Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Nobue]

It's not 100% effective at stopping the virus from spreading. I never said it was. However, it does help slow and prevent the spread and every bit does help.

Especially when the only argument against it is pretty stupid since all of the side effects from it are far more frequent from covid itself than the vaccine

How common are they compared to marijuana and video game side effects? Or pandemic stress side effects? Or climate change side effects? We'd be less skeptical if the same people pushing it didn't have to keep assuring us COVID and everything else is more dangerous.

 

[Psychotron]

I don't know why, and full disclose I'm vax'd and boosted. I don't advocate that you should be .
But this distro of answers is gr8.

Like if you where some up and coming social scientist, this is an intrestin' problem 2 chomp on.

 

[Neurotypical Mantis]

i am
i don't want boosters, i already have to get a needle stuck in me twice a week anyway. and I've been fine without them so far
immediately after my second shot i felt like total ass and nearly fainted though. so fuck that

 

[glow]

I'm vaxed, picked up the coof anyway. One of my friends picked it up at the same event. He's one of those people who is a normal dude until he has a few beers and starts complaining about new world order lizard people type shit. It wouldn't surprise me if he posted here come to think of it.

Anyway a week later I was fully recovered and he's still got fatigue, brain fog, cough, all that shit, and still won't shut up about the fucking Rothschilds. A few weeks later it's continuing for him and hopefully won't turn into something longer. He also agrees that he should have had the vaccine so I feel like he's learned something here.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

If the vaccines were actually stopping mutations in this case, the global hotspots wouldn't be the most heavily vaccinated. As for it mutating, it's unlikely to become more deadly, even if the vaccines stop working against it. That's how these things work. Even an ignorant person like myself understands that.

South Africa isn't that heavily vaccinated, in fact, it's pretty low. And mutations happen randomly, so the more people that have it, the more chances it has to mutate. It could mutate to be more deadly, although I do agree that is less likely and it will more likely mutate to be less deadly. But with covid being contagious for a while before symptoms show, it won't necessarily mutate to be less deadly.

People aren't recommended every vaccine, but 99% of doctors are pushing everybody to get one in this case? They're still being incentivized, and if your claims are right, they're doing enough for it to add up. We're talking about the group that did this sort of thing and created the opioid crisis, and who are some of the biggest tax cheats, so them pulling this isn't unthinkable.

I literally explained to you how doctors make more money if people don't get vaccinated. My god you're dense.

Remember how COVID cases skyrocketed once the Feds started paying for them?

Again, I know you're inept at logic, but cases skyrocketed because that was when the pandemic started.

Considering hospitalizations are surging...in the most vaccinated areas, those actuaries made the wrong call here.

They're skyrocketing among people who aren't vaccinated. I know that your boomer FB memes said otherwise, but according to the actual stats from the CDC, it's the vaccinated people who are not being hospitalized nearly as often. Again, I know you know more than the CDC about this, so you won't believe it, but you might want to listen to them over your Bitchute videos. Covid deaths and hospitalizations are quite a bit higher in areas where people are GOP simps like yourself

How common are they compared to marijuana and video game side effects? Or pandemic stress side effects? Or climate change side effects? We'd be less skeptical if the same people pushing it didn't have to keep assuring us COVID and everything else is more dangerous.

Jesus christ you're a spaz dude. Again, I know you're inept at logic and stats, but the vaccine side effects (which you say are super duper deadly) are far less likely than the same effects from covid, which you are totally not afraid of. Your logic here is legitimately Chris Chan level at how awful it is. So I guess you're now saying that covid is super duper deadly for everyone, again, using your own logic. I thought you said us people who are vaccinated were scared? Even I don't say covid is super duper deadly for most people

 

[Nobue]

South Africa isn't that heavily vaccinated, in fact, it's pretty low. And mutations happen randomly, so the more people that have it, the more chances it has to mutate. It could mutate to be more deadly, although I do agree that is less likely and it will more likely mutate to be less deadly. But with covid being contagious for a while before symptoms show, it won't necessarily mutate to be less deadly.


I literally explained to you how doctors make more money if people don't get vaccinated. My god you're dense.


Again, I know you're inept at logic, but cases skyrocketed because that was when the pandemic started.

They're skyrocketing among people who aren't vaccinated. I know that your boomer FB memes said otherwise, but according to the actual stats from the CDC, it's the vaccinated people who are not being hospitalized nearly as often. Again, I know you know more than the CDC about this, so you won't believe it, but you might want to listen to them over your Bitchute videos.


Jesus christ you're a spaz dude. Again, I know you're inept at logic and stats, but the vaccine side effects (which you say are super duper deadly) are far less likely than the same effects from covid, which you are totally not afraid of. Your logic here is legitimately Chris Chan level at how awful it is. So I guess you're now saying that covid is super duper deadly for everyone, again, using your own logic. I thought you said us people who are vaccinated were scared? Even I don't say covid is super duper deadly for most people

Not all doctors deal with emergency room patients. You understand that, correct? Or are you one of those people who treats the ER like a doc-in-the-box?

