Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[AMHOLIO]

You think this poor lad is going to live to see 30?

Counter argument: look at the age of this board's subjects. Jazz also was designated by the universe to suffer prolonged pain, apparently. All cows we say are going to die rarely ever die.

She makes shitty porn/lewds and is just as Instagram/selfie-centric as the basic bitch blondes she's hanging around.

Binding gives you saggy boobs or angry boobs, not a perky uniboob. She also seems to still be getting "work" done on her face. How ridiculous.

It's terribly sad and ridiculous. I feel bad for her making porn while having a girlfriend, ideally the other partner wouldn't be ok with it unless they do online sex photography themselves (or are a cuck and/or are pitching out of their league looks wise - see let's players). The fact that the partner is doesn't bode well, as it usually indicates the partner wants an object to pose with and not a partner.

 

[PuffyGroundCloud]

At this rate Jazz is going to still be living at the Jennings compound when she's 30

Isn't that Jeanette's endgame?
Making sure her precious trans golden child to stay close to her always and forever?

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Something that’s been left out of this discussion that needs to be addressed more specifically - family members are usually NOT good personal trainers.

When the three of them circled around Jazz to talk about his weight and starred at him like it was some sort of intervention, Jazz can’t possibly take it seriously because it’s coming from his siblings. When Ari tells him to put the fork down, it’s not a nutritionist saying it, it’s his sister. It has less to do with Jazz being a selfish brat and more to do with these three dumbass idiots acting like they know how to help him loss weight like a professional could.

Not only do they not know how to do it, but they are terrible at it. The types of things they make Jazz do (Rollerblading, tennis, etc) are NOT common activities someone 200+ pounds is made to do when put on a exercise regime by a professional. Just falling over with that weight can be extremely dangerous.

So of course Jazz doesn’t take any of this seriously - how can he with those three begin his professional trainers? I understand it may not be too different if Jazz DID have an actual expert to help him lose weight, but your trainers being your siblings who obviously hold resentment towards you? Not a good combination.
It easily puts them in a position to fuck with Jazz under the guise of “weight loss” whenever they want. You don’t think they’re not going to ever take advantage of it? You don’t think Jazz doesn’t see this?

Too many people seem to sympathize with Ari and how frustrating Jazz is being but when these three douchebags play volleyball talking about how fat Jazz is and how he needs to be apart of their “vision square” its cringe.

Imagine you’re on the couch eating Cheetos and watching TV while out of the blue all your siblings sit around you and say, “We need to talk - we noticed you’re fat. We made a plan for you. It’s called a Vision Square. We’ll be your personal trainers now. Here’s your schedule for next week.” Tell me what other face you’d make other than this

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No wonder this was the moment Jazz cracked and said he lived for others, never himself. Just let the damn man eat his freaking Cheetos in peace.

You are not wrong, but there are cases where a member of the family can help others to overcome addiction or mental illness due to the closeness. It's not working with Jazz, but because it's Jazz.

The problem here is that the family helping him is used as another scripted gag for the show. The show needs the conflict and the people behind the show are perfectly ok with throwing Jazz under the bus and humiliate him if that means creating conflict for people to see. In a private environment, maybe they could be more strict with Jazz, but Jazz being obediente and following his family's instructions doesn't make good tv.

What it's obvious is that, whatever plans they had for this season, they got ruined by Jazz's obvious obesity and they can't ignore that. That and the butcher who fucked him up saying it was all a mistake and their experiment failed. So, not only they need to do damage control for the "Trans Kids are all normal and happy!" narrative, they also have to deal with Jazz proving all the opposite. That's why they're more focused on Sanders and his trans love quest and all the other trans featured in the show. See, bigot? They aren't obese or mentally r.etarded, it's all Jazz and Jazz alone. Jazz has not only become a secondary character of his own show, he's also the comic relief they all are unconsciously trying to punish.

 

[LigmaTwatz]

This made me laugh
Dr. Bowers Twitter is off the chain.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

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This made me laugh
Dr. Bowers Twitter is off the chain.

Claiming to improve children's lives while multilating them is morally inconsistent. Eat shit, Bowers.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

TikTok Doctor Performed Breast Removal on "Trans" 13 Year Old Girl

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So, they changed the one who butchered Jazz for this?

 

[KiwiFuzz]

The argument though is why couldn't the artificial "puberty" they rigged up with prescribed hormones fill in the same place for Jazz' natural puberty.

I sperged a while ago about Michael Pollan saying that the secret ingredient in broccoli is broccoli.

We don't know shit about nutrition and how nutrition affects the body.

