Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Nobue]

Alright, can you show where the criteria said "No Caucasians"?

On matters of my health, YES, unless you come in with equal experience with my situation and my previous conditions.

Yes, because you're saying you know my health better than her and also levied a serious accusation against her.

And don't give me this "higher caste" whining. It's called training Do you go to a mechanic when your car has trouble, or do you just ask any rando on the street to pop the hood and fix it? Or are mechanics too beholden to Big Auto to be trustworthy?

Federal judge halts loan forgiveness program for farmers of color

Minority farmers say they have been unfairly denied government assistance for decades.

www.cbsnews.com

Did my mechanic do something to betray my trust? Is he being pressured to do unnecessary or harmful work on my car?

 

[Wormy]

have you seriously never been to a mechanic that gives you a bullshit quote that is multiple times higher than a different mechanic?

A couple of times sure. Then I found one that knew what he was doing and was good to me on price. Happy ending.

have you seriously never been to a doctor who tells you that there is nothing modern medicine can do, and had to get a second opinion that easily solved your problem?

Yes, but then I did some actual looking and searching and guess what, I found specialists who did give me accurate information. My general practitioner has batted 1000.

have you seriously NEVER had any experience with any authority figures acting with gross malfeasance?

I have. But I didn't go "ALL EXPERTS ARE FRAUDS! I"M TRUSTING RANDOM STRANGERS NOW!" I simply looked for people who do right by me, and I found them.

if you aren't a teenager i seriously question your ability to navigate the world as an adult

Says the guy wondering why I didn't just give up on all professionals because I ran into rotten apples.

 

[Wormy]

Federal judge halts loan forgiveness program for farmers of color

Minority farmers say they have been unfairly denied government assistance for decades.

www.cbsnews.com

Alright, fair point, but that's more of a dumbass government program that is being halted. Justice is served for now.

Did my mechanic do something to betray my trust? Is he being pressured to do unnecessary or harmful work on my car?

So you know what the adult thing to do when they betray your trust is? You find another professional who won't bone you. You don't go "All mechanics are scum!" and just trust anybody to work on your several thousand dollar means of transport.

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

A couple of times sure. Then I found one that knew what he was doing and was good to me on price. Happy ending.

Yes, but then I did some actual looking and searching and guess what, I found specialists who did give me accurate information. My general practitioner has batted 1000.

I have. But I didn't go "ALL EXPERTS ARE FRAUDS! I"M TRUSTING RANDOM STRANGERS NOW!" I simply looked for people who do right by me, and I found them.

Says the guy wondering why I didn't just give up on all professionals because I ran into rotten apples.

look dude i dunno what retarded phantoms you're trying to joust but the fact of the matter is, blindly appealing to authority is not just dumb, it's actively harmful to anyone doing so. experts are important repositories of knowledge but the application of that knowledge, and even the knowledge itself, cannot be trusted. that does not mean it should not factor into your decisions, but you have to be a fool to think that experts will ever solve specific problems unless they are under direct scrutiny for every step of the problem solving process. if you're listening to a doctor who isn't on your payroll, or listening to a mechanic that doesn't have your car in the shop, you are legitimately no better off than listening to a random person on the street

if you're incapable of looking at this in a multi-faceted manner and can't come to the conclusion that people in positions of granted expertise sitting in an ivory tower have no motivation or real reason to speak about certain issues with anything but broad strokes, then i've got a bridge to sell you

 

[Nobue]

Alright, fair point, but that's more of a dumbass government program that is being halted. Justice is served for now.

So you know what the adult thing to do when they betray your trust is? You find another professional who won't bone you. You don't go "All mechanics are scum!" and just trust anybody to work on your several thousand dollar means of transport.

Doesn't matter if it's being halted in this case. This garbage is happening more and more as government at all levels becomes increasingly obsessed with equity.

Sure, you find another mechanic--one who isn't pushing whatever they're being coerced into. Or, one who'll back off on the matter when told to.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I gave you other articles, as you know

They just happened to miscalculate a bunch of them in a completely convenient way? I also remember how decades of mask research were overturned when it was convenient. Lockdowns also wouldn't hurt the economy, mental health or childhood development. Printing up a quarter of the dollars in existence in a year also wouldn't lead to high infusion.

