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[behindyourightnow]

You don't need to know anything about genetics - they are blatantly saying that they are gonna "run those findings" by the transgender community to make sure they are okay with the results/interpretation of the results before publishing them. As if we do this for studies on depression, or ADHD, or narcissism, of borderline, or any other fucking topic.

Right, but I was talking about the study outcomes in particular, which seem suss.

I don’t think I have ever seen a “proof that transgenderism is heckin’ biological!!!” research paper that presented a clear and specific a priori hypothesis. It is always “let’s measure brains/look at genes until we find something, and then publish it because we will get more research funding and normies who don’t know better will eat it up.”

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"I lost all my friends because they decided to be friends with a transphobe." In other words, "I demanded that they unperson someone who expressed some minor wrongthink like 'lesbians should not be forced to suck girldick' or 'there are only two sexes' and my friends refused, so I stormed off. This is their fault somehow."

Anyway, I ran across this guy on Twitter (archiving is not working right now) and was curious at first because I actually thought it was a TERF parody account. It seems to be the real deal, though. His most amusing habit is posting a video of himself in replies as a way of "owning" anyone who calls him a male or disagrees with troon doctrine in some way. He posts the same video over and over like it is a sound refutation of "you are still a man." Except in usual AGP fashion, the video is terrifying:

It's only a 3-second loop, and yet in that short time you can already see the struggle between "maintaining the only facial angle in which I believe I look feminine" and "preening and swishing my head sexily like I think a female does." The latter wins out in the end.

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Thought the same thing. It writes like a female, and it makes far more sense that a girl would end up in this situation as opposed to an actual gay male. “Troon out with me so we can LARP as a gay couple OH NOES now I have found myself in the unfortunate situation of having to occupy the male role with a female partner who still gets to look and act girly, which makes me envious on several levels“ is a distinct possibility. Some fujo who trooned out has no love for girls happily being girls and certainly doesn’t want to have to act like a straight guy which generally means performing various services for her and reinforcing her self esteem and getting complained at for being insufficiently romantic.

It's because it only deals with the emotional aspect of it. If this was a bisexual dude with some sort of fetish, then you'd be hearing more about how the sex has gone bad and how she won't peg him anymore. This reads as a cheap romance novel you'd find in Asda ("Michael has gone away..."). I'm willing to put money on it being a case of two fujosis, where one went all in on the ~uwu smol soft ghey~ larp and one simply grew out of it.

 

[Unpaid Emotional Labourer]

It's because it only deals with the emotional aspect of it. If this was a bisexual dude with some sort of fetish, then you'd be hearing more about how the sex has gone bad and how she won't peg him anymore. This reads as a cheap romance novel you'd find in Asda ("Michael has gone away..."). I'm willing to put money on it being a case of two fujosis, where one went all in on the ~uwu smol soft ghey~ larp and one simply grew out of it.

Yes, you nailed it. The concerns and priorities are entirely female, and any and all expected male concerns and priorities are entirely absent.

Now the fujo who decided to go ahead and make anime real is a mess and her girlfriend is still intact and healthy. Waah.

Not to mention that quite fundamentally, the ONLY gay “man” you’d ever see legit not care if their boyfriend is male or female is female, herself.

 

[LetterlandMafia]

Not sure what exactly I’ve stumbled upon here:



Commies demanding gibs (again) notwithstanding, the website is odd. Here it is if you want to have a look: https://firmearteonline.com/collections/all

My favourite product is probably the anti anxiety magic spray. Heaven knows most of these people probably need it.

 

[behindyourightnow]

New survey out says troon extremists hurt the cause with people who otherwise support trans rights:

Left-wing guy who reported it is being attacked as a transphobe:
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I absolutely love this shit. Whenever anyone tries to gently point out, in the mildest language possible, how much normies are being alienated, they get eaten alive and accused of endorsing trans genocide, with all the TRAs climbing over each other to denounce them the hardest.

Keep going, guys. Keep ignoring the warnings and keep defending giant hulking male swimmers smashing records and rapists getting transferred to female prisons. I am sure if you yell loud enough, Mr and Mrs Middle America will all be on your side within a year or two!

Edit: I think part of what fascinates me is the huge disconnect between the random twitter TRAs, and the people whose job it is to think about this kind of thing for a living (and who therefore have a better sense of the reality of the situation).