The vaccines clearly aren't doing a lot either, so they'd be getting money either way. Remember, most people don't get seriously ill from COVID. They can pump people who'd never wind up in the ER because of COVID full of vaccines forever.

Hospitals also stopped or slowed other services during COVID, too. They can get that money AND the vaccine money.

The fact that it's contagious is a good thing--if it was killing its hosts, it would die out pretty quickly.

The same CDC that decided testing patients who claimed to be vaccinated for COVID was unnecessary?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Not all doctors deal with emergency room patients. You understand that, correct? Or are you one of those people who treats the ER like a doc-in-the-box?

Correct but the ones pushing the vaccine would still see them in clinic. A clinic visit around here is usually $800-$1000. They ain't cheap, son.

The vaccines clearly aren't doing a lot either, so they'd be getting money either way. Remember, most people don't get seriously ill from COVID. They can pump people who'd never wind up in the ER because of COVID full of vaccines forever.

They sure are doing a lot. They do very well at preventing hospitalization and death. The ones dying and being hospitalized by covid are your fellow anti-vax boomers. There's a reason the counties with a high vaccination rate have a lot lower percentage of covid hospitalizations and the ones that have more hospitalizations and death are your fellow GOP simps.

Hospitals also stopped or slowed other services during COVID, too. They can get that money AND the vaccine money.

Oh, I forgot about that. That also adds to my point. Hospitals make a fuckton MORE money from other services than they do covid. So yes, they want their patients to get vaccinated so they won't be overflowing with anti-vax tards like yourself so they can get back to those other services.

So you think doctors and hospitals are super duper greedy, but then you also think they're only pushing vaccines for $40 and not the massive more amount they get from covid patients and the much more massive amount they get from other services. Youre seriously showing your ineptitude at logic here, son.

The fact that it's contagious is a good thing--if it was killing its hosts, it would die out pretty quickly.

Again, that doesn't really apply here because it's contagious before symptoms show. Again, I know you're inept at logic and biology, but when something is contagious before showing symptoms, it doesn't really matter how deadly it is from an evolutionary perspective.

The same CDC that decided testing patients who claimed to be vaccinated for COVID was unnecessary?

They did? When did they do that? Also, again, I know your simpleton brain is completely overwhelmed when it comes to science, but with a novel virus, scientists and the CDC and WHO are going to change their stances as new data comes in. I know you're a good little GOP boomer and Trump told you cultists that is a sign of weakness, but in reality, it's a sign of intelligence (which again helps prove you're a serious mental retard)

 

[Nobue]

Correct but the ones pushing the vaccine would still see them in clinic. A clinic visit around here is usually $800-$1000. They ain't cheap, son.


They sure are doing a lot. They do very well at preventing hospitalization and death. The ones dying and being hospitalized by covid are your fellow anti-vax boomers. There's a reason the counties with a high vaccination rate have a lot lower percentage of covid hospitalizations and the ones that have more hospitalizations and death are your fellow GOP simps.


Oh, I forgot about that. That also adds to my point. Hospitals make a fuckton MORE money from other services than they do covid. So yes, they want their patients to get vaccinated so they won't be overflowing with anti-vax tards like yourself so they can get back to those other services.

So you think doctors and hospitals are super duper greedy, but then you also think they're only pushing vaccines for $40 and not the massive more amount they get from covid patients and the much more massive amount they get from other services. Youre seriously showing your ineptitude at logic here, son.


Again, that doesn't really apply here because it's contagious before symptoms show. Again, I know you're inept at logic and biology, but when something is contagious before showing symptoms, it doesn't really matter how deadly it is from an evolutionary perspective.


They did? When did they do that? Also, again, I know your simpleton brain is completely overwhelmed when it comes to science, but with a novel virus, scientists and the CDC and WHO are going to change their stances as new data comes in. I know you're a good little GOP boomer and Trump told you cultists that is a sign of weakness, but in reality, it's a sign of intelligence (which again helps prove you're a serious mental retard)

Refugees lack COVID shots because drugmakers fear lawsuits - documents

Tens of millions of migrants may be denied COVID-19 vaccines from a global programme because some major manufacturers are worried about legal risks from harmful side effects, according to officials and internal documents from Gavi, the charity operating the programme, reviewed by Reuters.

www.reuters.com

Hey, the experts have no faith in the own products. Gee whiz.

Don't know where you are, but I never spent that much back when I had no insurance. Again--most people have very mild symptoms, and do not have to have much medical treatment, I'd any. You can get a little money from everyone, or a lot from a smaller number of people. It's why tthe bestsellers are always on sale at the bookstore--they make less money on each one, but they make more by selling cheaper products to more people. Same with drugs--the cartels make most of their money off of marijuana that's cheap, and charge more for more niche products like heroin.

