will be over soon. Is this a sufficient answer?
Replace "COVID" with "anti-semitic" and see how you feel about "just following your orders".
 
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new talking points dropped. Now folks refusing the vax are terrorists.
Oh yeah, that's a thing here, too. Our local brand of Coof Sceptics are called "Querdenker", literally "lateral thinkers", and the common talking points are that they are terrorists and murderers because they spread false information about the safety of the vaccine and the severity of the Coof.
"Lateral thinking" used to be a good thing, and now it's a grave insult. Only orthodox thinking is allowed.
I met quite a few people who refuse to do any critical thinking about this stuff anymore, because they have been completely instilled with fear of being wrong and accidentally saying wrongthink. Only approved experts are allowed to say things, and they are also allowed to constantly change their minds and contradict themselves on a weekly basis, because that's SCIENCE. Absolute cargo cult for science. Thanks, sociology.
 
So with plans for the third or even fourth jab going forward to retain one's "fully vaccinated" status, I have to ask what the fuck will be the deal with late adopters in the not too distant future?

So ostensibly the booster is to prop up antibody levels above a certain threshold after so much time has elapsed, so are late adopters expected to vaxxmaxx and shotgun 3 shots back to back to "catch up"? Given the minimum waiting period and the various restrictions in place it could take many months to gain "fully vaccinated" status with this goofy system.
 
Clickbait article titled 'The unvaccinated ask for jabs, but by then it's too late' from BBC that surprised me reading:



Introduction to the article says:

Many Covid patients being admitted to Newcastle's Royal Victoria Infirmary are unvaccinated - and ask to be jabbed when they come in, says one senior nurse. The hospital is treating unprecedented numbers of sick people - with Covid and other conditions - at the start of what hospital bosses say could be the toughest winter in the 73-year history of the health service.

Makes you think it's gonna be one of those 'super healthy person (article shows picture of someone morbidly obese) caught corona and is now begging on their deathbed for the vax' articles, but actually... the most of it talks about non-corona hospitalisations. E.g.

Newcastle's hospitals have seen a sharp rise in numbers of frail and elderly patients - many have missed regular health checks in lockdown. The surgery and treatment backlog caused by the pandemic has made the situation worse.

Doctors also say they are seeing more mental health related issues and alcohol abuse. Tonight a young patient is being operated on after being brought in with self-inflicted stab wounds.

Naturally the bloke who stabbed himself would have been tested for corona and tested positive. Corona hospitalisation case!

But for real, they even have this graph:

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And look at how many people are being treated for corona:

In a room off a main corridor, a young woman is being treated for flu. It is one of the first cases the team has seen this winter. Nearby, is the dedicated Covid respiratory ward where four patients are wearing oxygen masks.

Jenny joined the RVI 17 years ago as a trainee nurse. She has worked as a sister responsible for a Covid ward through most of the pandemic. Her husband is clinically vulnerable and waiting for an organ transplant, so they split the family home in half and kept their distance for months.

"There were a lot of deaths on the Covid wards. So it was emotional, it was draining," she says.

"The adrenaline kept us going for so long and then, as it has eased off, everyone has just flopped. We're burnt out."

Four whole people. Most won't have read this far though, just the title probs.

It then goes on to say:

The number of patients with the virus in the RVI has been falling - down from 70 to 40 in the past month as booster jabs start to make a "massive, massive difference," according to Jenny.

Many of those being admitted are now unvaccinated. They often ask to be given the jab - though by then, it's really too late.

"Hindsight is a wonderful thing," she says.

They just couldn't help themselves, could they?

Staff must stay home for five days if someone in their household tests positive. One of Jenny's colleagues, a specialist nurse, has been off work for a month after her children, and then her partner, were infected, and she tested positive herself.

Gosh, they must be so burnt out, having a month off at a time like that, simply if they or their household merely test positive for corona - no indication that anyone had moderate or severe illness.

Imagine having a whole month off work cos you & your family have a small cold. sounds nice

Last one, highlighting mine:

In an individual room Linda Parkinson, 47, is getting stuck into fish and chips for lunch. She's packing her bags and going home after two weeks in hospital.

"I felt like I was going to die. My asthma has always been under control and this was the first time I've ever been admitted with it," she says. "It was not nice at all. I was trying to gasp for air and had to be put on oxygen."

Doctors say they are seeing more seriously ill patients - like Linda - with more complex needs.

Hmmm.... I'm going to say it's a mixture of reasons. People not looking after themselves very well over the pandemic (sitting on your ass all day and cramming Uber Eats and Just Eat into your face ain't gonna be that good for you), people not going for health checks or treatment or it all getting pushed back due to corona, and I don't doubt at all that the vax is playing a part here. I think we're gonna continue to see this, articles about increases in non-corona hospitalisations. Fab.

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Our local brand of Coof Sceptics are called "Querdenker", literally "lateral thinkers", and the common talking points are that they are terrorists and murderers because they spread false information about the safety of the vaccine and the severity of the Coof.
"Lateral thinking" used to be a good thing, and now it's a grave insult. Only orthodox thinking is allowed.

That is just crazy. Preaching to the choir of course, but really, lateral thinking as an insult? I'm so confused (not really I guess) at how anyone could consider that as a bad thing. This world.
 
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