There is clearly a lot of money going into this stuff from the top (as the existence and scope of the Transgender Law Center shows) and Ryan Grim's video itself talked about how some pro-trans laws were accomplished by lobbying politicians behind the scenes and then slipping in law changes secretly without widespread public knowledge.

And yet the average Twitter AGP does not seem to grasp any of that, and thinks that all the privileges he has suddenly received in the last few years are just a natural occurrence, and that things are just going to keep progressing in the same way no matter what (because that is what has happened so far!), so there is no need to tread carefully. There is a real "born on third base and thinks he hit a home run" feeling to all of it.

 

[YourFriendlyLurker]

Queen TERF has spoken
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This is where JKR and most other normies make huge mistake. There is no such shit as "gender", it doesn't exist in a physical world, only "sex" does. None of the animanls (and human in fact is rather a clever ape aka animal) have "gender". You either have a vagina or a dick, you are either male or female, everything else is just an excuse for mental illness or general failuire in life. As long as JKR and others claim that "gender" exists, they will be automatically involved into the discussion with shizos, which is fruitless because they are shizos. Why no one debates the hallucinations or beliefs of mentally ill in asylum? Because we know that they aren't real and those people are ill. Troons, alphabets, genders is the same, debating gender you indulge their fantasies that don't fucking exist, you just can't win this war.

The correct answer to that shit is that gender is as real as Harry Potter, it doesn't exist IRL. There is XY and XX, male and female. You born as one and you die as one, chopping your tits make you a titless femake, getting a wig and chopping your dick makes you dickless male. Sry for rant, but I hate that some people condsier JKR a pillar of sanity when she says utter bullshit like that.

 

[Opticana]

Well, fellow Kiwis, it may be time for a dedicated thread. Shuli has very helpfully posted a series of pieces he wrote explaining his transition. There are four of them and they involve a large amount of (literal) insane Talmudic sperging, so I may be updating this post a few times:

Genesis
The first article deals with the background to his transition. We learn that in common with most AGPs, Shuli's decision to remove his Hebrew National was the result of a deep seated desire to use the womens' restroom:

One day, five years earlier, I got off a plane in Detroit. As I walked to the baggage area, I passed by the bathrooms.
“I should go in the women’s room,” I thought to myself.
“WHAT?!” my thoughts continued. “Why would I think that? I’m a man, not a woman. Why should I go in the women’s room?” I shook my head and kept walking.
But then it happened again, and again, and again; every time I walked past a women’s bathroom, I’d think to myself, “I should go in there. WHAT?! That’s crazy! Am I crazy? I’m a man, not a woman!”
And then things got weirder. I’d be sitting in a
stall in the men’s room and then panic that I’d gone into the women’s room by mistake. I’d open the stall door to check for urinals, a sign I was in the right place, and sigh with relief.
Soon, I would panic every time I entered a public bathroom, even before I’d made it to the toilets. I’d turn around and walk outside to double-check that the sign said “MEN” not “WOMEN.” Eventually, I wouldn’t even make it inside – I’d have one hand on the door – before turning around and checking the sign, twice, thrice, sometimes four times, just to be sure I wasn’t accidentally going in the women’s bathroom.
Why? Was I losing my mind? There was no explanation. It made no sense. Nowadays, when people ask how I know I’m a woman and not simply a man with feminine interests, I tell them about my bathroom anxiety. Why did I crave, for years, to use the women’s bathroom? And why did I panic, for years, every time I entered a men’s room? Bathrooms have nothing to do with gender roles or stereotypes. Nothing to do with aesthetics. Nothing to do with hobbies or interests. It was a feeling deep inside me – a gut feeling telling me that I belonged in the women’s room, not the men’s room.

What really sealed the deal for him was that he liked playing as Peach in Mario Kart:

And then, in 2018, when I was 31 years old, that gut feeling finally told me what I’d been so afraid to admit: I am transgender. It was a normal, sunny day at our family’s timeshare in Florida. We were at a resort with a fancy pool, enjoying our last day of sunshine before returning to our wintery home in New England. Off in a corner, next to the gift shop, stood two cardboard sculptures of a cowboy and a cowgirl, with the faces cut out so tourists could take silly selfies.
My wife said, “Why don’t you take our toddler over, so I can take a fun photo of you two?” So I did, with a mischievous grin, and stuck my head through the cowgirl’s face. Wouldn’t that be funny, I thought, to have a photo of a cowgirl
with a massive beard?
“Come on!” my wife reprimanded me, with a tone of annoyance. “Stop fooling around! Can’t you be serious for once?”
So I obediently switched to the cowboy. And then it suddenly dawned on me; why had I pretended to be the cowgirl? I began to think back on recent memories of arguing with my wife over who got to be Princess Peach in video games, and my recent infatuation with Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Over the next few weeks, I was lost in thought, wondering, for the first time in my life, if I might be a transgender woman.

