Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Munchies like to have hEDS because it's a clinical diagnosis that can be faked or even self diagnosed. Troons and munchies have a lot in common when you think about it -- the need for attention and validation, the drive to get unnecessary procedures -- feeding toobs and picc lines for munchies, hormones and genital mutilation for grooms, and a ccomplete resistance to mental health therapy.

This ends in things like Chris-chan and Vampire Kelly. It's slow suicide, but suicide just the same.
You can’t fake a hEDS diagnosis. It involves a physical exam done by a medical professional that involves them stretching your joints and skin out plus looking for other markers like aberrant scars, plus the appropriate medical history. Like I literally don’t know how you’d fake even a HSD diagnosis unless you’re going to let a doctor break every one of your fingers while pretending it doesn’t hurt. If you’re going to fake something for sympathy, just pick chronic fatigue or fibromyalgia.

I know you guys like picking on overdramatic teenage girls but the shit about hEDS that gets spread on here is ridiculous.

hEDS and troonery overlap because one pops up alongside autism a lot and autists are heavily targeted by the trooner groomers.

Transbucket user Gaga236 [previous update here] was very unsatisfied with her original RFF phalloplasty, so she went in for a re-do (an MLD phalloplasty this time) with a different surgeon.

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Nice elephant trunk, "bro"! :lol:
Holy shit it’s Clark Kent’s penis!

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Transbucket user Gaga236 [previous update here] was very unsatisfied with her original RFF phalloplasty, so she went in for a re-do (an MLD phalloplasty this time) with a different surgeon.

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Nice elephant trunk, "bro"! :lol:
I've heard phalloplasty be jokingly referred to as a "sausage roll", but she's really committed to the part.

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Transbucket user Gaga236 [previous update here] was very unsatisfied with her original RFF phalloplasty, so she went in for a re-do (an MLD phalloplasty this time) with a different surgeon.

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Nice elephant trunk, "bro"! :lol:

He really despises the first surgeon he went to - Dr. Daverio.
Which is reasonable, since Dr. Paul Daverio is an infamous German surgeon who's been butchering women since 1995 and offers to do truly insane stuff that no one else will do. Like his "all-in-one" Frau-zu-Mann surgery where he'll do a double mastectomy + hysterectomy + phalloplasty + vaginectomy + urethral lengthening + nerve hookup... all in a single surgery.
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Unrelated to the above, but Dr. Deschamps-Braly (the FFS surgeon we were discussing earlier) uploaded what he calls a "short documentary" to his youtube channel. It's actually just a 10-minute advertisement glorifying himself, lol.
wow Did you guys know he studied under famous surgeons in France and Switzerland?? ~so fancy~ wow

Someone posted it to reddit, but I don't think they got the reception they were expecting...
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Sock puppet dick looking ass. Alien queen tongue looking ass. Very small shark going "a" looking ass.
 
There are different types and we don't know which type he has, but at least some types can cause fuckups during surgery. Look at what happened to this poor guy who just got a colonoscopy:


Vascular/Type IV EDS is the one that's most likely to make you drop dead (seriously, people just drop dead in young adulthood or middle age of massive hemorrhages, it's a shitty genetic hand to be dealt) and it has the strongest recommendations against doing any non-necessary surgery. I want to tell myself that he doesn't have that type, simply because people keep operating on him. Then again, there was a guy in this thread who had Marfan syndrome and a missing bladder and his surgeon still agreed to do SRS on him, so who the hell knows.


"I don't know anything about it but rather than spending 30 seconds reading a few paragraphs, I have decided to tell everyone it's a useless diagnosis before wiping drool off my keyboard"


If you have missed my repetitive sperging in this thread: it is often comorbid with autism. Enough said, really.
My spergy two cent theory: Ehlers Danlos famously causes poor coordination/proprioception/sense of location of self (Funny shit to do if you have a friend with Ehlers Danlos and a good sense of humour is to ask them to close their eyes and touch their nose or ear, and watch them repeatedly poke themselves in the eye. Or to close their eyes and drink from a pint glass, to see them pour beer down their shirt).

And as you say, comorbid with autism.

So take someone with a really vague sense of their own body which will feel too big/small/wrong because of bad nervous system stuff to do with dodgy collagen, add in the tism for social weirdness... Of course they all feel like their body needs rearranged to fit better, and then gender is the most convenient narrative.
 
