Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Vince McMahon]

If you don't want me to criticize you for sounding like a sperg, don't mimick other spergs.

So, did three people with wrestling avatars just naturally show up in the same thread, all in favor of the same thing, and making the same arguments?

>this bitch tells me what to do

 

[Realistic Elephant]

Like you said, there needs to be more research into the connection. I'm seeing official propaganda suddenly telling me how smoking tons of marijuana during climate change causes bloodclots and heart attacks on young people right as the vaccine push is amped up in extremely misanthropic ways. Of course we're going to use it as an argument against vaccination. We just wanted this done normally, and the credibility of the experts has been called into question.

That's a big problem I've had with the US approach so far - it seems like adverse effects in children and young adults are just being ignored or handwaved away by a generic statement that "it's better than getting COVID" rather than actually investigating and concluding if that's the case.

In reality though, none of this would even be an issue if there weren't vaccine mandates to contend with. One of the huge issues with the mandates is there's basically no recourse if you suffer an adverse effect....you suffer the consequences, you pay for the medical bills, and maybe if you're lucky you'll get some crumbs from the government once they get around to approving your claim, if they ever do. This is a lot different than it was back when smallpox vaccines (for example) were mandated.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Again, what you are saying is not to trust them, you are saying to accept them without question because they are scientists. Science by its very nature is critical, you're not supposed to accept something just because another scientist or authority in your field says so. You can hopefully trust that another person performed their experiments and documented their conclusions, correctly and accurately but you still need to think critically, poke holes in the theory and question it. Galileo and Bruno might also have some thoughts on this particular issue.

And you are posting seriously outdated information - it is undisputed now that the COVID vaccines don't prevent infection or spread (although IIRC they do still reduce viral load after infection), so achieving herd immunity through vaccination is impossible. Higher vaccination rates do reduce the incidence of death and hospitalization, which does get you to herd immunity in a less damaging way and is a reason why they should be encouraged. Even if in theory we were able to vaccinate the entire world in the short span when the earliest strains were circulating, you'd still end up failing to achieve herd immunity through vaccination because this virus is endemic and evolving independently in animal populations.

I have not seen any evidence that myocarditis is 40x more common with COVID than vaccination. This is a legitimate concern which is why it is being investigated to determine if there is a causal relationship.

You are literally saying "trusting scientists and doctors about a vaccine is APPEAL TO AUTHORITY FALLACY! So instead listen to my uneducated, simpleton ass".

And no, they still help prevent infection and spread. It's just not 100%. I know you have crippling autism and thus can't comprehend things that aren't 0% or 100%, but there's a big difference.

And yes, there is quite a bit higher myocarditis from covid than from the vaccine. If you did your research and truly knew more about docs and scientists about a virus like you claim, you'd know that. Instead you think watching Fox News and Bitchute videos is "DOING MY RESEARCH" like a good little GOP simp. Even if there was no myocarditis, you'd just move the goal posts and instead use something else. That's how you conspiracy retards act.

Dude, you literally cannot see how the experts the TV, pharmacorps, and governments presented you with are wrong, and you can't conceive of the possibility of an authority figure lying to you. Sad.

You literally believe that 99% of doctors and scientists are willingly killing themselves and their families to keep the conspiracy going. You think that because your crippling autism has killed your human emotions that everyone else are unemotional sociopathic spazes like you.

Still waiting for those dead bodies, btw.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Still pretending I was talking about children? Jesus, dude. Just admit you're scared that you did something regrettable.

Niggerfaggot.

Haha. You want the youth pumped full of vaccines that are dangerous for them, and I want to pump the youth who are old enough full of cock. Who's the bad guy here?

 

[Realistic Elephant]

You are literally saying "trusting scientists and doctors about a vaccine is APPEAL TO AUTHORITY FALLACY! So instead listen to my uneducated, simpleton ass".

Yes, because I am right and you are wrong.

And no, they still help prevent infection and spread. It's just not 100%. I know you have crippling autism and thus can't comprehend things that aren't 0% or 100%, but there's a big difference.

And yes, there is quite a bit higher myocarditis from covid than from the vaccine. If you did your research and truly knew more about docs and scientists about a virus like you claim, you'd know that. Instead you think watching Fox News and Bitchute videos is "DOING MY RESEARCH" like a good little GOP simp. Even if there was no myocarditis, you'd just move the goal posts and instead use something else. That's how you conspiracy retards act.

No they don't. The vaccines are no longer having any impact on preventing transmission whatsoever - they're about as effective as lockdowns at this point. If you get vaccinated and exposed to COVID, you're still getting it and you're still spreading it.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Yes, because I am right and you are wrong.

What a good answer bro, you showed him.

 

[Vince McMahon]

also, no self-respecting woman would think about dating an anti-vaxxer

No self-respecting woman would be operating in "vaxxer"/"anti-vaxxer" paradigm.