The Jewish Way in Terfs and Trooning
The second article discusses Shuli's relationship with his self-declared Orthodox Jewish faith:

Now, two years later, I am far more confident with my lot. I have come to understand Judaism as not only permitting but sanctifying, and even commanding, my gender transition. I feel more connected with my Jewish heritage than I ever have before. I have found so many Orthodox transgender friends and role models. With my rabbi’s fullest blessing, I daven on the women’s side at our local modern Orthodox synagogue, lead children’s services on holidays and Shabbat, and use the women’s bathroom. I am even, dare I say it, proud to be living life openly as an Orthodox Jewish transgender woman.

I don't know what community he's a member of, but based on his rabbi's treatment of him, I'm certain it's an "Open Orthodox" one, a movement that has been denounced by all non-far-left Orthodox bodies for (((subverting))) actual Jewish belief. The umbrella group for American Modern Orthodoxy, the Rabbinical Council of America, does not accept ordination from its seminary, Yeshivat Chovevei Torah, as qualification for membership. Anyway, we get a great crossover between Shuli and another Jewish troon, Abby Stein:

Stein originally hails from the Satmar Hasidic community, which is a pretty cowish place in and of itself. Abby may have gotten rid of his dick, wife, and religious observace, but he held on to the Satmar anti-zionist ideology, and now spends his time shilling BDS on Twitter. Since Stein was a rabbi before trooning out, Shuli decided to reach out to him in search of Jewish sources that dealt with trans issues (WARNING: PILPUL ALERT):

Spoiler

Our stories are extremely different, and she is no longer Orthodox. But she pointed me to Chassidic, kabbalistic, and Talmudic sources that completely blew my mind: a teaching from the 18th century Chassidic master Rabbi Yechiel Michael of Zloczow that Isaac Avinu was born with a male body and a female soul; medieval kabbalistic sources about a man reincarnating in the body of a woman and about the need for all human beings to be simultaneously male and female; a midrash in the Talmud about Dinah bas Leah’s sex being changed from male to female while she was still in the womb; and more. These sources blew my mind, because I had thought that no pre-feminist Jewish writings had anything to say about trans people, let alone affirming the complexity and mutability of Biblical figures’ sex and gender! And yet, there it is, loud and clear, in an 18th century Chassidic text: “It is known, according to the sod [mysticism] of reincarnation, that at times a female would be in a male body, because for reasons of gilgul [the cycling of souls], the soul of a female would come to be in a male.”

Alright, let's break this down. Aside from the fact that no actual Chassid would pay any attention to someone unironically using the phrase "Chassidic master", this is masking two important points. Firstly, all of the sources cited, being pre-modern religious thinkers who were conservative even by the standards of their eras, would have viewed troons as abominable homosexual perverts worthy of stoning. Hell, the Talmud concludes that a man is (technically) liable for the death penalty if he penetrates himself (yes, this is an actual passage). Do you really think they'd embrace troonism?

Secondly, and to go to the heart of the matter, this is ignoring the motivation for all of those statements. Most pre-modern Jewish thinkers, as well as most pre-moderns in general, considered women as inferior, flawed versions of men. A man would be reincarnated in the body of a woman as punishment for sins committed in a previous life. Even Abby Stein has to admit this on the source sheet Shuli links to:

Sometimes a man may reincarnate into the body of a woman because of a sin, (cultural context) or something similar. This woman who has received the soul of a man will not be able to conceive and become pregnant.

Oh, what's that (cultural context), you ask? Well, the original Hebrew text, censored by Stein, reads "because of a sin such as homosexual intercourse". But this writer would totally support troonism you guys!

Likewise, Dinah's sex was changed to female because a male child would have resulted in her mother Leah having a greater share in the ancestry of Jacob's children that actually counted - his sons. Not to be too woke, but these sources aren't affirmations of trannies - they're affirmations of sexism and misogyny. On the other hands, MtFs are all about that, so who knows.

