Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

What does "getting it" mean? Having the virus in your body or being symptomatic? If the vaccine just impacts symptoms how does that affect transmission?
Basically asymptomatic people are less likely to shed the virus. However, it affects droplet-spread viruses (which typically NEED a sneeze, cough or spit) more than aerosolized viruses (where simply breathing can release microscopic viri).

If it reduced transmission by 75% I'd be hearing that number everywhere. The fact that pro vaccine source seem to have little data on it is a massive red flag that to me that either the impact on transmission is negligible or they just don't know the impact.
According to Pfizer, Moderna & J&J it starts at like 90% two weeks after transmission but drops to like 40-60% after 3-6 months.
Apparently J&J drops below 30% even sooner. This is also not taking into account evolutionary pressure, where successive generations of viri get better and better at spreading in spite of the hosts defenses.

Of course, "transmission" isn't a binary concept. Factors such as the amount of people present to available UV/sunlight, temp & humidity, to even what part of the body the viral load is (i.e. higher viral load in the nose or mouth spreads better than higher load in the lower lung).
 
Didn't like Dubya, and considering the new right not only hates him, but voted for a guy who mocked him for not preventing 9/11, you might be a bit out of date.
Wonder if it's the same people who are now screaming fo the God Emporer's head....
It's the lefties who love Bush and forever wars now.
I got told to go live in Saudi Arabia for being a "Muslim lover" because I was against the Iraq invasion, so no.

It wasn't lefties who shamed for me "Not supporting the troops".
Why do you think the same doctor wouldn't try and keep their job?
Because, and you can't seem to get this through your head, you're wanting me to trust some anime avatar'd stranger over someone who knows me and has helped me for over a decade. You want me to buy that story, you better have footage of her being threatened.
 
They sure do. I know you are an anti-vaxer so thus you're inept at logic, but vaccines help prevent you from getting it, which helps you from spreading it. They also help prevent transmission in general. It's really not a hard concept, I know you can get this. And yes, they're not 100% effective and I know autists like you have trouble comprehending things that aren't all or nothing, but even a 75% effectiveness helps.
75%? Try 0% and you'll be closer to the effectiveness of the COVID vaccines in preventing transmission, and the boosters are equally useless. All of the areas with the largest increases in infections are the ones with the highest vaccination rates vs. natural immunity.
 
75%? Try 0% and you'll be closer to the effectiveness of the COVID vaccines in preventing transmission, and the boosters are equally useless. All of the areas with the largest increases in infections are the ones with the highest vaccination rates vs. natural immunity.
0%? I know you claim to know more than doctors and scientists who study this for a living, but I will take their word for it over your uneducated, simpleton self's. What makes you think that your uneducated, spaztic brain knows more than doctors and scientists about this? Talk about being an arrogant narcissist
 
0%? I know you claim to know more than doctors and scientists who study this for a living, but I will take their word for it over your uneducated, simpleton self's. What makes you think that your uneducated, spaztic brain knows more than doctors and scientists about this? Talk about being an arrogant narcissist
Huh? The ineffectiveness of the vaccines in preventing transmission is well known now....the virus had already evolved to evade them by the time they were deployed.

These vaccines no longer have any meaningful effectiveness against preventing infection, which is why they now only mention preventing hospitalizations and deaths. IMO this is exactly how they should have been sold rather than the "95% effective against infection" horseshit, which was an obvious lie that anyone with a cursory understanding of infections diseases can easily debunk.

Thankfully we won't need them for much longer, though.
 
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Dude, nobody's said that in 20 years. Middle-aged people now we're teenagers then. Let it go.
WOW, now there's a statute of limitations? I don't wanna hear anything about "Democrats supported the KKK in the early 20th, so they're the party of racism and segregation now!". I DEFENITELY don't wanna hear Civil War shit either.

Also, waiting for you to plead your case as to why I should trust YOU over my long time doctor and provide proof that she was threatened with her license or job to recommend me the jab.
 
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Wow this truly is a dumpster fire thread.
I'm not taking the vaccine because the virus isn't a threat to me and I don't care about the people it is a threat to.
Deathfats, GRIDs "victims" and boomers get what they fucking deserve.
I will continue to wear a balaclava/gaiter everywhere however. It being socially acceptable to hide my identity from cameras/AI is a blessing in disguise.
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I will continue to wear a balaclava/gaiter everywhere however. It being socially acceptable to hide my identity from cameras/AI is a blessing in disguise.
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Wrong, everyone wearing masks is been used to train AI to recognize faces with limited information.

 
Update: Yes, women are more likely to be anti-vaccine then men.
Take with a minor grain of salt, though, as you should with any study basing its results on online identification.