"I don't know anything about it but rather than spending 30 seconds reading a few paragraphs, I have decided to tell everyone it's a useless diagnosis before wiping drool off my keyboard"

Or you could have taken 15 seconds to read my post carefully and discover that I wasn't telling anyone anything about it, but speculating based on the fact that a huge number of troons claim to have it.
 
There are different types and we don't know which type he has, but at least some types can cause fuckups during surgery. Look at what happened to this poor guy who just got a colonoscopy:


Vascular/Type IV EDS is the one that's most likely to make you drop dead (seriously, people just drop dead in young adulthood or middle age of massive hemorrhages, it's a shitty genetic hand to be dealt) and it has the strongest recommendations against doing any non-necessary surgery. I want to tell myself that he doesn't have that type, simply because people keep operating on him. Then again, there was a guy in this thread who had Marfan syndrome and a missing bladder and his surgeon still agreed to do SRS on him, so who the hell knows.


"I don't know anything about it but rather than spending 30 seconds reading a few paragraphs, I have decided to tell everyone it's a useless diagnosis before wiping drool off my keyboard"


If you have missed my repetitive sperging in this thread: it is often comorbid with autism. Enough said, really.
The real one to watch, will be the cancer cases in the next few decades.


all that scar tissue, in an area rife with potential for complication anyway.- symptomatically, hard to discern early enough from all the other horror likely to be going on once these wounds get geriatric;
any troon that gets the chop and doesnt 41%, 99% gonna get horrible cavern cancer, calling it now.

I will likely be long dead and so happily wont see it but....if you think the pictures we see on here are bad now..my god, can you imagine a few decades and explosion of cormorbidities hence..
 
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The real one to watch, will be the cancer cases in the next few decades.


all that scar tissue, in an area rife with potential for complication anyway.- hard to discern from all the other horror likely to be going on once these wounds get geriatric,
any troon that gets the chop and doesnt 41%, 99% gonna get horrible cavern cancer, calling it now.
I will likely be long dead and so happily wont see it but....if you think the pictures we see on here are bad now..my god, can you imagine a few decades and explosion of cormorbidities hence..
Fortunately the ones who don't 41% either succumb to the side effects from the hormones they bloat themselves with or any other metabolic illness like hypertension or diabetes; or any other diseases given their deplorable lifestyles and dietary choices.

And since they luckily nixed their chances to reproduce there aren't unlucky babies to inherit their ripe cancerous genes... yet.
 
How are they possibly going to lower it when it’s 1.5 inches from the bellybutton? You can’t just add tissue without Frankensteining it (which is probably the plan). So much for anything beyond high rise pants.
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that's the reasonable pedicle decision, taking skin and tissue from nearby and slowly moving it, instead of yanking off half an arm and hoping for the best.
 
Transbucket user Gaga236 [previous update here] was very unsatisfied with her original RFF phalloplasty, so she went in for a re-do (an MLD phalloplasty this time) with a different surgeon.

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Nice elephant trunk, "bro"! :lol:

He really despises the first surgeon he went to - Dr. Daverio.
Which is reasonable, since Dr. Paul Daverio is an infamous German surgeon who's been butchering women since 1995 and offers to do truly insane stuff that no one else will do. Like his "all-in-one" Frau-zu-Mann surgery where he'll do a double mastectomy + hysterectomy + phalloplasty + vaginectomy + urethral lengthening + nerve hookup... all in a single surgery.
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Unrelated to the above, but Dr. Deschamps-Braly (the FFS surgeon we were discussing earlier) uploaded what he calls a "short documentary" to his youtube channel. It's actually just a 10-minute advertisement glorifying himself, lol.
wow Did you guys know he studied under famous surgeons in France and Switzerland?? ~so fancy~ wow

Someone posted it to reddit, but I don't think they got the reception they were expecting...
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At least he's got a nice body. She can say her dick was blown off by a jealous ex and later reconstructed.
 
Dr. Curtis Cetrulo seems legit, or at least not like a typical SRS butcher. He got a lot of press after performing a successful penis transplant (on a soldier injured by an IED) in 2016 - the first in the United States. I don't know if that necessarily correlates to being a successful phalloplasty surgeon for FTMs, but I guess we'll find out.

One thing I do find strange is that information on his 5-stage "delayed abdominal" phalloplasty is difficult to find. There's no website explaining it, and apparently only 2-3 FTMs have actually completed all the stages since it's fairly new - no finished pictures floating around, sadly. Xeroform22 (the girl posted above) seems to be the person furthest along in the process who has actually shared any information. All the other Cetrulo patients I've seen are still on stage 1 or 2.