Shuli Shoahs His Dick and Denies it
His actual trooning process is the subject of the third article. There are several classic AGP symptoms displayed:

1. Identification of femininity with being an emotional wreck and acting acting like a child:

My emotions changed. It feels as if I had previously experienced the world in grayscale and suddenly everything is bursting with color. Every emotion feels a thousand times stronger. I cry. I have mood swings. I crave deeper friendships, and I feel an intense need for physical and emotional intimacy. In a very real sense, my body is going through puberty – but this time, a female one. Emotionally, I feel and behave like a teenage girl.

2. "Gynecologists can't tell the difference!"

Bottom surgery – in my case, penile-inversion vaginoplasty – is a major operation with an intense recovery. No, contrary to popular myth, surgeons do not cut off trans womens’ penises. Rather, my penis and scrotum will be transformed into a vagina, labia, and clitoris. My penis will be inverted into my body, the erectile tissue removed, and the glans repurposed as a clitoris. The skin will be used to create labia and a vaginal canal. My urethra will be rerouted inside my body to a new urethral opening above my vagina. If the procedure is successful, I will have a self-lubricating vagina, an erogenous clitoris, and realistic labia – in short, a vulva that is physically indistinguishable from that of most women.

3. Letting dilation go without mention and pretending it isn't a horribly painful thing you'll need to do until you 41%:

Following my surgery, I will remain in the hospital for four to five days, including over Shabbos. Then I will be discharged to a friend’s house in New Jersey, where I will recover in bed with 24-7 care. My life, I am told, will consist of eating, sleeping, watching cute cat videos on YouTube, and probably moaning a lot. Sitting will be painful, as will standing. I’ll hardly be able to walk.

In January, I can go home. But sitting and standing will still be painful, and I will spend most of my time in bed. I will be unable to drive until March. As a single parent, I will have to rely on community support for transportation, babysitting, and shopping.

Tractate Tranny
Finally, we get to the last piece:

Spoiler: more pilpul

Judaism, one might argue, is all about binaries. Binaries infuse our language, our laws, and our very conceptions of nature. Orthodox vs. Non-Orthodox. Kosher vs. Non-Kosher. Day vs. Night. But just as we speak of binaries, we also speak of the uncertainty of binaries. Can we drive on Shabbat to get to a hospital and still call ourselves Orthodox? (It’s complicated.) Is a chicken soup still kosher if you accidentally spill milk in it? (That’s complicated, too.) We begin Shabbat at the start of sunset but conclude Shabbat at the end of sundown, because honestly? We have no idea how to distinguish between day and night. We speak of these opposites – day and night – yet we have no idea when one gives way to the other. And so, to be safe, we err on the side of caution, beginning Shabbat just before the earliest possible interpretation of night and concluding Shabbat just after the latest possible interpretation of day.

Usual cringe troon argument that binaries don't exist. You don't need a Bachelor's in Talmudic Law to know that it's stupid.

In his mystical diary, Rabbi Joseph Karo – the author of the Shulchan Aruch – discusses the case of an infertile woman. He concludes that her body is that of a woman, but her soul is that of a man: “This woman, in the past, was a proper male scholar. […] But his soul was reincarnated into a female.” Therefore, Karo explains, she cannot mate with her husband, “because a male and another male cannot produce offspring.” Yes, Rabbi Joseph Karo – the author of the Shulchan Aruch – teaches that a woman with the soul of a man is, in fact, male.
He continues. “If you shall point out that she has children from her first husband, this is because the first husband has the spark of a female soul within him.” Here, from the pen of one of the greatest, most influential rabbis in all of Jewish history, do we learn that a transgender man (who is born with the body of a woman but the soul of a man) is, in fact, male; and a transgender woman (who is born with the body of a man but the soul of a woman) is, in fact, female.

In addition to the points I made above about the purposeful distortion of these statements and what they meant in their original context (and with no disrespect meant to Rav Yosef Karo) citing someone whose "mystical diary" very prominently featured a suicide wish might not be the best method of convincing others of your mental stability. (Specifically, he believed that he was promised by an angel that he would be martyred by burning at the stake as a reward for his great piety and scholarship. He was very disappointed when this never occurred and he died peacefully at the age of 87). Then again, we are dealing with the 41%, so this citation may be more on the mark than Shuli realizes.

