Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

he isn’t on the list. As if he has a shot at lists like this! As if his absence is significant enough to note, as if Princess Philosopher Abigail Thorn would sit naturally among professional actors and athletes and a bestselling writer and a Sports Illustrated cover model. The joke aims for self-effacing, but the arrogance of the premise blows me away.
b-but hes britains most famous troon dont ya know.

A vid I’d never watched b4

fuckin mystery that
 
Based on all the surgery speculation I decided to take it upon myself and perform some major plastic shopping to try and make Chube as womanly as possible.
In order to replicate the NHS experience, I decided to pass the selected images through FaceApp and use only mesh transform in one layer in FireAlpaca. This procedure helped me put Chube's appearance into perspective.

Luvs, allow me to introduce you to Duchess Abigal Thorn of da Chube, Princess of TERF Island.

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Operation report:
> I couldn't do shit with that hairline. Sorry Chube.
> I pretty much had to break the chin and shoulders and remake them into my image in ways beyond the Hippocratic Oath.
> While I would never claim Chube has a warrior skull, his facial features just don't mesh, even by force, with anything resembling a feminine frame. The cheekbones proved to be the biggest surprise and as you can see the cheek implants couldn't mask them.

I could only make him look like a high-end twink and a diet Hontra lol.
I think I am going to refer Chube to an American clinic so he can get euphoric about the accent.
 
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Babes, allow me to introduce you to Duchess Abigal Thorn of da Chube, Princess of TERF Island.

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The first one is giving me Alita battle angel vibes lol
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I had a go myself at playing troon god and came up with the following:

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I used an Asian beauty app to get rid off most of the jaw and chin however when it came to adjusting the notorious, unconquerable midface I couldnt do it because it was a premium feauture that you have to pay for lol. These apps sure know their audience!

Its so strange because I would never think of Olly as being a very masculine guy pre troon out but when you try and make him fit the female mold its evident hes a hulking man with a hulking man skeleton. Incels were onto something when they talked about the irrepressable nature of the shape of ones jaw.
 
All this makes me think that whenever I see images of his livestreams the fuzzy, ridiculously soft focus brings to mind a comment that Redlettermedia made about how there was a comically obvious tendency of the original Star Trek series to have any shot of a woman with a similarly overdone soft focus to the point that it looked like they had smeared Vaseline over the camera lens. It was in stark contrast to how men were usually shot and spoke to how in that period there was an extremely restrictive expectation of how women could be portrayed on TV, as if any visible wrinkles would prompt people to throw their TV out of a six story window in rage.

It was a funny bit about anachronistic 60s sexism but its made all the funnier that people like Olly have essentially resurrected it so they can play at being the same crudely airbrushed women on video.
 
I can't remember which Kiwi found that other outfit on PrettyLittleThing (like the UK FashionNova) but I couldn't get over how cheap this looked so I decided to check and
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Yep, £45 ($60) on PrettyLittleThing. It looks significantly worse on Ollie because his enormous torso means the belt ends up too short. Oh and of course, the gloves match the lace so let's have a look and...
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Yep, so they were £6 ($8 ). I wonder if the squred off open toed heels he's wearing were
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oh of course. So there you go, shop the entire look for £71 ($93). Might want to start sending your stylist down to Primark babes, it's comparable quality.

Aww....well I have to confess, out of everything he's worn this year, I acrually liked this outfit the best. 🙈 Not on Olligail, of course. But like, I thought with the gloves and everything it was just objectively pretty and would look good on me lol.

Also, there's something fishy going on with this whole "behind the scenes" documentary (the pretentiousness is aggravating) which he keeps pointing out that he didn't make; he hasnt even seen it yet because "the crew" made it. Methinks the himbo doth protest too much, eh? I mean, does he really expect us all to believe that his crew just spontaneously decided to prop up Chube's ego even more AND make extra work for themselves by making a behind the scenes doc? To me, I think it's clear and I'd bet folding money on this being Chube's idea. I mean, duh. Of-fucking-course it was his idea.
 
I can't remember which Kiwi found that other outfit on PrettyLittleThing (like the UK FashionNova) but I couldn't get over how cheap this looked so I decided to check and
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Yep, £45 ($60) on PrettyLittleThing. It looks significantly worse on Ollie because his enormous torso means the belt ends up too short. Oh and of course, the gloves match the lace so let's have a look and...
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Yep, so they were £6 ($8 ). I wonder if the squred off open toed heels he's wearing were
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oh of course. So there you go, shop the entire look for £71 ($93). Might want to start sending your stylist down to Primark babes, it's comparable quality.

Smh. Chubs is such a deeeeep hypocrite in every facet of his being.