Dude, why did the CDC change their standards so that vaccinated patients might not be counted as sick with COVID? Why did they keep changing PCR testing standards as it became convenient? It's not THAT they're changing things--it's that they keep changing at convenient times. Again, you are wilfully(?) ignoring context when it suits you.

Hospitals wouldn't be able to keep the con going, even if they kept saying everybody kept dying with COVID, since people would eventually stop getting sick. With the vaccines, they'll have money coming in steadily from vaccines and kickbacks, possibly for decades.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Refugees lack COVID shots because drugmakers fear lawsuits - documents

Tens of millions of migrants may be denied COVID-19 vaccines from a global programme because some major manufacturers are worried about legal risks from harmful side effects, according to officials and internal documents from Gavi, the charity operating the programme, reviewed by Reuters.

www.reuters.com

Hey, the experts have no faith in the own products. Gee whiz.

Is that seriously your whole argument against vaccines?

Again, I know you are completely inept at following logic and context. However, for society's benefit, it's better that people get vaccinated (I know you hate society since you're a shut in, but bear with me now). Vaccine manufacturers don't make very much money from vaccines compared to other products, so the government said, "You know, we like vaccines because it keeps our population happy. We know vaccines are not that profitable for you guys, but we want you to keep making them, so we will remove your liability for them so that anti-vax retards like @Nobue don't sue you in frivolous lawsuits.". Also, because of anti-vax spazes like you, you retards would probably be filing all sorts of frivolous lawsuits against the vaccine manufacturers. So congrats, it's anti-vax spazes like you who are part of the reason why they aren't liable.

Don't know where you are, but I never spent that much back when I had no insurance. Again--most people have very mild symptoms, and do not have to have much medical treatment, I'd any. You can get a little money from everyone, or a lot from a smaller number of people. It's why tthe bestsellers are always on sale at the bookstore--they make less money on each one, but they make more by selling cheaper products to more people. Same with drugs--the cartels make most of their money off of marijuana that's cheap, and charge more for more niche products like heroin.

Again, you are moving the goal posts when I destroy your claim, and I am going to destroy your claim again.

You claim 99% of doctors and scientists are corrupt. The vaccine is very good at preventing covid hospitalizations. That means that the doctors pushing the vaccine, which would typically be PCPs that work in a clinic, are getting a whopping $40 per vaccine from insurance (lol that you think this is a lot of money when it comes to healthcare, again, showing how naive your spaztic brain is). However, hospitalizations going down from those vaccinated would be costing the hospitals and infectious disease and nephrologists and pulmonologists, who would get a fuckton of money from hospitalizations from those who are not vaccinated. So why wouldn't those doctors be coming forward about how super duper dangerous these vaccines are?

Again, I have completely fucked your claim in the ass and now you'll move the goalposts again because that's how your diseased brain handles being humiliated.

Dude, why did the CDC change their standards so that vaccinated patients might not be counted as sick with COVID? Why did they keep changing PCR testing standards as it became convenient? It's not THAT they're changing things--it's that they keep changing at convenient times. Again, you are wilfully(?) ignoring context when it suits you.

Did it ever occur to you that they changed their stances as new data comes in? Again, I know your brain doesn't function well and you memory is very, very short, but the original PCR tests were awful with tons of inaccuracies. In fact, you covid retards used to say that was proof of the conspiracy. So, the CDC made the standards for them more accurate. Now them changing the PCR tests to be more accurate is part of the conspiracy? Seriously, seek mental help

Again, I know you are completely detached from reality from reading too many boomer memes and watching too much Tucker Carlson, but that's the reality of the situation.

Hospitals wouldn't be able to keep the con going, even if they kept saying everybody kept dying with COVID, since people would eventually stop getting sick. With the vaccines, they'll have money coming in steadily from vaccines and kickbacks, possibly for decades.

You are seriously mentally handicapped if you think a hospital is making good money from covid vaccines. Like, you are beyond mentally retarded. You should seriously seek mental help.

Let's take a hypothetical city, let's say 100,000 people. This city would probably have 2 hospitals in it, maybe 3. Let's go with 2. If everyone in that city gets vaccinated at $40 a pop, that is a total of $4,000,000 between the hospitals (before costs of the vaccine and the cost to administer it, but we will ignore that). That means that between the hospitals, they'd make $2,000,000 each. Now, again, I know you are a shut in who doesn't know how healthcare works, but $2 million to a hospital is chicken feed. They make way, way, way more than that from surgeries and other hospital stays, which are down because of covid. So the hospitals want people to get vaccinated, not only because they save lives, but because it then frees up the hospital to perform their regular services, which makes them a lot more money.

