Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[nigga that crab pollack]

Maybe they are. Maybe they ain't. I wouldn't know, because they're not who I'm going to in matters relating to my health.

and yet you're responding to the same level of uncertainty on others behalf with derision

 

[Wormy]

and yet you're responding to the same level of uncertainty on others behalf with derision

Get this through your head, cookiepuss; I speak only for ME. I look out for me and mine, and that's it. That's one reason I oppose a vax mandate and have the stance of "if your ass wants to take the chance without the vax, then godspeed." I've taken it on recommendation, it's done fine for me, and if she recommends a booster, I'm doing that too. I don't give two drops of piss in an ocean of piss what a talking head, an essential oils quack, internet rando, or similar has to say about it.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

i really hope you understand how completely unhinged you sound right now. if the only way you can back up your claims is to bludgeon people with stretched assumptions about their political opinions then you've pretty much just proved to everyone reading this post that you're guilty of every single thing you're accusing other people of being

You're the one who is saying not to trust experts in their field and I am the unhinged one? Go back to /pol/ with the other conspiracy believing simpletons

 

[Nobue]

No you didn't. More lying from you, just like when you lie about why you're at the playground.

The government would have no reason to lie about vaccinated numbers. They want the vaccine to succeed, right? They would want to undercount the number if anything, to push more people to get vaccinated to reach herd immunity levels. Now, I know you're uneducated so you don't know what herd immunity is, but look it up. So again, I have thoroughly destroyed your Alex Jones level conspiracy talking points.

You're obviously a GOP fan. GOPers are the most anti-vax. You also are admittedly uneducated and literally have said that you know more about this than doctors and scientists, despite the fact you're proud to be uneducated and intentionally ignorant. You also have been confirmed to have debilitating autism and have the worldview of a boomer. The future is now, old man.

They want higher numbers to demoralize holdouts into giving up because there won't be enough people left to resist their efforts.

Remember how people started protesting and defying lockdowns, and we kept hearing about how they were a tiny minority and nobody supported them? Then a couple weeks later, most places started rolling then back?

The same GOP that's largely done nothing to resist vaccine mandates? Why are people in love with DeSantis for actually doing anything?

I've literally done the opposite of admit to being uneducated. I've told you about my education.

Your insults clearly aren't working on us. Does this mean you're indirectly admitting that you cave to peer pressure so easily?

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

You're the one who is saying not to trust experts in their field and I am the unhinged one? Go back to /pol/ with the other conspiracy believing simpletons

if you trust experts in a field, it means you probably have never achieved a level of expertise in any field to understand how much conjecture and groupthink is involved in coming to "group consensus" and how dangerous following that line of reasoning is when the discussion involves more than minor technical matters. trust requires a demonstration of that trust, and simply assuming trust without a reason to do so is straight-up dangerous. that's been demonstrated through thousands of years of human history and plenty of times in the last half-century alone, in everything from aerospace, manufacturing, engineering, computer science, and basic worker/boss dynamics. if you want to trust experts then that's your prerogative, but trust is not something you should hand out willy-nilly without a clear demonstration of methodology and individual intent.

Get this through your head, cookiepuss; I speak only for ME. I look out for me and mine, and that's it. That's one reason I oppose a vax mandate and have the stance of "if your ass wants to take the chance without the vax, then godspeed." I've taken it on recommendation, it's done fine for me, and if she recommends a booster, I'm doing that too. I don't give two drops of piss in an ocean of piss what a talking head, an essential oils quack, internet rando, or similar has to say about it.

then why are you attacking other people for holding positions of similar conviction

 

[Wormy]

then why are you attacking other people for holding positions of similar conviction

Because in case you haven't noticed, they want to heap shit on me for that decision, accusing me of everything short of the Tate/LaBianca murders, and as demonstrated here they demand I do what they say instead of people I trust. You think I ain't gonna say something about that?