Eggs are good, eggs are bad, butter is terrible for you, margarine will straight kill you, butter in moderation is better than sugar in any amount.

What makes us think we know anything about hormones? Not just sex hormones, but all hormones.

There are five major plant hormones. We're all up here like there are two human hormones: testosterone and estrogen.

So-called "puberty blockers" block more than just testosterone or estrogen. It's human experimentation with a living subject. Nazi medicine.

Like if I said that I was going to inject a chemical that would block all five hormones in a corn plant but then inject the plant with hormones of my own making, people would think that was creepy and unnatural. I certainly couldn't market the resulting corn cob as organic.

I don't know how any of this is "woke."

I have spoken before about how trans shit isn't one peak, it's the transverse range, and thinking that two pills, a blocker and a replacement, can change a human body into the opposite sex is a whole damn promontory.

 

[The Joker]

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TikTok Doctor Performed Breast Removal on "Trans" 13 Year Old Girl

Disturbing details uncovered by internet sleuths found that a surgeon infamous for advertising invasive "gender affirming" procedures on TikTok removed the breasts of a 13 year old girl, who is now also pursuing a hysterectomy at age 15. Dr. Sidhbh Gallagher, a Miami-based plastic surgeon, rose...

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So, they changed the one who butchered Jazz for this?

A surgeon that mutilates the reproductive organs of children. Such a stunning and brave LGBT warrior.
Slight power level here but I know quite a few people who went through a "trans/ nonbinary" phase when they were in their cringe years back in the day when the fad first started. All of them admitted it was just a phase and grew into normal adults.
Now we have "enby" and trans teens that are able to buy hormones that destroy their bodies and "woke" surgeons/ butches operating on young teens.
There is a major difference in getting a reduction (like a 16 year old getting her natural G cup breasts reduced down to a D because of the constant back pain/ discomfort) and then removing the top of a 13 year old child that hasn't even finished puberty!

 

[behindyourightnow]

Spoiler: More before and after pics from Noah’s Instagram

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I noted in this thread that FtMs have developed their own version of the AGP smirk: low angle (to look taller/more threatening, I assume) and a sneer (only women smile!). Noah has given me a few more perfect examples.

That's a feature, not a bug. His puberty was prevented to stop male development and this includes maturation. They thought he would somehow get the female version by pumping him full of estrogen but that's impossible because he is male.

Jeanette and Greg gave him drugs that made him r.etarded (for adult standards). In my opinion it's highly unlikely that he will get better because he missed a crucial part of development which can't be done again.

I have noticed this with a lot of other formerly puberty-blocked people as well. They act like children and seem to think like them.

Even if you could somehow reverse the physical damage to their brains (which you can’t) they have still gone through their most formative years and experiences while still having the stunted brains of children, and they can never get those years back.

We are social animals that evolved to work and hunt in packs. Adolescent identity formation isn’t just about making bad fashion decisions and doing cringey things to impress your friend group, it’s a crucial stage where your brain learns how you fit in socially with the other monkeys around you, and how that role will affect you for the rest of your life.

Now they’re taking that developmental stage of the brain that makes up a part of this identity formation and just... removing it. With no concern about what that will do long-term. None.

 

[Rei is shit]

Late, I know but:

The argument though is why couldn't the artificial "puberty" they rigged up with prescribed hormones fill in the same place for Jazz' natural puberty.

I think the artifical hormones maybe could help promote the brain development a real girl would experience, but probably not all of it. There's probably big influences on brain development that aren't caused by the big hormone, estrogen or testosterone, but proceed alongside the hormonal development in parallel with it. That's why "puberty blocker" is such a shit euphemism. They're more accurately called something like hormone blockers, because we don't know all of the causes of puberty; there might be non-hormonal influences on puberty that still proceed and everything gets out of sync and fucked up if all we do is suppress the hormones.

Even if those non-hormonal influences are as simple/non-biological as social interaction, that's a huge part of growing up that's being fucked with. It's patently ridiculous to think we can pause puberty.


Generally agree, although they are responsible for not telling the troons as a group to fuck off. Any gays that use the LGBT (to say nothing of the WTFBBQ+) are part of the problem.

I feel like the gay community suffers pretty badly from geek social fallacies.

They can't come close because hormones vary throughout the day. What the cycle does is who the fuck knows, but its probably pretty important that certain hormones are ramped up during sleep while others only ramp up during the afternoon.

This is universal for all living things btw. Even plants will have different hormone levels throughout the day. There is not being replicated at all, right now they just give a pill or a patch that is like a slow release drug - in other words about the same amount constantly.