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I'm also curious about the whole "repositioning" part. Guess we'll see what it looks like when Xeroform22 gets the next stage done in 2-3 months.
 
Dr. Curtis Cetrulo seems legit, or at least not like a typical SRS butcher. He got a lot of press after performing a successful penis transplant (on a soldier injured by an IED) in 2016 - the first in the United States. I don't know if that necessarily correlates to being a successful phalloplasty surgeon for FTMs, but I guess we'll find out.

One thing I do find strange is that information on his 5-stage "delayed abdominal" phalloplasty is difficult to find. There's no website explaining it, and apparently only 2-3 FTMs have actually completed all the stages since it's fairly new - no finished pictures floating around, sadly. Xeroform22 (the girl posted above) seems to be the person furthest along in the process who has actually shared any information. All the other Cetrulo patients I've seen are still on stage 1 or 2.

Here are some informative comments:
I'm also curious about the whole "repositioning" part. Guess we'll see what it looks like when Xeroform22 gets the next stage done in 2-3 months.
I would think the repositioning is similar to pedicle flap sculpting, a last surgery done to shape the tissue after the flap is healed.

There's a lot of literature and research on pedicle surgery, this is a more reasonable surgical technique. It's been performed in the west since WWI, and in India for a few hundred years (nose reconstruction).
 
Transbucket user Gaga236 [previous update here] was very unsatisfied with her original RFF phalloplasty, so she went in for a re-do (an MLD phalloplasty this time) with a different surgeon.

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Nice elephant trunk, "bro"! :lol:

He really despises the first surgeon he went to - Dr. Daverio.
Which is reasonable, since Dr. Paul Daverio is an infamous German surgeon who's been butchering women since 1995 and offers to do truly insane stuff that no one else will do. Like his "all-in-one" Frau-zu-Mann surgery where he'll do a double mastectomy + hysterectomy + phalloplasty + vaginectomy + urethral lengthening + nerve hookup... all in a single surgery.
:stress:
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Unrelated to the above, but Dr. Deschamps-Braly (the FFS surgeon we were discussing earlier) uploaded what he calls a "short documentary" to his youtube channel. It's actually just a 10-minute advertisement glorifying himself, lol.
wow Did you guys know he studied under famous surgeons in France and Switzerland?? ~so fancy~ wow

Someone posted it to reddit, but I don't think they got the reception they were expecting...
Top comment:
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I am offended on behalf of Dr. Daverio that she considers this freakish not-even-close-to-looking-like-a-dick monstrosity an improvement by any means. Someone should tell her that bellends aren't usually M-shaped.
 
How are they possibly going to lower it when it’s 1.5 inches from the bellybutton? You can’t just add tissue without Frankensteining it (which is probably the plan). So much for anything beyond high rise pants.
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LMAO it's lopsided and her stubby fatgirl hands aren't fooling anyone into thinking she's anything but a gremlin.

Met an ftm troon today who was poisoning herself with testosterone. Yeah I can say 100% don't pass and everyone else is humoring you with pronouns because they're afraid you're going to kill yourself otherwise.
 
LMAO it's lopsided and her stubby fatgirl hands aren't fooling anyone into thinking she's anything but a gremlin.

Met an ftm troon today who was poisoning herself with testosterone. Yeah I can say 100% don't pass and everyone else is humoring you with pronouns because they're afraid you're going to kill yourself otherwise.

Hips and waist are also weird and not masculine at all. She may pass with proper clothing (body wise, Idk about the face) but never in underwear or tight fitting shirts.
 
So Cetrulo has actually published a shit ton and has a lot of experience in microsurgery and reconstructive surgery. Which is way more impressive than what we've seen from the other butchers featured.

I'm trying to find more info on his phalloplasty method. If I find it I'll paste it here. I only found stuff on his other surgeries, but I put my explanation under the spoiler.

So, unfortunately, Cetrulo hasn't published about phalloplasty specifically. This makes me wonder if he will publish about these first few patients.
Based on his existing and most recent publications though, he has done a lot of work with flap reconstruction. Much of his work was for burns and other skin loss. His experience with this means that his patients are more likely to have reennervation and blood flow to the skin used for the neophallus. Which means, unlike some others we've seen, a better outcome healthwise, as it will heal better. This is better for preventing dehiscence and necrotization.
For what it is, that neophallus doesn't look that bad. Minus the disgusting hair. We've definitely seen much worse. And at least this patient doesnt have the horrifying leg or arm scars.