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

Because in case you haven't noticed, they want to heap shit on me for that decision and as demonstrated here they demand I do what they say instead of people I trust. You think I ain't gonna say something about that?

if you were really confident in the decision that you made, you wouldn't be defending it like you are. i'll heap shit on your decision too, you're a moron for doing something because your doctor told you to do it, simply because your doctor was told to tell their patients the same thing from an authoritative structure no different from the one you have with your general practictioner. if you want to take the position that it was a nuanced decision made by balancing the risks and the benefits, then that's perfectly fine, but the way that you've gone about arguing for your choice clearly shows that there wasn't anything more than trust by virtue alone involved in that decision.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

if you trust experts in a field, it means you probably have never achieved a level of expertise in any field to understand how much conjecture and groupthink is involved in coming to "group consensus" and how dangerous following that line of reasoning is when the discussion involves more than minor technical matters. trust requires a demonstration of that trust, and simply assuming trust without a reason to do so is straight-up dangerous. that's been demonstrated through thousands of years of human history and plenty of times in the last half-century alone, in everything from aerospace, manufacturing, engineering, computer science, and basic worker/boss dynamics. if you want to trust experts then that's your prerogative, but trust is not something you should hand out willy-nilly without a clear demonstration of methodology and individual intent.

If you don't trust experts in a field and you don't have any knowledge in that field, then you're a complete retard. You legitimately are saying to not trust 99% of doctors and scientists world wide, but instead to listen to you because you know more than they do, despite the fact you are uneducated and a simpleton. No one human on earth knows everything about everything, but an intelligent person knows when they don't know about a subject so they listen to those that do. You, however, are unintelligent so you think you know everything about everything even though you're uneducated and a simpleton.

They want higher numbers to demoralize holdouts into giving up because there won't be enough people left to resist their efforts.

No they don't. They want to reach herd immunity levels and artifically making them higher makes the vaccines look worse since herd immunity hasn't been reached. Seriously, do you have a handler? You seem really, really low IQ.

Remember how people started protesting and defying lockdowns, and we kept hearing about how they were a tiny minority and nobody supported them? Then a couple weeks later, most places started rolling then back?

They rolled them back because numbers went down. Again, I know you are a simpleton who watches too much Alex Jones so you think everything is a conspiracy, but it's not.

The same GOP that's largely done nothing to resist vaccine mandates? Why are people in love with DeSantis for actually doing anything?

You are a huge GOP simp which is why you are blindly defending everything they do.

I've literally done the opposite of admit to being uneducated. I've told you about my education.

No you didn't. You just said you spoke 4 languages and are a programmer, which I find hard to believe based on how much of a simpleton you are. Neither of those requires an education and since you keep dodging it, it's obvious you are uneducated.

Your insults clearly aren't working on us. Does this mean you're indirectly admitting that you cave to peer pressure so easily?

No, my insults are legit truth. You are uneducated and you are a simpleton. You are just another GOP-simping right-wing tard on Kiwi Farms. Go back to watching your Fox News like a good little Republican. You legit believe everything is a conspiracy and nothing is ever as it seems. This is serious concern on my part... have you ever had a mental evaluation? You seriously seem to have schizophrenia.

 

[Wormy]

i'll heap shit on your decision too, you're a moron for doing something because your doctor told you to do

Yea, I'm totally a moron for trusting the word of someone who's been good for my health and seen me through multiple over situations. Totally stupid.

simply because your doctor was told to tell their patients the same thing from an authoritative structure

What was she told? You got evidence of this conversation? Email to her? Hardcopy document? Recording of it?

if you want to take the position that it was a nuanced decision made by balancing the risks and the benefits, then that's perfectly fine

Yea, I did, because she's done nothing but right by me. But only a stupid person trusts someone who's made good things happen for them, right?

but the way that you've gone about arguing for your choice clearly shows that there wasn't anything more than trust by virtue alone involved in that decision.