 

[Bumbler]

They can't come close because hormones vary throughout the day. What the cycle does is who the fuck knows, but its probably pretty important that certain hormones are ramped up during sleep while others only ramp up during the afternoon.

This is universal for all living things btw. Even plants will have different hormone levels throughout the day. There is not being replicated at all, right now they just give a pill or a patch that is like a slow release drug - in other words about the same amount constantly.

Don't worry, with studies of the variance, and advanced machine learning algorithms, a neural network will be able to simulate and deliver these variances.
Ethics be damned, insurance companies will figure out a way to fit a machine learning core into that kids arm, and transmit data to it via bluetooth.
I probably shouldn't be giving them ideas though.
But the faster they wipe out the population, the faster the survivors can put them in a kangaroo court, and punish them.

 

[Medicinal Molduga]

Too many people seem to sympathize with Ari and how frustrating Jazz is being but when these three douchebags play volleyball talking about how fat Jazz is and how he needs to be apart of their “vision square” its cringe.

Imagine you’re on the couch eating Cheetos and watching TV while out of the blue all your siblings sit around you and say, “We need to talk - we noticed you’re fat. We made a plan for you. It’s called a Vision Square. We’ll be your personal trainers now. Here’s your schedule for next week.” Tell me what other face you’d make other than this

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No wonder this was the moment Jazz cracked and said he lived for others, never himself. Just let the damn man eat his freaking Cheetos in peace.

You're completely right: their approach is counterproductive and very cruel to Jazz (especially because they are doing it for the cameras) . My post was only an attempt at explaining Ari's point of view and the dynamics at play. But it doesn't mean that she's going about this the right way: she absolutely isn't (although I think there's some good intent on her part) .

Jeannette, the twins, Ari, all of them are publicly shaming and humiliating Jazz for being stuck in a cycle of bad habits with zero compassion for him. And when you're in a cycle of bad habits, shaming and public exposure often achieve the very opposite of what they intend: they paralyze the person, who feels unable to make any changes because they are made to feel like the bad habit is a fault of character, rather than a habit that manifests from a deeper problem. This is also why KF threads are good for our entertainment and for spreading general awareness, but absolutely do not work to help a cow get their shit together (as some have previously implied with regard to Jazz).

Ari's lack of compassion in the way she deals with Jazz to me is explained in the way I said (but not excused). Jeannette's cruelty is just... Narcissism. She's a horrible parent, the pleasure she gets from her child's public humiliation seems to be equal or greater than the one she got from her kid being seen as a perfect star some years ago. Greg is no better, he sees it all and doesn't intervene. Sander is acting like a little selfish brat trying to capitalize on his brother's problem (with zero willingness to understand the origin). Etc.

The little scene of the three siblings cornering Jazz to put him on the spot is the perfect example of the triangulation scenario for me. Jeannette doesn't even have to intervene. The kids are pitting themselves against one another on their own.

And yes I agree that Jazz needs to be left alone about his weight (unless they get him a proper therapist behind the scenes, which isn't going to happen). Otherwise he will just develop unhealthier coping habits that still allow some emotional release but keep him skinny, such as bulimia and/or drugs. The problem that needs addressing, unfortunately, is his family itself and the fact that being a reality TV star fucks people up very badly (on top of the genital mutilation) . So it's not going to get better anytime soon.

Jazz's life is a true tragedy. It's mad that we all see it develop in real time, but no one can do anything. I don't know if Exulansic's initiative will get very far, but I'm glad she is at least trying. The #FreeJazz tag is also clever. Not that it's going to catch on, it being a "terf dogwhistle" and all.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

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This will end when these butchers start disappearing in the middle of the night, with no explanations ever given.
In Minecraft of course.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Jeannette, the twins, Ari, all of them are publicly shaming and humiliating Jazz for being stuck in a cycle of bad habits with zero compassion for him. And when you're in a cycle of bad habits, shaming and public exposure often achieve the very opposite of what they intend: they paralyze the person, who feels unable to make any changes because they are made to feel like the bad habit is a fault of character, rather than a habit that manifests from a deeper problem. This is also why KF threads are good for our entertainment and for spreading general awareness, but absolutely do not work to help a cow get their shit together (as some have previously implied with regard to Jazz).

Jazz is the only person on KF who I feel actual compassion for. His problems are not his fault; however, that doesn't mean he can't take any initiative towards fixing them.

 

[Bumbler]

You're completely right: their approach is counterproductive and very cruel to Jazz (especially because they are doing it for the cameras) . My post was only an attempt at explaining Ari's point of view and the dynamics at play. But it doesn't mean that she's going about this the right way: she absolutely isn't (although I think there's some good intent on her part) .