 

[Nobue]

@Hollywood Hulk Hogan

How would we "antivaxxers" sue over a vaccine we didn't take?

Describe specifically how I'm moving the goalposts. I get the feeling you just throw that accusation around the moment an argument isn't a black and white as you'd like.

So, they figured out how to make them more accurate first right before the Inauguration, and then again (but only for the vaccinated) as soon as their big push for vaccines started? Again, you're failing to understand how important context is.

I'm not sure what your hospital argument is. I said they could make money pushing vaccines AND doing what they normally did before, and your response is...they did exactly that. Calling everything COVID wasn't going to work forever, either. They'd have to transition away from their Federal sniffle money.

Also, you might want to look up how much money the pharmaceutical companies have been making off of this. They're making a killing.

Covid vaccine profits mint 9 new pharma billionaires

Covid-19 vaccines have created at least nine new billionaires after shares in companies producing the shots soared.

www.cnn.com

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

@Hollywood Hulk Hogan

How would we "antivaxxers" sue over a vaccine we didn't take?

You could take one for the team and take it and then just sue and make shit up. Or you could be an anti-vaxer after you were already vaccinated and then sue.

Describe specifically how I'm moving the goalposts. I get the feeling you just throw that accusation around the moment an argument isn't a black and white as you'd like.

So, they figured out how to make them more accurate first right before the Inauguration, and then again (but only for the vaccinated) as soon as their big push for vaccines started? Again, you're failing to understand how important context is.

Yes? Again, science changes. I know you hate science and scientists and education, but technology and our understanding of science evolves. It's really not a hard concept, even for a mong like you.

And you are moving the goal posts because as soon as I thoroughly destroy your claim, you then bring up another claim which I then destroy, and then you bring up another, repeat. And then you pretend I never destroyed your point by either refusing to answer a question (and claim it's an "anti-question" when I completely fuck your point in the ass using your own retarded logic) or just completely not acknowledging my destruction of your claim and you keep repeating it.

I'm not sure what your hospital argument is. I said they could make money pushing vaccines AND doing what they normally did before, and your response is...they did exactly that. Calling everything COVID wasn't going to work forever, either. They'd have to transition away from their Federal sniffle money.

Wow.... you really a tard. You completely missed what I was saying, even after I completely described it for you.

$2 million for a hospital is seriously chump change. They wipe their ass with $2 million. Covid patients overtaking hospitals are killing hospital revenue because they're stopping the hospital from performing their usual services, like elective surgeries (elective isn't what you probably think, but that's what theyre called) where they make a fuckton more money. Hospitals don't want covid patients. Covid patients aren't nearly as profitable. They want people vaccinated because vaccines work and prevent hospitalizations.

And again, people being vaccinated against covid are wrecking the revenue for pulmonologists and such who would treat severe covid. Why aren't they coming forward with info about how the vaccine is super duper ultra dangerous? They'd have zero reason to lie.

Like I said, covid vaccines work and that is why hospitals are pushing them. They make less money off covid than they do from other stuff. Again, I know you are incredible slow and just don't understand things even when I explain them thoroughly to you, but you can get this.

Also, you might want to look up how much money the pharmaceutical companies have been making off of this. They're making a killing.

Covid vaccine profits mint 9 new pharma billionaires

Covid-19 vaccines have created at least nine new billionaires after shares in companies producing the shots soared.

www.cnn.com

I never said vaccine manufacturers don't make money from vaccines. They do, although in a normal year they make way more from other drugs. This year because so many vaccine doses were given out, they probably did make most from vaccines, but again, that doesn't mean every hospital is going to go along with it because hospitals don't make shit from giving out vaccines.

Again, I know your have crippling autism rotting your brain, but context is important. In a normal year, i.e. not the year that this vaccine was rolled out, they will usually make more money from things like viagra and other things like that.


So according to your logic, hospitals are:
1. Pushing the vaccine for money, which as I have explained to you doesn't make them much money at all
2. Know the vaccine is super duper dangerous, and somehow has 99% of the world's doctors and scientists able to shut up about it, so much to the point where they are knowingly killing their own families with it
3. Super duper greedy and only want money (which isn't completely untrue), but are pushing the (according to you) useless vaccine, which if useless would actually cost them money by decreasing their revenue from other services

Seriously, how the hell are you a programmer? Like, legitimately, what the fuck do you program? Your logic skills are seriously worse than Chris Chans, which says a lot because he's a mong but somehow you're an even bigger tard than he is

 

[Nobue]

You could take one for the team and take it and then just sue and make shit up. Or you could be an anti-vaxer after you were already vaccinated and then sue.


Yes? Again, science changes. I know you hate science and scientists and education, but technology and our understanding of science evolves. It's really not a hard concept, even for a mong like you.

