Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)
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verissimus
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Who says the "true believers" won't somehow vote blue even if they didn't actually casted a vote?
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To explain the narrative here to those who aren't as good at piecing it together. here was the intent (and how it went).
Step One: Pass a large Infrastructure package. This would do three core things. First, it would pay off the Democrats debts which are massive, substantial, and crippling. Second, it would bribe key senators and representatives to help smooth over ruffled feathers and shore up support. Third, it would shore up political capital losses do to the election steal and set the board for future legislation. This is to be done as early as possible, preferably around June/July to see short-term benefits kick in by October 2021, and long-term benefits by October 2022. Right before key elections.
This more or less crashed and burned. Afghanistan happened, as well as a number of smaller crises, which just heaped onto the expected cost and removed any and all political capital they had. The big infrastructure package was never realized, eventually, a much smaller, rabidly cut-down variant passed... very late. Which while big to anyone with a sane mind, was basically just a ton of normal pork with a handful of nods to the bigger package that barely amount to anything. None of the objectives were achieved with it, but the hope likely was that some benefit could be gained to at least give some level of public pressure for step 2.
Step Two: Pass the first mainline bill. This originally was meant to be the voting bill, but it was quickly shelved due to entrenched resistance. Instead, the second mainline bill was put forth. This bill was a massive social spending bill, called Build Back Better. Its ostensible purpose was a total overhaul of the system to make everything 'better', in reality, it represented a massive seizure of power, an attempt to get the entire nation dependent on the government, various ways to entrench electoral power using illegals, and a just laundry list of massive issues. It would be a massive step for a total democrat seize of power, and the reason it was moved to step two was that the passing of it, and the various short-term benefits it provifed the populace, would be a substantial boost to political capital.
It also just -outright- crashed and burned.
Step Three: Where we are now, the originally first mainline bill now the second. A total powergrab by the democrats meant to enshrine their cheating into law to ensure they can never, ever be outvoted. Chance of passing in any meaningful format, basically zero.
Step One: Pass a large Infrastructure package. This would do three core things. First, it would pay off the Democrats debts which are massive, substantial, and crippling. Second, it would bribe key senators and representatives to help smooth over ruffled feathers and shore up support. Third, it would shore up political capital losses do to the election steal and set the board for future legislation. This is to be done as early as possible, preferably around June/July to see short-term benefits kick in by October 2021, and long-term benefits by October 2022. Right before key elections.
This more or less crashed and burned. Afghanistan happened, as well as a number of smaller crises, which just heaped onto the expected cost and removed any and all political capital they had. The big infrastructure package was never realized, eventually, a much smaller, rabidly cut-down variant passed... very late. Which while big to anyone with a sane mind, was basically just a ton of normal pork with a handful of nods to the bigger package that barely amount to anything. None of the objectives were achieved with it, but the hope likely was that some benefit could be gained to at least give some level of public pressure for step 2.
Step Two: Pass the first mainline bill. This originally was meant to be the voting bill, but it was quickly shelved due to entrenched resistance. Instead, the second mainline bill was put forth. This bill was a massive social spending bill, called Build Back Better. Its ostensible purpose was a total overhaul of the system to make everything 'better', in reality, it represented a massive seizure of power, an attempt to get the entire nation dependent on the government, various ways to entrench electoral power using illegals, and a just laundry list of massive issues. It would be a massive step for a total democrat seize of power, and the reason it was moved to step two was that the passing of it, and the various short-term benefits it provifed the populace, would be a substantial boost to political capital.
It also just -outright- crashed and burned.
Step Three: Where we are now, the originally first mainline bill now the second. A total powergrab by the democrats meant to enshrine their cheating into law to ensure they can never, ever be outvoted. Chance of passing in any meaningful format, basically zero.
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Nobody, he's just someone I found while looking for salt to mine about Manchin blocking everything.
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Indeed not, but I'd hardly call the transcontinental railroad anything exceptionally corrupt for the time. That sort of double-dealing was the standard for business at those times. Won't say I like it, but the little guy got his own cut at the end, and its a cut he wouldn't have had if the railroad didn't get built.
But seriously, the entire US economy got a massive shot in the arm since we could finally ship products clean from coast-to-coast.
Well, its fine, she's only 1024th Native, so she's only 1024th more likely to develop a serious complication.
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Thank you for this very informative and useful summary.
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Did West Virginia do particularly well economically under Trump? Manchin pulled the rug out from under Biden today and Biden has a reputation (or so claimed) of being a spiteful son of a bitch when crossed.
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Not particularly well, WV hasn't done particularly well economically, really ever. But Clinton and NAFTA, then Obama, killed a lot of industry in the state and fucked with the coal mines, while Bush sent their kids overseas to die for globohomo and oil.
Bidenflation has hit people up there hard though so while Trump didn't do any miracles for them the view is that at least he wasn't actively trying to fuck them up.
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Trump did want to get the coal mines back up and running, IIRC, which would have really helped a lot with the state's conditions, but...
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Like I said before, Manchin is just one more person more powerful than Joe Biden.White House lights up Manchin after he crushes Biden's megabill
Holy fuck Manchin was really leading Biden along. Apparently this week he gave Biden a draft for a compromise version of BBB he said he would vote for, which Biden approved of, and then Manchin did a 180 and went on Fox saying he actually won't be doing that. Manchin didn't tell the White House he was gonna go onto Fox and kill BBB until 30 minutes prior, which led to the White House panicking and sending him phone calls which he ignored. Not even Bret Baier, the guy he was on air with, knew Manchin was going to say what he said.
What a class act.
The desperation is tangible. Not only does the White House feel genuinely betrayed by Manchin lying to their faces, they're also well aware that they need to get something, ANYTHING done.
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Technically all of the Senators are, individually anyway. That's what happens when you have a 50-50 Senate. People are actually all [shocked pikachu face] that this is how our government works, but that only shows their ignorance or impatience.
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Hes eating. He is probably eating after sundown or something. He’d be dead or hospitalized not eating for 42 days being that skinny.
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I'm never giving up my weeb cred. Never!
If he pisses Senator Manchin off enough, he could always go independent or support the GOP. Slim control of the Senate is better than no control - Biden has no power over Manchin, and Manchin knows it.
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progress
they should've just elected 51 senators instead
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And if you don't believe him... YOU AIN'T BLACK!
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I'm going to overwhelm all over your face, bitches.
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Hey White House, can you cool it with the salt? I don't need a heart attack from your overdose of it.
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And it shows by how the state went 70% to Trump. That they like him anyways.
If I recall when Biden got into congress wasn't segregation almost completely over. Meaning Joe wasn't as apart of it as much as he claims to be.
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Nigga wasn't even a senator during the Civil Rights era. In gaffe-land, however, his career dates back to the Civil War.
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