Fast fashion bullshit, come on, even aside from the fact its PoLiTiCaLlY indefensible, sweatshop planet killing shit, that is a massive problem clogging land-fils ( and he especially due to his frame will be able to wear quite literally once before he busts through every poorly made, clicked seam) ;

But as a posh cunt he should know better than that. He can afford to buy clothes that, subjective to whatever personal aesthetic, are at least good quality.

In fact his whole troonsition, stinks of the vibe of turning up in a battered Hermes box, thrown roughly over the back yard wall, after a drink sodden late-night rampage through depressing websites, barely even good enough for the grey crushed velvet cushion brigade.
The whole thing.
So bleak.
 
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Smh. Chubs is such a deeeeep hypocrite in every facet of his being.

Fast fashion bullshit, come on, even aside from the fact its PoLiTiCaLlY indefensible, sweatshop planet killing shit, that is a massive problem clogging land-fils ( and he especially due to his frame will be able to wear quite literally once before he busts through every poorly made, clicked seam) ;

But as a posh cunt he should know better than that. He can afford to buy clothes that, subjective to whatever personal aesthetic, are at least good quality.

In fact his whole troonsition, stinks of the vibe of turning up in a battered Hermes box, thrown roughly over the back yard wall, after a drink sodden late-night rampage through depressing websites, barely even google enough for the grey crushed velvet cushion brigade.
The whole thing.
So bleak.

Fast fashion really fucks me up both on a personal level and in use by PT.

Like, if your entire YouTube USP is that you make these incredibly aesthetic long form videos involving multiple costume changes... It's so bizarre to get cheap NovaFashion, Shein, and PrettyLittleThing polyester crap for your costumes.

It doesn't really suit anyone's frame because the sizes are churned out for a very standard ratio of measurements. In the case of Shein and it's related sites like TaoBao/AliExpress/Wish those are Chinese waist-hip-shoulder ratios which most Westerners won't look flattered by.
Even the Western shops also work off patterns that suit a very limited group of the population.

All this means is that people buy 5 dresses hoping for one to look decent and the rest are discarded. The waste is horrible, as well as the fact that prices are so low only because production is kept low in sweatshops. The fabric making and dying process is really toxic as fuck, the clothes are sewn in the third world by garment workers who are treated like shit, and then warehouse workers are run ragged fulfilling the orders.

For someone who makes as much money on patreon and grew up in a clearly well off household, I don't understand why PT doesn't get decent quality, expensive clothes a size larger and then actually pay a seamstress to adjust the fit. This is how rich people look so good, everything is customised to their shape. And it would make the clothes look much better

But this takes effort and more cash than just throwing on shit from Shein and waiting for people to fawn over you. You also don't have to pretend to care about the environment or exploited workers (despite that being your entire Raison d'Etre)

It always blows my mind when people who claim to be really eco concious do shit like buying fast fashion, getting vegan food that's flown from the other side of the world rather than local, and so on
 
Fast fashion really fucks me up both on a personal level and in use by PT.

Like, if your entire YouTube USP is that you make these incredibly aesthetic long form videos involving multiple costume changes... It's so bizarre to get cheap NovaFashion, Shein, and PrettyLittleThing polyester crap for your costumes.

It doesn't really suit anyone's frame because the sizes are churned out for a very standard ratio of measurements. In the case of Shein and it's related sites like TaoBao/AliExpress/Wish those are Chinese waist-hip-shoulder ratios which most Westerners won't look flattered by.
Even the Western shops also work off patterns that suit a very limited group of the population.

All this means is that people buy 5 dresses hoping for one to look decent and the rest are discarded. The waste is horrible, as well as the fact that prices are so low only because production is kept low in sweatshops. The fabric making and dying process is really toxic as fuck, the clothes are sewn in the third world by garment workers who are treated like shit, and then warehouse workers are run ragged fulfilling the orders.

For someone who makes as much money on patreon and grew up in a clearly well off household, I don't understand why PT doesn't get decent quality, expensive clothes a size larger and then actually pay a seamstress to adjust the fit. This is how rich people look so good, everything is customised to their shape. And it would make the clothes look much better

But this takes effort and more cash than just throwing on shit from Shein and waiting for people to fawn over you. You also don't have to pretend to care about the environment or exploited workers (despite that being your entire Raison d'Etre)

It always blows my mind when people who claim to be really eco concious do shit like buying fast fashion, getting vegan food that's flown from the other side of the world rather than local, and so on
exactly my feeling.
it’s like come on you lazy piece of shit.
posers like him LOVED hearing “there is no ethical consumption under capitalism” as it just gave them the excuse to follow thier natural urge of never thinking about anyone other than themselves and bother to make the changes that if everyone did, would literally change the entire problem in capitalism and make actual progress beyond it.

nah, they are happy to throw their hands up and consoom the moon, while making snarky comments pointing over there.
people are like this a lot now.. like just in general.
i remember when ‘alternative’ people woudlnt wear Nike and stuff.. over the last two decades people really have just given up.
I think a lot of it has to do with social media and the ability to see everyone else’s consumption and the temptation to just go with the tide once you see how huge it is.