And you are moving the goal posts because as soon as I thoroughly destroy your claim, you then bring up another claim which I then destroy, and then you bring up another, repeat. And then you pretend I never destroyed your point by either refusing to answer a question (and claim it's an "anti-question" when I completely fuck your point in the ass using your own retarded logic) or just completely not acknowledging my destruction of your claim and you keep repeating it.


Wow.... you really a tard. You completely missed what I was saying, even after I completely described it for you.

$2 million for a hospital is seriously chump change. They wipe their ass with $2 million. Covid patients overtaking hospitals are killing hospital revenue because they're stopping the hospital from performing their usual services, like elective surgeries (elective isn't what you probably think, but that's what theyre called) where they make a fuckton more money. Hospitals don't want covid patients. Covid patients aren't nearly as profitable. They want people vaccinated because vaccines work and prevent hospitalizations.

And again, people being vaccinated against covid are wrecking the revenue for pulmonologists and such who would treat severe covid. Why aren't they coming forward with info about how the vaccine is super duper ultra dangerous? They'd have zero reason to lie.

Like I said, covid vaccines work and that is why hospitals are pushing them. They make less money off covid than they do from other stuff. Again, I know you are incredible slow and just don't understand things even when I explain them thoroughly to you, but you can get this.


I never said vaccine manufacturers don't make money from vaccines. They do, although in a normal year they make way more from other drugs. This year because so many vaccine doses were given out, they probably did make most from vaccines, but again, that doesn't mean every hospital is going to go along with it because hospitals don't make shit from giving out vaccines.

Again, I know your have crippling autism rotting your brain, but context is important. In a normal year, i.e. not the year that this vaccine was rolled out, they will usually make more money from things like viagra and other things like that.


So according to your logic, hospitals are:
1. Pushing the vaccine for money, which as I have explained to you doesn't make them much money at all
2. Know the vaccine is super duper dangerous, and somehow has 99% of the world's doctors and scientists able to shut up about it, so much to the point where they are knowingly killing their own families with it
3. Super duper greedy and only want money (which isn't completely untrue), but are pushing the (according to you) useless vaccine, which if useless would actually cost them money by decreasing their revenue from other services

Seriously, how the hell are you a programmer? Like, legitimately, what the fuck do you program? Your logic skills are seriously worse than Chris Chans, which says a lot because he's a mong but somehow you're an even bigger tard than he is

How could I make shit up of it actually made me sick? Besides, if someone gets sick from the vaccine, not letting them sue would create an antivaxxer (real or what you call one), and discourage people from future vaccines. If you people just left us alone, it wouldn't be a serious concern, especially considering how many people go back for more of this after getting sick or losing a family member.

Science that changes only when it's convenient probably isn't science.

Why would a pulmonologist come out against the vaccines experts lose their jobs for criticizing? Don't say they would because they're millionaires-- they have more expenses than most people, and even a million won't last a lifetime. They also dedicated over a decade of their lives to preparing for their career, and don't want to lose it. Especially if they still haven't paid off their costs from school.

Lots of business sell products that don't make huge amounts of money, but provide a steady, guaranteed source of income. The push for regular boosters, possibly multiple ones a year, is getting bigger, and they'd be guaranteed a never-ending income source from a captive customer base that will be starved if they refuse.

The hospitals can't keep the original con going, so they have a way to still make a little money while doing what they did before. It's thinking long-term.

If COVID vaccines worked, there wouldn't be manipulation of the numbers of sick and hospitalized vaccinated patients. You guys also wouldn't be getting slammed with Omicron and spreading it like you are, a few shots in.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

@Nobue (wont let me quote your post)

How could I make shit up of it actually made me sick? Besides, if someone gets sick from the vaccine, not letting them sue would create an antivaxxer (real or what you call one), and discourage people from future vaccines. If you people just left us alone, it wouldn't be a serious concern, especially considering how many people go back for more of this after getting sick or losing a family member.

You do know people can lie and some things are really hard to disprove, right?

Science that changes only when it's convenient probably isn't science.

Science doesn't change, but our understanding of it does. Again, context, dude. I know your crippling autism makes context tough for you but it's really not hard.

Why would a pulmonologist come out against the vaccines experts lose their jobs for criticizing? Don't say they would because they're millionaires-- they have more expenses than most people, and even a million won't last a lifetime. They also dedicated over a decade of their lives to preparing for their career, and don't want to lose it. Especially if they still haven't paid off their costs from school.

Why wouldn't they? The vaccine is preventing hospitalizations and the pulmonologists make money from the hospitalizations from covid. So they'd have zero reason to lie because the vaccine is costing them money. You legitimately think tens of millions of people can be kept silent about this vast conspiracy. I know you're a simpleton who is impressionable and that's why you believe Alex Jones, but seriously, think about it for a minute.