It's called a track record, dumbshit! She's proven to me she's worth listening to because every time I have, it's worked out to my benefit. GODDAMN, why is this so hard for you fuckers to get through your thick skulls?!

 

[AbyssGazer]

I took the vaccine for the simple reason that I know otherwise healthy people, at least seemingly so, who got really sick from covid. However I don't know anyone who got sick from the vaccine, and I waited quite a while just to see if they would be before I took the shot.

I'm far from a science egghead and I don't feel like trusting any source of information blindly. Basic anecdotal observation with my own eyes is as good as it gets for me.

 

[Nobue]

No they don't. They want to reach herd immunity levels and artifically making them higher makes the vaccines look worse since herd immunity hasn't been reached. Seriously, do you have a handler? You seem really, really low IQ.

They rolled them back because numbers went down. Again, I know you are a simpleton who watches too much Alex Jones so you think everything is a conspiracy, but it's not.

You are a huge GOP simp which is why you are blindly defending everything they do.

No you didn't. You just said you spoke 4 languages and are a programmer, which I find hard to believe based on how much of a simpleton you are. Neither of those requires an education and since you keep dodging it, it's obvious you are uneducated.


No, my insults are legit truth. You are uneducated and you are a simpleton. You are just another GOP-simping right-wing tard on Kiwi Farms. Go back to watching your Fox News like a good little Republican.

They don't care if they look good or not--the people who were going to get it got it right away. The goal is to pressure holdouts into getting it. Why do you think they tried to get people fired instead of convincing them to give in?

The numbers weren't dropping when that first started. Remember how Florida was going to become a graveyard?

What would you call an education then?

Remember how you got bitched out repeatedly by different people for not realizing that even the experts say the vaccines don't stop spread out transmission? Your info is out-of-date, and you're not even aware of it, even when it's widely reported by big, mainstream outlets. Maybe insulting people for being ignorant is a bad idea.

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

If you don't trust experts in a field and you don't have any knowledge in that field, then you're a complete retard. You legitimately are saying to not trust 99% of doctors and scientists world wide, but instead to listen to you because you know more than they do, despite the fact you are uneducated and a simpleton. No one human on earth knows everything about everything, but an intelligent person knows when they don't know about a subject so they listen to those that do. You, however, are unintelligent so you think you know everything about everything even though you're uneducated and a simpleton.

you just keep repeating the same thing over and over again, which is a lot more indicative of a simple mind than someone who is willing to raise questions. i like learning, and you're clearly against the concept and would prefer other people to do it for you. like, at least come up with new posts instead of just copy/pasting the same post over and over, you might actually raise a good point if you've got one rattling around in that skull of yours

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

I took the vaccine for the simple reason that I know otherwise healthy people, at least seemingly so, who got really sick from covid. However I don't know anyone who got sick from the vaccine, and I waited quite a while just to see if they would be before I took the shot.

I'm far from a science egghead and I don't feel like trusting any source of information blindly. Basic anecdotal observation with my own eyes is as good as it gets for me.

i have the exact opposite position, i know people who got sick from the vaccine, and when i got covid, it was pretty minor. i mean i got sicker with covid than they got from the vaccine, but if the experts say the vaccine doesn't even prevent you from getting sick then it's kind of a pointless decision to make anyways. i guess people see the differential between different people's anecdotal evidence and just default to the people above them in an authoritative power structure, and i've learned enough through a lot of different topics and fields that experts pretty much don't know anything more than what they can directly demonstrate.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

They don't care if they look good or not--the people who were going to get it got it right away. The goal is to pressure holdouts into getting it. Why do you think they tried to get people fired instead of convincing them to give in?

The numbers weren't dropping when that first started. Remember how Florida was going to become a graveyard?

What would you call an education then?

Remember how you got bitched out repeatedly by different people for not realizing that even the experts say the vaccines don't stop spread out transmission? Your info is out-of-date, and you're not even aware of it, even when it's widely reported by big, mainstream outlets. Maybe insulting people for being ignorant is a bad idea.