I can only guess at his methodology. But he relies on two common and successful surgical procedures - abdominoplasty and the pedicle flap.

It sounds like the first step is vaginectomy only. A pretty serious surgery that makes sense to do alone.

The second step is then the abdominoplasty and construction of the pedicle. During this surgery it seems like he does a partial abdominoplasty, but instead of removing the skin and fat he uses it to create the neophallus. This is why it's so high - it's meant to stay attached so that it can maintain blood flow and sensation, which makes healing much easier. She said no hair removal, which scared me because of those disgusting urethral hairs we've seen... But then I realized that he doesn't create the urethra at this stage.

Then he does the first stage scrotoplasty and urethral lengthening through the meta. I imagine he works with a urologist on the UL and probably uses a buccal graft. I only think that because his techniques are better in every area (and 🌈). I imagine the scrotoplasty addresses any aesthetic things left from the vaginoplasty, and moves the labia into the optimal position.

Then, he performs a second skin removal in the abdomen/pannus area, in which he will stretch the skin down and across to position the neophallus. This should put it in the correct position. From here he would extend the urethral length through the neophallus and attach the nerves from the genitourinary area, burying the meta.

Then finally he would do the second stage scrotoplasty which would improve size and appearance, and probably use testicular implants.
Her weird hips are just how the fat and tissue looks after the abdominoplasty. This happens often and is corrected with Lipo. Ideally he would use a laser or ultrasound assisted method to sculpt the fat into a more masculine shape, and add emphasis to the abdominal muscles. He might also probably lipo or sculpt the phallus more to make it look better.

If for some reason the phallus is still too high, there are smaller procedures that can be done quite easily to lower it (like those in my previous post about penis lengthening).

This should have a better outcome. While it will not look real, at least it will be healthier in the long run. Function is another story, but I would assume better urinary outcome at least.

From an experimental point of view, this how we would ideally develop an actually good/reponsible method for ftm phalloplasty. This is not considering other issues they have mentally or the physical effects of medications and hormones, which can cause their own problems as we know.

Sounds like his patient xeroform had the third stage on the 24th of November? Hoping she posts info and pics on that soon.

Here are some of his publications.
Bioengineered skin flap scaffolding
Nerve regeneration
Penis transplantation
Vascularized Allografts
Hip flap gluteoplasty

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I am offended on behalf of Dr. Daverio that she considers this freakish not-even-close-to-looking-like-a-dick monstrosity an improvement by any means. Someone should tell her that bellends aren't usually M-shaped.
It's like she tried to give her psuedo-penis phimosis.
Also, place your bets that the only reason she considers it to be an improvement is because it's bigger. FtMs seem to always be size queens when it comes to their fake dicks for some reason.
 
Transbucket user Gaga236 [previous update here] was very unsatisfied with her original RFF phalloplasty, so she went in for a re-do (an MLD phalloplasty this time) with a different surgeon.

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Nice elephant trunk, "bro"! :lol:

He really despises the first surgeon he went to - Dr. Daverio.
Which is reasonable, since Dr. Paul Daverio is an infamous German surgeon who's been butchering women since 1995 and offers to do truly insane stuff that no one else will do. Like his "all-in-one" Frau-zu-Mann surgery where he'll do a double mastectomy + hysterectomy + phalloplasty + vaginectomy + urethral lengthening + nerve hookup... all in a single surgery.
:stress:
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Unrelated to the above, but Dr. Deschamps-Braly (the FFS surgeon we were discussing earlier) uploaded what he calls a "short documentary" to his youtube channel. It's actually just a 10-minute advertisement glorifying himself, lol.
wow Did you guys know he studied under famous surgeons in France and Switzerland?? ~so fancy~ wow

Someone posted it to reddit, but I don't think they got the reception they were expecting...
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lol it looks like a goddamn disaster either way.

Well buckle up buddy, because they lied to you. You won't be cumming ever again, and every single person in your "safe space" was telling one gigantic horrific web of lies.

And the resulting appropriation of women’s struggles:
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"It gets better"
Keep telling yourselves that.
Just like you keep telling yourselves your taint wound is totally a vagina.
 
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