Lots of business sell products that don't make huge amounts of money, but provide a steady, guaranteed source of income. The push for regular boosters, possibly multiple ones a year, is getting bigger, and they'd be guaranteed a never-ending income source from a captive customer base that will be starved if they refuse.

Multiple ones in a year? lol. Seriously, you retards keep saying "FIFTY BOOSTERS!!!" there is currently one. Again, I know you're inept at math, but 1 is pretty easy to count to.

The hospitals can't keep the original con going, so they have a way to still make a little money while doing what they did before. It's thinking long-term.

Again, you didn't even read what I wrote. $2 million or whatever is chump change to a hospital. They make way more than that when it's business as usual (i.e. no covid). Seriously, again, how the fuck are you a programmer? You can't even follow very basic logic.

If COVID vaccines worked, there wouldn't be manipulation of the numbers of sick and hospitalized vaccinated patients. You guys also wouldn't be getting slammed with Omicron and spreading it like you are, a few shots in.

There is no manipulation. I know you're completely inept at understanding how the real world works, but they adjust numbers sometimes when they find new data.
Also, the unvaccinated are spreading omicron around, too. I know you read an article that said some vaccinated people caught it, and you are a simpleton so you took this to mean "only vaccinated people are catching it", but that's not how it works. Don't you claim to be a programmer? How can a programmer be so inept at logic?

Seriously, dude, you're coming off more retarded each post you make. Is it desperation after I have completely destroyed your claims and you're trying to save face? Or are you still tardraging about the neg-rate?

 

[Nobue]

@Nobue (wont let me quote your post)

You do know people can lie and some things are really hard to disprove, right?


Science doesn't change, but our understanding of it does. Again, context, dude. I know your crippling autism makes context tough for you but it's really not hard.


Why wouldn't they? The vaccine is preventing hospitalizations and the pulmonologists make money from the hospitalizations from covid. So they'd have zero reason to lie because the vaccine is costing them money. You legitimately think tens of millions of people can be kept silent about this vast conspiracy. I know you're a simpleton who is impressionable and that's why you believe Alex Jones, but seriously, think about it for a minute.


Multiple ones in a year? lol. Seriously, you retards keep saying "FIFTY BOOSTERS!!!" there is currently one. Again, I know you're inept at math, but 1 is pretty easy to count to.


Again, you didn't even read what I wrote. $2 million or whatever is chump change to a hospital. They make way more than that when it's business as usual (i.e. no covid). Seriously, again, how the fuck are you a programmer? You can't even follow very basic logic.


There is no manipulation. I know you're completely inept at understanding how the real world works, but they adjust numbers sometimes when they find new data.
Also, the unvaccinated are spreading omicron around, too. I know you read an article that said some vaccinated people caught it, and you are a simpleton so you took this to mean "only vaccinated people are catching it", but that's not how it works. Don't you claim to be a programmer? How can a programmer be so inept at logic?

Seriously, dude, you're coming off more retarded each post you make. Is it desperation after I have completely destroyed your claims and you're trying to save face? Or are you still tardraging about the neg-rate?

Most lawsuits fail for a reason. Besides, what if the Science changes and this really did hurt a lot of people, or one of the future shots we're being promised? Why should they be hurt so that some hypothetical crazy person you're talking about can't sue the Science Gods?

You're the one who doesn't know how the real world works--you assume people don't do things they do for the reasons they do, and you even thought the opioid crisis was just experts learning something was a bad idea-- long after they'd have known it.

The pulmonologist would still be making money without COVID--it wouldn't have been a profession otherwise. If they raise too much of a fuss, they won't have a career anymore.

There's already talks of at least yearly shots. Your vax messiah Pfizer has even said it's likely, along with Fauci. Besides, we conspiracy theorists have predicted everything correctly so far, down to early boosters and vaccine-based social credit systems. Maybe you should listen to us.

They just happen to find new data when it's convenient. How many lucky coincidences would it take for you to consider it's not so lucky?

Even the American Heart Association gets "fact-checked" on social media, and others get censored, and the mainstream media ignores the critics when they can, and smears them when they can't. Remember how you brought up Jamaican Jizz Lady when I mentioned that military doctor? There could be plenty of people speaking up, but almost every avenue of spreading info is closed off.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Most lawsuits fail for a reason. Besides, what if the Science changes and this really did hurt a lot of people, or one of the future shots we're being promised? Why should they be hurt so that some hypothetical crazy person you're talking about can't sue the Science Gods?

Again, I know you are a simpleton and can barely read, but you apparently missed the point where I explained that the whole "they can't be held liable" thing happened decades ago.

Look, I know you hate scientists and science and education because your GOP overlords told you to. However, even someone as retarded as you should be able to follow the logic I outlined to you.