Jeannette, the twins, Ari, all of them are publicly shaming and humiliating Jazz for being stuck in a cycle of bad habits with zero compassion for him. And when you're in a cycle of bad habits, shaming and public exposure often achieve the very opposite of what they intend: they paralyze the person, who feels unable to make any changes because they are made to feel like the bad habit is a fault of character, rather than a habit that manifests from a deeper problem. This is also why KF threads are good for our entertainment and for spreading general awareness, but absolutely do not work to help a cow get their shit together (as some have previously implied with regard to Jazz).

Ari's lack of compassion in the way she deals with Jazz to me is explained in the way I said (but not excused). Jeannette's cruelty is just... Narcissism. She's a horrible parent, the pleasure she gets from her child's public humiliation seems to be equal or greater than the one she got from her kid being seen as a perfect star some years ago. Greg is no better, he sees it all and doesn't intervene. Sander is acting like a little selfish brat trying to capitalize on his brother's problem (with zero willingness to understand the origin). Etc.

The little scene of the three siblings cornering Jazz to put him on the spot is the perfect example of the triangulation scenario for me. Jeannette doesn't even have to intervene. The kids are pitting themselves against one another on their own.

And yes I agree that Jazz needs to be left alone about his weight (unless they get him a proper therapist behind the scenes, which isn't going to happen). Otherwise he will just develop unhealthier coping habits that still allow some emotional release but keep him skinny, such as bulimia and/or drugs. The problem that needs addressing, unfortunately, is his family itself and the fact that being a reality TV star fucks people up very badly (on top of the genital mutilation) . So it's not going to get better anytime soon.

Jazz's life is a true tragedy. It's mad that we all see it develop in real time, but no one can do anything. I don't know if Exulansic's initiative will get very far, but I'm glad she is at least trying. The #FreeJazz tag is also clever. Not that it's going to catch on, it being a "terf dogwhistle" and all.

I saw that scene in the latest Exulansic video, and thought to myself, this is some corporate thought shit right here.

Jazz is the only person on KF who I feel actual compassion for. His problems are not his fault; however, that doesn't mean he can't take any initiative towards fixing them.

The problem in this scenario is they continue to reinforce that he's incapable.
He's not going to Harvard, and they all know it, and I think that's going to be the thing that breaks him, the moment he gets the memo.


The TLC corporate board really needs to watch this video.

Bill Hicks on Marketing

www.youtube.com

 

[DCMediaSped]

Jazz is the only person on KF who I feel actual compassion for. His problems are not his fault; however, that doesn't mean he can't take any initiative towards fixing them.

Agreed. Jazz is a true victim of his sick mother. A simple google search would have shown her why that surgery was a horrible, life ruining idea. Instead she cherry picked what she wanted to believe and completely ignored the real consequences. She should be in prison for signing off on that.

 

[Bumbler]

Agreed. Jazz is a true victim of his sick mother. A simple google search would have shown her why that surgery was a horrible, life ruining idea. Instead she cherry picked what she wanted to believe and completely ignored the real consequences. She should be in prison for signing off on that.

I think the only way Jazz is getting out of it, is if someone can help him fuel some resentment.
Someone needs to fan that flame.

 

[Law]

tlc went super bankrupt

Inshallah!

Generally agree, although they are responsible for not telling the troons as a group to fuck off.

The ones who tried were censored and repressed. Allison Bailey and LGB Alliance were almost designated a hate group.

What it's obvious is that, whatever plans they had for this season, they got ruined by Jazz's obvious obesity and they can't ignore that.

I think we can't discount that this could be a rebellion thing. Jazz, on some level, knows that the show and his family are hurting him, and getting fat was his way of throwing a spanner in the works.

 

[The Joker]

Jazz is the only person on KF who I feel actual compassion for. His problems are not his fault; however, that doesn't mean he can't take any initiative towards fixing them.

Jazz can be an egotistical little brat but damn, he is stuck in a preteen mindset, has a butchered body, and only lives to make his mother happy as her passion project.
Now he has his whole family telling him he is fat on cable TV for the world to see.

 

[GenderCop]

So does anyone besides me find it gross in the extreme, that Jeannette's little Karen sidekick (Chris) deliberately wore a "black trans women matter" t-shirt, just to argue with a black trans woman and put her in her place as 'ignorant'?
JFC the sheer nerve of these pseudo-SJW suburban bitches amazes me.

its so obvious everything is about them, its never been about jazz.

jazz has merely been 'means to an end'= how can I get more attention so everyone sees how great i am for associating with jazz???