EDIT: Lol literally a peer-reviewed article, cope & seethe
Certainly the pre-Covid-19 vaccination movement appeared to be more lead by female personalities (particularly Jenny McCarthy) than male ones: see this article shortly published (4 December 2020) before the mass rollout of the Covid-19 vaccines: https://archive.ph/n1gmy

However, in practice, women have been more likely to get the Covid-19 vaccine than men; just five months later, the New York Times reported on the stark difference between the two genders regarding vaccination uptake: https://archive.ph/kgAO7

Yet there has been a marked hesitancy among young woman (i.e. of reproductive age): https://archive.ph/Gkx06

I suspect the reason why women appeared to be more anti-vaccine than men before Covid-19 was the phenomenon of Facebook mums not wanting their kids to get (totally debunked) autism from childhood vaccinations, such as the MMR one. I believe I missed out on the whooping cough/pertussis one as a child due to similar fears in the 90s over that vaccine; thankfully I have since received it in my adulthood.
 
Dude, by this standard, you're as guilty as those violent assholes trying to "destroy whiteness." There's more to say your side is racist NOW.
"It's not cool to go around calling people niggers."=RACIST!

Are you even trying at this point?
I don't give a good goddamn about something from decades ago that isn't the case now. The demographics saying that are the ones getting the jab, so fuss at them.
I don't live my life by that. Try again. You want me to change my personal life, you better show me how it affects me personally, champ. You accuse my doctor of something, you better provide proof. You don't do any of that, I'll tell you to go fuck a cactus.
Like I said before, I'm not asking you to trust me.
Motherfucker, you're the one that told me "Do the right thing, refuse any further ones". You're the one that said my doctor was threatened to reccomend the jab to me. Don't walk back shit you said just a couple of pages back.
 
Wow this truly is a dumpster fire thread.
I'm not taking the vaccine because the virus isn't a threat to me and I don't care about the people it is a threat to.
Deathfats, GRIDs "victims" and boomers get what they fucking deserve.
I will continue to wear a balaclava/gaiter everywhere however. It being socially acceptable to hide my identity from cameras/AI is a blessing in disguise.
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Do you see any Boomers from here, Cipher?
What has Boomers given us?
This twisted game needs to be reset.
Imagine a world without Boomers.
That is what COVID-19 is for.
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I don't think people should bang prepubescent people. Outside of joking, I wouldn't say the AOC should be younger than 16.
Doesn't count once you've been called out on it. The fact this has been going on for days and you never felt the need to clarify that before indicates a lot about how you really feel.
 
Wrong, everyone wearing masks is been used to train AI to recognize faces with limited information.
Wow, the AI can identify me when I've covered my entire head and am wearing large reflective sunglasses? That sure is some Science™! I guess I should just give up on the idea and walk around without any of that
 
"It's not cool to go around calling people niggers."=RACIST!

Are you even trying at this point?

I don't live my life by that. Try again. You want me to change my personal life, you better show me how it affects me personally, champ. You accuse my doctor of something, you better provide proof. You don't do any of that, I'll tell you to go fuck a cactus.

Motherfucker, you're the one that told me "Do the right thing, refuse any further ones". You're the one that said my doctor was threatened to reccomend the jab to me. Don't walk back shit you said just a couple of pages back.
Dude, people are saying being white is a problem, and want them cut out of various parts of society, while atoning for dead people's behavior.

I told you to do something I thought you should do--does that mean I think you need to trust me by default? Not at all--it isn't walking things back. I mean, I told you why I felt you should do what I wanted.. I didn't just tell you to do it, since you were supposed to take me at my word.

Doesn't count once you've been called out on it. The fact this has been going on for days and you never felt the need to clarify that before indicates a lot about how you really feel.
Why would I clarify that when there was no reason? If I say you shouldn't do crack, do I need to say you shouldn't do meth? Apparently I would want you to.
 
Do you see any Boomers from here, Cipher?
What has Boomers given us?
This twisted game needs to be reset.
Imagine a world without Boomers.
That is what COVID-19 is for
Allah is truly wonderful for blessing us with this plague. Blessings be upon those pure of heart and Pure of Blood.
 
Dude, people are saying being white is a problem
Yea, retards are saying that. So what?
I told you to do something I thought you should do--does that mean I think you need to trust me by default?
Um, YES? You're asking me to make a drastic move based on what someone I never met said as opposed to going with the words of someone who's familiar with my health. Who in the black fuck do you think I'm going to go with?
I mean, I told you why I felt you should do what I wanted..
And you seriously thought that was good enough for me to upheaval things and disregard someone I legit trust?
 
Are you sure you want to go down this path? It isn't going so great for the other guy.
And what path is that? Not being horribly outraged because someone has an opinion that conforms with the law? I don't even agree with the nigger, or the law. I just don't see how this justifies bringing out the pitchforks and torches, particularly when a fair number of the people doing so are perfectly fine with trooning out kids.
 
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