You're the one who doesn't know how the real world works--you assume people don't do things they do for the reasons they do, and you even thought the opioid crisis was just experts learning something was a bad idea-- long after they'd have known it.

That's cute coming from the guy who doesn't even know how healthcare reimbursement works and thinks there's a conspiracy involving tens of millions of docs and scientists, who are willingly killing their own families over it, and the only one who figured it out is an uneducated autist simpleton.

The pulmonologist would still be making money without COVID--it wouldn't have been a profession otherwise. If they raise too much of a fuss, they won't have a career anymore.

Right, but they make more money with covid hospitalizations. You say they're all corrupt and only after money, well, now I have proven you wrong yet again, simpleton.

There's already talks of at least yearly shots. Your vax messiah Pfizer has even said it's likely, along with Fauci. Besides, we conspiracy theorists have predicted everything correctly so far, down to early boosters and vaccine-based social credit systems. Maybe you should listen to us.

Oh wow, a yearly booster. So like a flu shot? Again, I know you're inept at math and such, but I've shown you how they make way more money from people not being vaccinated.

They just happen to find new data when it's convenient. How many lucky coincidences would it take for you to consider it's not so lucky?

How was it so convenient then? I know you are madly in love with Donald Trump and want to have sex with him because of your boomer fetish for obese, elderly conmen, but Trump himself told the CDC not to do things to make himself look good. Biden, however, said to give the actual truth.

Even the American Heart Association gets "fact-checked" on social media, and others get censored, and the mainstream media ignores the critics when they can, and smears them when they can't. Remember how you brought up Jamaican Jizz Lady when I mentioned that military doctor? There could be plenty of people speaking up, but almost every avenue of spreading info is closed off.

Lol that's cute you legitimately think tens of millions of docs and scientists are not only keeping silent about this vast conspiracy that only uneducated simpletons like you figured out, but they are willingly and enthusiastically killing their own families over it. All while you cannot find any evidence of these dead bodies from the super duper deadly vaccine. Oh, and this conspiracy is also costing the doctors and hospitals money, but they keep silent over it.

You seriously can't make this shit up Get back on your schizo meds. Or do you just watch too many TV shows? I am guessing that is it, now that I think about it. Your parents are like Chris Chan's parents and decided to put their simpleton spaz kid in front of the TV instead of actually helping him function in life. I suspect that's also why you think you know more about medicine than doctors and medical scientists, despite not even having a college degree and getting your medical info from boomer FB memes.

 

[Abdul Alhazred]

Come on @Hollywood Hulk Hogan you should know this brother! The government and drug companies are hiding these statistics so more people aren’t afraid of getting the vaccine and more people can die from it. It’s practically known at this point they hide the numbers.

Yes actually. People who test positive for COVID but die due to completely unrelated causes or are admitted to hospitals for a completely different reason are counted as "COVID Deaths." It's why they themselves make the distinction, as seen here. Note how they use "Omicron-related death" and "died with Omicron", not "Died of Omicron." The patient is also anonymous, so they could've made the death up or covered up the actual cause of death. They also get paid more for COVID-related illness and death then for marking patients as any other cause of death. Sure, there may not be blatant mislabeling, but considering how easy COVID test results are to manipulate and get false positives, anybody who, say, comes in due to having a stroke and gets a false positive COVID test can very easily be marked as a COVID admission. Not exactly rocket science. It's really sad how grown men on an autistic shitpost forum spend so much time trying to derail conversation by calling everyone a QTard GOP alt-rite nazi huwite man. Kill yourselves.

 

[Nobue]

Again, I know you are a simpleton and can barely read, but you apparently missed the point where I explained that the whole "they can't be held liable" thing happened decades ago.

Look, I know you hate scientists and science and education because your GOP overlords told you to. However, even someone as retarded as you should be able to follow the logic I outlined to you.


That's cute coming from the guy who doesn't even know how healthcare reimbursement works and thinks there's a conspiracy involving tens of millions of docs and scientists, who are willingly killing their own families over it, and the only one who figured it out is an uneducated autist simpleton.

Right, but they make more money with covid hospitalizations. You say they're all corrupt and only after money, well, now I have proven you wrong yet again, simpleton.


Oh wow, a yearly booster. So like a flu shot? Again, I know you're inept at math and such, but I've shown you how they make way more money from people not being vaccinated.


How was it so convenient then? I know you are madly in love with Donald Trump and want to have sex with him because of your boomer fetish for obese, elderly conmen, but Trump himself told the CDC not to do things to make himself look good. Biden, however, said to give the actual truth.


Lol that's cute you legitimately think tens of millions of docs and scientists are not only keeping silent about this vast conspiracy that only uneducated simpletons like you figured out, but they are willingly and enthusiastically killing their own families over it. All while you cannot find any evidence of these dead bodies from the super duper deadly vaccine. Oh, and this conspiracy is also costing the doctors and hospitals money, but they keep silent over it.