They do care if it looks good or not. If they say we are at herd immunity levels and the virus keeps spreading, it says the vaccine isn't working as well. Again, I know you admit to being inept at science, but this is a new low even for you.

Florida did have a ton of deaths until private businesses implemented mask and vaccine mandates, despite DeSantis, the man you simp for, saying otherwise.

An education would be an actual college education. Not looking at memes on Facebook posted by boomers. Especially when you are proudly anti-education and admit to hating scientists and doctors and claim you know more than they do.

Lol I got bitched out? Maybe by your fellow uneducated anti-vax spazes, but the CDC itself says they do prevent transmission. Again, I know you are completely inept at science, but if someone isn't infected, they can't spread it. I also know you claim the CDC is all in on the conspiracy because everything is a conspiracy.

Just admit you're wrong here, chump. And show me where these dead bodies are that you claim exist. Now, I know you admit to being worse than a 2nd grader at math, but I showed you the math and it's not hard to follow. Show me where these tens of millions of dead people from the vaccines are. Until you do, you are admitting I am right and your pedo ass is wrong

you just keep repeating the same thing over and over again, which is a lot more indicative of a simple mind than someone who is willing to raise questions. i like learning, and you're clearly against the concept and would prefer other people to do it for you. like, at least come up with new posts instead of just copy/pasting the same post over and over, you might actually raise a good point if you've got one rattling around in that skull of yours

What I say is truth, though. You actively are saying that doctors and scientists are wrong, and that you are right, despite the fact you have zero credentials or qualifications or education. You think watching anti-vax videos on Bitchute and boomer Facebook memes is as good as a medical degree when it comes to medicine. You're literally as much of an uneducated, proudly ignorant simpleton as it gets.

So why should we believe you over doctors and scientists? What do you know that they don't? Be specific here, chump

i have the exact opposite position, i know people who got sick from the vaccine, and when i got covid, it was pretty minor. i mean i got sicker with covid than they got from the vaccine, but if the experts say the vaccine doesn't even prevent you from getting sick then it's kind of a pointless decision to make anyways. i guess people see the differential between different people's anecdotal evidence and just default to the people above them in an authoritative power structure, and i've learned enough through a lot of different topics and fields that experts pretty much don't know anything more than what they can directly demonstrate.

Oh, you're one of those Republicans who actively hates formal education and think you know more than people about their chosen field of study because you have anecdotal evidence and read posts from /pol/. That explains why you're such a tard.

 

[Nobue]

They do care if it looks good or not. If they say we are at herd immunity levels and the virus keeps spreading, it says the vaccine isn't working as well. Again, I know you admit to being inept at science, but this is a new low even for you.

Florida did have a ton of deaths until private businesses implemented mask and vaccine mandates, despite DeSantis, the man you simp for, saying otherwise.

An education would be an actual college education. Not looking at memes on Facebook posted by boomers. Especially when you are proudly anti-education and admit to hating scientists and doctors and claim you know more than they do.

Lol I got bitched out? Maybe by your fellow uneducated anti-vax spazes, but the CDC itself says they do prevent transmission. Again, I know you are completely inept at science, but if someone isn't infected, they can't spread it.

You're assuming the vax fanatics care, or that the average person even pays attention. Look at how many people think the vaccines were always just to reduce symptoms. They forgot that wasn't the case the moment they were told to. I mean, you're even spouting out-of-date talking points.

The mask mandates that were largely ignored? That are doing nothing even in conjunction with vaccines in many "better" parts of the country?

I've been to college twice. Now I hate education, too? You keep adding things so you can get an own on others. Isn't that what small minds do?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

You're assuming the vax fanatics care, or that the average person even pays attention. Look at how many people think the vaccines were always just to reduce symptoms. They forgot that wasn't the case the moment they were told to. I mean, you're even spouting out-of-date talking points.