Chube woudlnt dare do a video about consumption despite it being something that actually concerns him and that he can actually effect in his own small way, unlike say, islamophobia, women and food- anything he’s talked about in recent times really.
 
lol, tube salty about getting They'd again.
he pretty much exclusively talks to blue checkmarks, with varying degrees of success in replies.
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he's been heavily spamming this peson particularlary, whoever they are.

I dont blame anyone for not being bothered to post it as it's utterly tedious, but past few days Chube has been screech huffing about how some big trans medical NHS reform bill in scotland, which doenst concern him and has come out of the blue and been welcomed by shitloads of troons, is not good enough by half.
he also cringingly said, lol :


"Don’t wanna speak over Scottish comrades, but if it were me I’d be furious at this milquetoast promise of compromise. I don’t want reform; I want justice''


the 'speak over my scottish comrades' thing sends me, for some reason lmao.

There hasnt been many takers for his point of view at all.
most people are just politely ignoring him, but this one sums it up pretty well..
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uh. you'd think he himself would be bored of doing this by now.
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way to not support literally anyone whose work you admire , enjoy, or even just listen to while doing the housework, if it doesn't absolutely directly benefit you.
you'd think someone so narcissistic would at least learn to be calculating about how not to appear such a cunt again and again?
 
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He says this so often I have to assume it’s a doth protest too much situation. He probably flys into a rage at people taking shots at him. Which, to a degree, is a normal reaction, who wants to read shit said about themselves online?

But I think his NPD and facade management require him to put on this front. “I have a blast reading that I’m an immensely clockable pervert in a dress, babes.”

Like I said, saying this once or twice would be one thing, but I feel like I’ve heard him say a variation of this claim a dozen times. If he wasn’t so cheap he could hire someone to run his socials and screen out the “transphobia” for him.
 
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He says this so often I have to assume it’s a doth protest too much situation. He probably flys into a rage at people taking shots at him. Which, to a degree, is a normal reaction, who wants to read shit said about themselves online?

But I think his NPD and facade management require him to put on this front. “I have a blast reading that I’m an immensely clockable pervert in a dress, babes.”

Like I said, saying this once or twice would be one thing, but I feel like I’ve heard him say a variation of this claim a dozen times. If he wasn’t so cheap he could hire someone to run his socials and screen out the “transphobia” for him.
to me i just shows a ramping up of his insanity and monomaniacalism.
blocking out, desperately, any and all people ''who even look'' like having opposing viewpoints- which is all handily covered under the umbrella of transphobia now.

its a very unbalanced and self fellatory way of viewing things, and yeah, speaks to a knowing, ever loudening insecurity.

Wonder if we are gonna see any more cracks appearing over the Xmas period- often tense for those who have clearly had at least something of a rift with their families- especially when you're mummy's little piggy who additionally is gonna have all those typical posh-boy family resentments and psychological complications bubbling not too far under the surface.
 
Like, if your entire YouTube USP is that you make these incredibly aesthetic long form videos involving multiple costume changes... It's so bizarre to get cheap NovaFashion, Shein, and PrettyLittleThing polyester crap for your costumes.
Some people, even rich people (including Olly), can’t appreciate the difference between good and bad quality of products and only see prices. Does it really surprise you Olly wears sweatshop-gear whilst talking about the revolution to his paypiggies? LMAO

Also I feel sorry for his stylist, likely an ugly gay guy. Can you imagine having to put up and play along with Ollys Trans-LARP as an actual LGBTQ-Person? As if working under an (actual) narcissistic tranny wouldn’t be bad enough.
 
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uh. you'd think he himself would be bored of doing this by now.
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way to not support literally anyone whose work you admit, if it doesn't absolutely directly benefit you. you'd think someone so narcissistic would at least learn to be calculating about how not to appear such a cunt? again and again?
It really is something how he's so consistent in only caring about himself and things that advantage himself and nothing else. The cute response would be 'Kill James Bond.... jk, more seriously here's a number of smaller podcasts hosted by other trans creators that you should listen too'. Bam, you got the self promotion and can play it off as having a laugh, then you get some kudos and good will from being seen to promote smaller LGBTQ creators which should still massage your ego as a guy with enough clout to direct the masses towards the eternally grateful minor peasants, and further build up this idea that you're some great pillar of the LGBT+ community.

In other words, he's not even smart about being a self absorbed asshole!
 