One may argue: but kabbalah (mysticism) is not mainstream Judaism. We do not pasken (determine laws) from mystical teachings. And furthermore, one may argue, these sources deal only with that which we cannot see: souls. They do not discuss that which we can see: bodies.
The Mishna discusses bodies. It struggles with the complexities of sex that arise when bodies do not match the binary of male and female: “The androgynos is in some ways like men and in other ways like women, and in others like neither men nor women.”

We don't determine laws from the Mishna either, but that's beside the point.

The concept of an androgynos is well-known to modern science, under the medical term “intersex.” Human bodies themselves, as we learn from both the Mishna and modern science, do not always fit within the binary of male and female. And just as modern science has distinguished numerous classes of bodies that do not clearly fit in the male-female binary, so, too, does the Mishna. In addition to zachar (male), nekevah (female), and androgynos (intersex), the Mishna discusses the categories of tumtum (someone whose sex organs are unclear), ay’lonit (someone who is born with female sex organs but develops male characteristics during puberty), and saris (someone who is born with male sex organs but develops female characteristics during puberty).

As above, the usual tranny mendacity about very rare and harmful deformities meaning that sex isn't a binary. Also, the Mishna doesn't treat the saris and aylonit as their own sex; they are viewed as men and women with an abnormal condition. Even the tumtum and androgynos aren't really their own truly independent sexes, but are compared against the male-female binary:

תם ונשלם שבח לאל בורא עולם

Links:
Not a Nice Jewish Boy: How I Realized I’m Transgender | Archive

How Can I Be Jewish and Trans? (An Orthodox Transgender Woman Wrestles With God) | Archive

How I Changed My Body’s Biology: What It Means to Gender Transition | Archive

The Body of a Man with the Soul of a Woman: What Judaism Can Teach Us About Being Transgender | Archive

 

[Raisin Boy]

I haven't been here in a while- started a new job that happens to be demanding during the holiday season -but the space is one of those very forward-facing LGBT+ positive joints. That's fine, I don't really give a shit, I just think the pronouns that some people are putting on their badges are goofy.

The other day I noticed that one of the people I supervise takes their bathroom breaks not in the close by facility restroom, which is unisex and single stall. They don't use the one at the other end of the building either, a less than one minute walk. They exit the building, go all the way to reception, and specifically use the women's restroom. That's a three minute walk. It's a troon, of course.

 

[chiobu]

I haven't been here in a while- started a new job that happens to be demanding during the holiday season -but the space is one of those very forward-facing LGBT+ positive joints. That's fine, I don't really give a shit, I just think the pronouns that some people are putting on their badges are goofy.

The other day I noticed that one of the people I supervise takes their bathroom breaks not in the close by facility restroom, which is unisex and single stall. They don't use the one at the other end of the building either, a less than one minute walk. They exit the building, go all the way to reception, and specifically use the women's restroom. That's a three minute walk. It's a troon, of course.

Probably wanted to own the TERFs using a manly power play

 

[Marvin]

This is where JKR and most other normies make huge mistake. There is no such shit as "gender", it doesn't exist in a physical world, only "sex" does. None of the animanls (and human in fact is rather a clever ape aka animal) have "gender". You either have a vagina or a dick, you are either male or female, everything else is just an excuse for mental illness or general failuire in life. As long as JKR and others claim that "gender" exists, they will be automatically involved into the discussion with shizos, which is fruitless because they are shizos. Why no one debates the hallucinations or beliefs of mentally ill in asylum? Because we know that they aren't real and those people are ill. Troons, alphabets, genders is the same, debating gender you indulge their fantasies that don't fucking exist, you just can't win this war.

The correct answer to that shit is that gender is as real as Harry Potter, it doesn't exist IRL. There is XY and XX, male and female. You born as one and you die as one, chopping your tits make you a titless femake, getting a wig and chopping your dick makes you dickless male. Sry for rant, but I hate that some people condsier JKR a pillar of sanity when she says utter bullshit like that.

Gender is an observed social phenomenon. It's the stereotypes we paint onto sex. But we have a choice as to whether we accept gender and humor it or try to resist it.

Honestly, she's right. No one is purely stereotypically manly or feminine. By that standard, the world has a fractal of genders / gender identities.