No self-respecting woman would speak for other women.

 

[snailslime]

No self-respecting woman would be operating in "vaxxer"/"anti-vaxxer" paradigm.

No self-respecting woman would speak for other women.

mhm boomer male, you sure know what self-respecting women want.

 

[Vince McMahon]

mhm boomer male, you sure know what self-respecting women want.

I speak for the entirety of neither sex. I don't think you should either. Leave that to pedos who want to stuff children "full of cock".

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

No self-respecting woman would be operating in "vaxxer"/"anti-vaxxer" paradigm.

No self-respecting woman would speak for other women.

Update: Yes, women are more likely to be anti-vaccine then men.
Take with a minor grain of salt, though, as you should with any study basing its results on online identification.

EDIT: Lol literally a peer-reviewed article, cope & seethe

 

[Vince McMahon]

Update: Yes, women are more likely to be anti-vaccine then men.

Take with a minor grain of salt, though, as you should with any study basing its results on online identification.

I read the link as "tardonline" at first.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I read the link as "tardonline" at first.

I changed it to Sci-Hub for better access, FYI

 

[Vince McMahon]

And? He didn't start anything until she was off enough is what you're saying, correct?

 

[TheIrishRover]

No.

 

[Realistic Elephant]

What a good answer bro, you showed him.

Nothing more needs to be said, all I've written stands on its own. I've yet to see an actual response that isn't religious scientism.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Nothing more needs to be said, all I've written stands on its own. I've yet to see an actual response that isn't religious scientism.

You had decent arguments, but decided to throw a tantrum at the last minute. Sorry not sorry, but that was not a good look on you. Neither is this reply.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Yes, because I am right and you are wrong.

Yes, some uneducated GOP simping retard on Kiwi Farms knows more than doctors and scientists about a vaccine

No they don't. The vaccines are no longer having any impact on preventing transmission whatsoever - they're about as effective as lockdowns at this point. If you get vaccinated and exposed to COVID, you're still getting it and you're still spreading it.

They sure do. I know you are an anti-vaxer so thus you're inept at logic, but vaccines help prevent you from getting it, which helps you from spreading it. They also help prevent transmission in general. It's really not a hard concept, I know you can get this. And yes, they're not 100% effective and I know autists like you have trouble comprehending things that aren't all or nothing, but even a 75% effectiveness helps.

Pretending I didn't address your points won't make others think it's true.

Ironic coming from the simpleton who says there's tens of millions dead but can't show us where the dead bodies are.

 

[AnOminous]

Ironic coming from the simpleton who says there's tens of millions dead but can't show us where the dead bodies are.

Remember the 20 gorillion!

 

[Kermit Jizz]

vaccines help prevent you from getting it, which helps you from spreading it

What does "getting it" mean? Having the virus in your body or being symptomatic? If the vaccine just impacts symptoms how does that affect transmission?

And yes, they're not 100% effective and I know autists like you have trouble comprehending things that aren't all or nothing, but even a 75% effectiveness helps.

Is there an actual number floating around? I've never seen anything in depth on how it affects transmission, just "it helps".

If it reduced transmission by 75% I'd be hearing that number everywhere. The fact that pro vaccine source seem to have little data on it is a massive red flag that to me that either the impact on transmission is negligible or they just don't know the impact.

Remember the 20 gorillion!

*16 gorillion

 

[Wormy]

What same people? The boomer right loves these vaccines.

As someone else here wisely said "When senior citizens are saying "Let's Go Brandon", you can kindly drop the notion that you're being young and edgy counter culture types. "

Your doctor's career depends on pushing these.

Why YES, of course!

The doctor I've seen for over 11 years now, who's seen me through said a dangerous blot clot, my hypertension issues, injury to my right leg, and all manner of weight management didn't reccomend that vax because she was concerned about my lifelong breathing issues, NOOOOOOOOO, it was all because some cartoon villain guy in a suit pointed a gun at her and said "you will give this patient the Moderna vax, or you can kiss your liscense goodbye". I should TOTALLY trust my health to some anime avatar rando on fucking Kiwi Farms over her! /sneed

Geezus pete, you people...

Besides, with all the other issues I listed, you're still hurting yourself and others by getting it

How? You an immunologist? You a respiratory therapist? What's your credentials to get me to tell my doctor to to fuck off? They better be good, sunshine.

I don't like the Corporatocracy oppressing us forever, and like what men like? That'll be a boring thread.

Bullshit. You're the same bunch that sang the praises of Blackwater and Haliburton back in the George Dubya days, now all of a sudden you're trying to paint yourself as valiant anti-corporate defenders when just a decade ago, you'd have told me to move to North Korea or Cuba if I hated corporations so much.