Some people, even rich people (including Olly), can’t appreciate the difference between good and bad quality of products and only see prices. Does it really surprise you Olly wears sweatshop-gear whilst talking about the revolution to his paypiggies? LMAO

Also I feel sorry for his stylist, likely an ugly gay guy. Can you imagine having to put up and play along with Ollys Trans-LARP as an actual LGBTQ-Person? As if working under an (actual) narcissistic tranny wouldn’t be bad enough.
I do have a schizo theory that his stylist only took the job because they're struggling (money's tight at the moment, so less people are hiring stylists - even some fashion houses are getting in-house staff to put together "edits" for shoots), and they know Ollie has no taste or sense of style. Thus they hate Ollie and take it out on him by dressing him atrociously, because he won't know he looks terrible. The frequent use of outfits that literally do not fit his frame lends credence - unless Ollie's stylist is blind, they'd spot that a mile off (being a stylist is actually a skilled profession, you won't get anywhere unless you've got an eye for detail). I can absolutely see Ollie thought he looking banging in that shitty jumpsuit, because "oh it's all white and it's lace and it's low cut, so that's a sexy outfit" and didn't even consider he looked like he'd wrapped himself in his nan's net curtains (and why lace opera gloves?! You can't just put on opera gloves and declare yourself classy, they're only ever formalwear or fetishwear/fancy dress and so the outfit has to be one of those. No woman walks around in opera gloves).

My alternative theory is that Ollie's really tightfisted and sets a rock bottom budget for outfits, which has forced his stylist to resort to Nastygal and PrettyLittleThing. Compare this with the person he's skinwalking:

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AFAIK Contra doesn't hire stylists. This dress probably wasn't that expensive (although likely more expensive than Ollie's entire look) but it fits well and more importantly was styled well. That wig is an expensive lacefront that Contra likely had styled at a non-insignificant price. The ribbon is good quality (unlike the shitty polysatin Ollie wrapped around his neck for that stupid Steampunk look). The fan is a wood and lace number, not a shitty Amazon plastic clacky fan that a two-bit drag queen uses. And the fake blood is stage blood, probably Mehron (not the neon red stuff you get in a Halloween shop) and there's multiple bottles of it - and it won't wash out, so Contra can't use any of these pieces again. Also the outfit is both cohesive (there's no doubt it's Marie Antoinette) and relevant to the topic being discussed.

Or to put it more succinctly: Contra wears Atelier Versace, Ollie demanded Contra returned the RTW Versace jumper he'd bought her after they split up.

I probably deserve puzzle pieces for this sperg (I think I'm starting to become the @Nykysnottrans of PhilosophyTube) but Ollie's terrible attempts at dressing his hulking hogbody really triggers me.
 
I do have a schizo theory that his stylist only took the job because they're struggling (money's tight at the moment, so less people are hiring stylists - even some fashion houses are getting in-house staff to put together "edits" for shoots), and they know Ollie has no taste or sense of style. Thus they hate Ollie and take it out on him by dressing him atrociously, because he won't know he looks terrible. The frequent use of outfits that literally do not fit his frame lends credence - unless Ollie's stylist is blind, they'd spot that a mile off (being a stylist is actually a skilled profession, you won't get anywhere unless you've got an eye for detail). I can absolutely see Ollie thought he looking banging in that shitty jumpsuit, because "oh it's all white and it's lace and it's low cut, so that's a sexy outfit" and didn't even consider he looked like he'd wrapped himself in his nan's net curtains (and why lace opera gloves?! You can't just put on opera gloves and declare yourself classy, they're only ever formalwear or fetishwear/fancy dress and so the outfit has to be one of those. No woman walks around in opera gloves).

My alternative theory is that Ollie's really tightfisted and sets a rock bottom budget for outfits, which has forced his stylist to resort to Nastygal and PrettyLittleThing. Compare this with the person he's skinwalking:

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AFAIK Contra doesn't hire stylists. This dress probably wasn't that expensive (although likely more expensive than Ollie's entire look) but it fits well and more importantly was styled well. That wig is an expensive lacefront that Contra likely had styled at a non-insignificant price. The ribbon is good quality (unlike the shitty polysatin Ollie wrapped around his neck for that stupid Steampunk look). The fan is a wood and lace number, not a shitty Amazon plastic clacky fan that a two-bit drag queen uses. And the fake blood is stage blood, probably Mehron (not the neon red stuff you get in a Halloween shop) and there's multiple bottles of it - and it won't wash out, so Contra can't use any of these pieces again. Also the outfit is both cohesive (there's no doubt it's Marie Antoinette) and relevant to the topic being discussed.

Or to put it more succinctly: Contra wears Atelier Versace, Ollie demanded Contra returned the RTW Versace jumper he'd bought her after they split up.

I probably deserve puzzle pieces for this sperg (I think I'm starting to become the @Nykysnottrans of PhilosophyTube) but Ollie's terrible attempts at dressing his hulking hogbody really triggers me.
I know nothing about fashion but I can tell the stuff looks bad on him.
 
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