Lol no you didn't. At least not about the side effects. You're just assblasted that I destroyed your retarded claims and you are too stubborn to admit I was right and your simpleton brain was wrong.

How did them admitting the numbers were lower benefit them? You still haven't explained how that made them look good. If anything, that makes the government look bad. Again, I know you are a simpleton who believes everything Alex Jonesa and his GOP boomer overlords tells him, but your reasoning and logic skills are seriously inept as hell. I am calling BS on you being a programmer because anything you wrong would not work based on your logic skills

You have nothing to back up your claims and you yourself even admitted you refuse to believe any source from a scientist or doctor or that says vaccines are safe. You've literally done the opposite of the scientific method. You want the vaccines to be super duper dangerous to fulfill your conspiracy fetish and refuse to believe anything that isn't like that. You're just another simpleton autistic spaz on Kiwi Farms

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

Lol no you didn't. At least not about the side effects. You're just assblasted that I destroyed your retarded claims and you are too stubborn to admit I was right and your simpleton brain was wrong.

How did them admitting the numbers were lower benefit them? You still haven't explained how that made them look good. If anything, that makes the government look bad. Again, I know you are a simpleton who believes everything Alex Jonesa and his GOP boomer overlords tells him, but your reasoning and logic skills are seriously inept as hell. I am calling BS on you being a programmer because anything you wrong would not work based on your logic skills

well it really begs the question why you're pointing out the government and experts admitting they lied about things and trying to somehow construe it as a sign that they are more trustworthy, i would say that it really proves his point and that you're trying to play some kind of game to uphold preconceptions instead of actually trying to come to a mediated conclusion

 

[Wormy]

if you're listening to a doctor who isn't on your payroll

The doctors I listen to are, however.

or listening to a mechanic that doesn't have your car in the shop

The mechanic I go to has.

if you're incapable of looking at this in a multi-faceted manner and can't come to the conclusion that people in positions of granted expertise sitting in an ivory tower have no motivation or real reason to speak about certain issues with anything but broad strokes, then i've got a bridge to sell you

No real motivation except my money? Or someone being a human being and actually getting to know and give a shit about their patient.

Wow, and you accused ME of being a teenager.

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

The doctors I listen to are, however.

The mechanic I go to has.

No real motivation except my money? Or someone being a human being and actually getting to know and give a shit about their patient.

Wow, and you accused ME of being a teenager.

i'm not really sure what you're trying to get at here besides just saying that since you've never experienced specific problems then it means those problems don't exist. that's pretty foolish.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

well it really begs the question why you're pointing out the government and experts admitting they lied about things and trying to somehow construe it as a sign that they are more trustworthy, i would say that it really proves his point and that you're trying to play some kind of game to uphold preconceptions instead of actually trying to come to a mediated conclusion

The better question is why do you think they lied and just didn't miscalculate? You conspiracy simpletons vastly underestimate how hard it is to keep a secret. Everything is a conspiracy with you retards, a spade is never a spade.

Then again, you're a 2021 join date with a username that contains the n-bomb, so you being an uneducated simpleton retard isn't too shocking. Go back to /pol/ with the other conspiracy believing simpletons

look dude i dunno what retarded phantoms you're trying to joust but the fact of the matter is, blindly appealing to authority is not just dumb, it's actively harmful to anyone doing so. experts are important repositories of knowledge but the application of that knowledge, and even the knowledge itself, cannot be trusted. that does not mean it should not factor into your decisions, but you have to be a fool to think that experts will ever solve specific problems unless they are under direct scrutiny for every step of the problem solving process. if you're listening to a doctor who isn't on your payroll, or listening to a mechanic that doesn't have your car in the shop, you are legitimately no better off than listening to a random person on the street

if you're incapable of looking at this in a multi-faceted manner and can't come to the conclusion that people in positions of granted expertise sitting in an ivory tower have no motivation or real reason to speak about certain issues with anything but broad strokes, then i've got a bridge to sell you

So you think that you, despite being uneducated and an obvious simpleton retard, know more about a vaccine and virus than doctors? What's it like being so narcissistic? People should listen to their doctors and not you, because you have no credentials or qualifications and are an uneducated, simpleton retard who hates educated people and vaccines and is stupid enough to believe every conspiracy he sees on /pol/. You probably believe Q, too.