You seriously can't make this shit up Get back on your schizo meds. Or do you just watch too many TV shows? I am guessing that is it, now that I think about it. Your parents are like Chris Chan's parents and decided to put their simpleton spaz kid in front of the TV instead of actually helping him function in life. I suspect that's also why you think you know more about medicine than doctors and medical scientists, despite not even having a college degree and getting your medical info from boomer FB memes.

They were granted immunity at the beginning of this, at least in the US.

You understand that every con has its endpoint, right? What's better in the longterm?

COVID isn't going to last forever, and the pharmaceutical companies won't tolerate anyone robbing them of their grift.

We were promised the vaccines would end this, and we're already up to more shots, which weren't necessary originally. Then we might need another. Then it might be yearly. Actually, we might need multiple shots a year (which people are already suggesting). There will be a lot of money for your pharmagods forever if they can con people into this.

So, Biden has the CDC... admit the vaccines Biden and his owners are pushing aren't really stopping the spread, and admit more people are getting sick...like in every heavily vaccinated country? While he's trying to starve people who won't consume the product that clearly isn't failing, and the general public is starting to give up on?

 

[KateHikes14]

What vaccine?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

They were granted immunity at the beginning of this, at least in the US.

They've been granted immunity for vaccine issues for decades.

You understand that every con has its endpoint, right? What's better in the longterm?

I don't think you understand that every con has an endpoint. What do you think the endpoint of this con is? The doctors and scientists's families would die and they'd never hold jobs again? In the long-term, it's better for hospitals for covid to end because they make more $. That involves vaccines.

COVID isn't going to last forever, and the pharmaceutical companies won't tolerate anyone robbing them of their grift.

Lol you are seriously adorable in how you believe that real life is like the TV shows your mom watches about crime. Again, why the hell would scientists and doctors lose tons of money from covid and kill their families with the super duper dangerous vaccines all to benefit big pharma? You are seriously inept and never can answer that question when I ask.

We were promised the vaccines would end this, and we're already up to more shots, which weren't necessary originally. Then we might need another. Then it might be yearly. Actually, we might need multiple shots a year (which people are already suggesting). There will be a lot of money for your pharmagods forever if they can con people into this.

For the vaccines to have ended it, people would've had to actually take it to slow the spread. Instead we have mongs like you who believe boomer FB memes and then watch Alex Jones videos and claim you know more about it than doctors and scientists do.

So, Biden has the CDC... admit the vaccines Biden and his owners are pushing aren't really stopping the spread, and admit more people are getting sick...like in every heavily vaccinated country?

What? The vaccines are doing pretty good at stopping people from being seriously sick from covid. Again, I know Alex Jones told you that they don't work and like a good impressionable simpleton you believe him, but the vaccines do a pretty solid job overall. Yes, the are not 100% effective and I know you autists can't comprehend things that aren't 0% or 100%, but less us normies handle things while you go watch your Bitchute videos about how the vaccine is super duper dangerous and killing tens of millions of people but the bodies are somehow missing.

While he's trying to starve people who won't consume the product that clearly isn't failing, and the general public is starting to give up on?

Lol how is he starving the people who aren't vaccinated? You are seriously living in an alternate reality, son. Seek mental help and stop believing boomer FB memes. I know you have autism and that's turned you into a boomer, but seriously, man. You're in your 20s, right? Stop acting like a gullible 70 year old.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Yes actually. People who test positive for COVID but die due to completely unrelated causes or are admitted to hospitals for a completely different reason are counted as "COVID Deaths." It's why they themselves make the distinction, as seen here. Note how they use "Omicron-related death" and "died with Omicron", not "Died of Omicron." The patient is also anonymous, so they could've made the death up or covered up the actual cause of death. They also get paid more for COVID-related illness and death then for marking patients as any other cause of death. Sure, there may not be blatant mislabeling, but considering how easy COVID test results are to manipulate and get false positives, anybody who, say, comes in due to having a stroke and gets a false positive COVID test can very easily be marked as a COVID admission. Not exactly rocket science. It's really sad how grown men on an autistic shitpost forum spend so much time trying to derail conversation by calling everyone a QTard GOP alt-rite nazi huwite man. Kill yourselves.

Again, I know you are an uneducated retard because you're an anti-vaxer, but they audit the shit out of that. CMS doesn't like to get ripped off. And yes, hospitals get paid for covid deaths and patients, but that's because the government doesn't want hospitals going out business in the middle of a damn pandemic. I know Alex Jones never told you this, but hospitals are pretty important during a pandemic.

Also, how are covid tests easily manipulated? You mongs keep saying that is the case, but it really isn't.

It's really cute how newfags who signed up a month ago are telling people how to post. Go back to /pol/ with the other uneducated schizos