Again, I have shown you how that it would be bad to overestimate the vaccination numbers. You just refuse to believe anything is not a conspiracy.

What out of date talking points? The vaccine does help the spread. I know you have crippling autism which has infested your brain, but just because something isn't 100% doesn't mean it's 0%. Thank you for confirming you have severe autism, though

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Again, I know your crippling autism has made you unable to ever admit you were wrong, but just take the L here, son. You've gotten destroyed yet again.

The mask mandates that were largely ignored? That are doing nothing even in conjunction with vaccines in many "better" parts of the country?

They're not, though. In fact, the GOP governor you simp for got in trouble with the CDC for hoarding all of the experimental treatments for his unvaccinated buddies.

I've been to college twice. Now I hate education, too? You keep adding things so you can get an own on others. Isn't that what small minds do?

Twice? So you failed out? I am not shocked. You actively talk about how much you hate education and don't trust anyone with knowledge with a subject because your simpleton ass knows better than they do.

You just can't accept that someone knows something about a subject than you do. You know that knowing that you are not knowledgeable on a subject and thus deferring to experts is a sign of intelligence, and doing the opposite (which you are doing) is a sign of being severely stupid, right? Oh, wait, you don't know that. You just follow your cult leader Trump in pretending to know everything about everything. At least we know you don't have a fetish for obese, elderly conmen.

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

What I say is truth, though. You actively are saying that doctors and scientists are wrong, and that you are right, despite the fact you have zero credentials or qualifications or education. You think watching anti-vax videos on Bitchute and boomer Facebook memes is as good as a medical degree when it comes to medicine. You're literally as much of an uneducated, proudly ignorant simpleton as it gets.

So why should we believe you over doctors and scientists? What do you know that they don't? Be specific here, chump

no, i'm saying that you shouldn't trust what they have to say without a clear demonstration of the methodologies present in their decision making process. if they can do that, then their expertise is worth their weight in gold. but an expert by itself means nothing. this is basic heuristics, and i don't have to know anything to point out flaws in your thought process

if you have to rely on other people explaining things to you, then how do you know anything at all? every decision you make, why did you make it? did someone tell you to do it? if no - why are you doing it? why is someone in a daily mail article more trustworthy than some retard on bitchute? i know the answer to this, and you do too, but WHY do you know the answer?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

no, i'm saying that you shouldn't trust what they have to say without a clear demonstration of the methodologies present in their decision making process. if they can do that, then their expertise is worth their weight in gold. but an expert by itself means nothing. this is basic heuristics, and i don't have to know anything to point out flaws in your thought process

if you have to rely on other people explaining things to you, then how do you know anything at all? every decision you make, why did you make it? did someone tell you to do it? if no - why are you doing it? why is someone in a daily mail article more trustworthy than some retard on bitchute? i know the answer to this, and you do too, but WHY do you know the answer?

So then you've gone through the vaccine studies and have the credentials to understand and interpret them? I highly doubt that considering you're uneducated.

Understanding that someone knows more about something than you do is a sign of intelligence. You are just a good little Republican, though, and you guys think it's a sign of weakness but it's actually a sign of strength.

Now answer my question. Why should we believe you over doctors and medical scientists?

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

Oh, you're one of those Republicans who actively hates formal education and think you know more than people about their chosen field of study because you have anecdotal evidence and read posts from /pol/. That explains why you're such a tard.

i voted for obama and haven't voted since

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

So then you've gone through the vaccine studies and have the credentials to understand and interpret them? I highly doubt that considering you're uneducated.

Understanding that someone knows more about something than you do is a sign of intelligence. You are just a good little Republican, though, and you guys think it's a sign of weakness but it's actually a sign of strength.

Now answer my question. Why should we believe you over doctors and medical scientists?

you don't have the credentials either, so why should anybody listen to what you have to say?