 

[Wormy]

i'm not really sure what you're trying to get at here besides just saying that since you've never experienced specific problems then it means those problems don't exist. that's pretty foolish.

I did experience them, can you not read? The difference is that I didn't stamp my feet and go "All experts are corrupt and shit! I only trust randos online now!" I went and found better people that handled MY situations better.

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

The better question is why do you think they lied and just didn't miscalculate? You conspiracy simpletons vastly underestimate how hard it is to keep a secret. Everything is a conspiracy with you retards, a spade is never a spade.

Then again, you're a 2021 join date with a username that contains the n-bomb, so you being an uneducated simpleton retard isn't too shocking. Go back to /pol/ with the other conspiracy believing simpletons

when you are wrong about something, and miscalculate, that erodes trust in the system and the methodologies involved. there is no conspiracy, and i have no clue why you seem to think i'm taking that position, it's just basic rational problem solving. when a mechanic fucks up your car, you don't go to the same mechanic again, even if you've gone to them for years and trust them. nothing more, nothing less.

the fact that you have to resort to personal attacks because you know you don't have any other avenues of recourse says more than anything i possibly could on the topic

 

[Nobue]

Lol no you didn't. At least not about the side effects. You're just assblasted that I destroyed your retarded claims and you are too stubborn to admit I was right and your simpleton brain was wrong.

How did them admitting the numbers were lower benefit them? You still haven't explained how that made them look good. If anything, that makes the government look bad. Again, I know you are a simpleton who believes everything Alex Jonesa and his GOP boomer overlords tells him, but your reasoning and logic skills are seriously inept as hell. I am calling BS on you being a programmer because anything you wrong would not work based on your logic skills

You have nothing to back up your claims and you yourself even admitted you refuse to believe any source from a scientist or doctor or that says vaccines are safe. You've literally done the opposite of the scientific method. You want the vaccines to be super duper dangerous to fulfill your conspiracy fetish and refuse to believe anything that isn't like that. You're just another simpleton autistic spaz on Kiwi Farms

Sure I did.

These numbers are being studied by outside groups, and with Omicron the lies are falling apart as the public is losing patience. These people have to start telling some truth, or all their lies will be exposed. If they're a little honest now, they can still get a lot of gullible people to keep believing it

It's like war propaganda--they don't deny EVERY loss, since nobody would believe it, but they start telling a little more truth as reality becomes undeniable.

Dude, still going on about boomers in the GOP? Aren't they supposedly the most vaccinated group?

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

I did experience them, can you not read? The difference is that I didn't stamp my feet and go "All experts are corrupt and shit! I only trust randos online now!" I went and found better people that handled MY situations better.

well then i don't understand what the problem is. you should understand my point perfectly, then.

So you think that you, despite being uneducated and an obvious simpleton retard, know more about a vaccine and virus than doctors? What's it like being so narcissistic? People should listen to their doctors and not you, because you have no credentials or qualifications and are an uneducated, simpleton retard who hates educated people and vaccines and is stupid enough to believe every conspiracy he sees on /pol/. You probably believe Q, too.

what makes you think i'm not educated on the topic, or that i don't know any experts? have you considered the possibility that those experts hold the same position i do?

 

[Wormy]

well then i don't understand what the problem is. you should understand my point perfectly, then.

The problem is me being told that my doctor is doing wrong by me without any evidence.

 

[Nobue]

You conspiracy simpletons vastly underestimate how hard it is to keep a secret.

Aren't we talking about secrets now?

I did experience them, can you not read? The difference is that I didn't stamp my feet and go "All experts are corrupt and shit! I only trust randos online now!" I went and found better people that handled MY situations better.

Who says we're trusting random internet weirdoes? We aren't talking about 5G and Secret Kennedys. We're telling you why we're skeptical and why.

You guys keep assuming we're just listening to people. Could this be projection?

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

The problem is me being told that my doctor is doing wrong by me without any evidence.

i'm not really sure what you're getting at here either. if you're trying to argue that someone in an ivory tower is functionally the same as your trusted general practictioner then you're missing the point entirely. whether that's through a lack of clarity or a willful ignorance of reality is besides the point

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

when you are wrong about something, and miscalculate, that erodes trust in the system and the methodologies involved. there is no conspiracy, and i have no clue why you seem to think i'm taking that position, it's just basic rational problem solving. when a mechanic fucks up your car, you don't go to the same mechanic again, even if you've gone to them for years and trust them. nothing more, nothing less.

the fact that you have to resort to personal attacks because you know you don't have any other avenues of recourse says more than anything i possibly could on the topic

I resort to personal attacks because you anti-vaxers are delusional. You think everything is a conspiracy. You legit think that you know more about a virus and vaccine than people who have devoted their lives to studying it, despite you being the same people who are proudly uneducated and ignorant.

what makes you think i'm not educated on the topic, or that i don't know any experts? have you considered the possibility that those experts hold the same position i do?

They don't because they're telling people to get the vaccine. You're likely uneducated because you're an anti-vaxer on Kiwi Farms who thinks listening to experts in their fields is a dumb thing because your spaztic ass knows better than they do.

Sure I did.

These numbers are being studied by outside groups, and with Omicron the lies are falling apart as the public is losing patience. These people have to start telling some truth, or all their lies will be exposed. If they're a little honest now, they can still get a lot of gullible people to keep believing it

It's like war propaganda--they don't deny EVERY loss, since nobody would believe it, but they start telling a little more truth as reality becomes undeniable.

Dude, still going on about boomers in the GOP? Aren't they supposedly the most vaccinated group?

No you didn't. More lying from you, just like when you lie about why you're at the playground.

The government would have no reason to lie about vaccinated numbers. They want the vaccine to succeed, right? They would want to undercount the number if anything, to push more people to get vaccinated to reach herd immunity levels. Now, I know you're uneducated so you don't know what herd immunity is, but look it up. So again, I have thoroughly destroyed your Alex Jones level conspiracy talking points.

You're obviously a GOP fan. GOPers are the most anti-vax. You also are admittedly uneducated and literally have said that you know more about this than doctors and scientists, despite the fact you're proud to be uneducated and intentionally ignorant. You also have been confirmed to have debilitating autism and have the worldview of a boomer. The future is now, old man.

 

[Wormy]

Who says we're trusting random internet weirdoes? We aren't talking about 5G and Secret Kennedys. We're telling you why we're skeptical and why.

You guys keep assuming we're just listening to people. Could this be projection?

Because you demanded I listen to YOU and refuse treatment even if the doctor who I've known a hell of a lot longer than your ass recommends it. "Do the right thing"

if you're trying to argue that someone in an ivory tower is functionally the same as your trusted general practictioner then you're missing the point entirely. whether that's through a lack of clarity or a willful ignorance of reality is besides the point

Maybe they are. Maybe they ain't. I wouldn't know, because they're not who I'm going to in matters relating to my health.

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

I resort to personal attacks because you anti-vaxers are delusional. You think everything is a conspiracy. You legit think that you know more about a virus and vaccine than people who have devoted their lives to studying it, despite you being the same people who are proudly uneducated and ignorant.


They don't because they're telling people to get the vaccine. You're likely uneducated because you're an anti-vaxer on Kiwi Farms who thinks listening to experts in their fields is a dumb thing because your spaztic ass knows better than they do.


No you didn't. More lying from you, just like when you lie about why you're at the playground.

The government would have no reason to lie about vaccinated numbers. They want the vaccine to succeed, right? They would want to undercount the number if anything, to push more people to get vaccinated to reach herd immunity levels. Now, I know you're uneducated so you don't know what herd immunity is, but look it up. So again, I have thoroughly destroyed your Alex Jones level conspiracy talking points.

You're obviously a GOP fan. GOPers are the most anti-vax. You also are admittedly uneducated and literally have said that you know more about this than doctors and scientists, despite the fact you're proud to be uneducated and intentionally ignorant. You also have been confirmed to have debilitating autism and have the worldview of a boomer. The future is now, old man.

i really hope you understand how completely unhinged you sound right now. if the only way you can back up your claims is to bludgeon people with stretched assumptions about their political opinions then you've pretty much just proved to everyone reading this post that you're guilty of every single thing you're accusing other people of being