Troons and aggressive gender conservatives are two sides of the same coin. The gender conservatives insist that males must behave manly; troons insist that when males behave girly they're really girls and should be castrated.

With JK, I think the "many genders" comment is really a more roundabout, PC liberal way of saying, call yourself whatever you like, be as girly or manly as you like, but at the end of the day, sex is what matters. And I think that's the correct position to take.

 

[Oliver Onions]

"Read about the amhole blood clot, bigot."
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This is the difference between normal people and a narcissist (i.e. 99% of troons).

A normal person would say 'if you don't like what I write on my profile, don't read it'; a particularly sensitive normal person might even question why what they say upsets people so much. Not our tranny narcs though: Everything they say is so heckin valid and interesting the only conceivable reason you could have to not want to read it is if there is something wrong with you. Utterly insufferable.

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Tell me you're a virgin without telling me you're a virgin.

Only a man who'd never known the touch of a woman would romanticize the incredibly awkward process of losing your virginity like this.

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>"I'm an adult"

Fucking act like it then, you big baby.

 

[Rotter]

I haven't been here in a while- started a new job that happens to be demanding during the holiday season -but the space is one of those very forward-facing LGBT+ positive joints. That's fine, I don't really give a shit, I just think the pronouns that some people are putting on their badges are goofy.

The other day I noticed that one of the people I supervise takes their bathroom breaks not in the close by facility restroom, which is unisex and single stall. They don't use the one at the other end of the building either, a less than one minute walk. They exit the building, go all the way to reception, and specifically use the women's restroom. That's a three minute walk. It's a troon, of course.

What an exhausting troon life that must be. When I say godmorgen (good morning) to the troon at my workplace, I can see he has to process it for a second, and adjust his voice, before letting out a high-pitched "godmorgen". Fucking weird.
Sad and funny at the same time.

 

[Kikomi]

any proof it was at 14k upvotes? Your screenshot and archive say otherwise

all of the upvotes reset to zero when i clicked on the post. not sure why, it's possible it was deleted yet still visible for a short time. i specifically remember seeing 14k as the number but unfortunately that archive was the best i could do.
it does at least pick up on all of the awards and most of the comments.

if you visit the post now, it looks like this.

over three times as many comments and for some reason 59 upvotes. it has many more awards though, much more than a post with 59 upvotes normally would. not entirely sure why this is the case and what even happened that allowed me to archive it in time.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Youtube terf Exulansic made a new video about Kim Petras and his severe problems to move his hips while dancing. It's not only clear that he can't move very well but how manly his body is even with shapewear and makeup. His body is massive compared to the female dancers and unlike him they can actually dance. I suspect his problems get worse as he ages and his body will masculinize further. Also note the receding hairline.

Puberty blockers are "amazing" aren't they? They sterilize children, make them ill and stunt their genitals but what they don't do is stopping puberty entirely.

 

[pr3nt177]

@Opticana No reply button on your post for some reason. Anyway I quickly skimmed through his witterings (didn't complete it all tbh) and this bit caught my eye... (my underlining)

He claims that “Bottom surgery – in my case, penile-inversion vaginoplasty…” “ If the procedure is successful, I will have a self-lubricating vagina…”.
and yet the first two sites I googled I came across say this...

Because the penile inversion approach does not create a vaginal mucosa, the vagina does not self-lubricate and requires the use of an external lubricant for dilation or penetrative sex.

https://transcare.ucsf.edu/guidelines/vaginoplasty

Penile Inversion Vaginoplasty - It is also not self lubricating

https://www.verywellhealth.com/different-types-of-vaginoplasty-4171503

What was he saying about ignorance? I feel he should educate himself before trying with the masses. And again I'm not surprised to see mention of female toilets. Lavvie luvvie.

If he spends the entire time in bed (and he sounds lazy and self-pitying enough to) it won't be blood clots from his "vagina" he'll have to worry about.

 

[AssignedEva]

I absolutely love this shit. Whenever anyone tries to gently point out, in the mildest language possible, how much normies are being alienated, they get eaten alive and accused of endorsing trans genocide, with all the TRAs climbing over each other to denounce them the hardest.

Keep going, guys. Keep ignoring the warnings and keep defending giant hulking male swimmers smashing records and rapists getting transferred to female prisons. I am sure if you yell loud enough, Mr and Mrs Middle America will all be on your side within a year or two!

Edit: I think part of what fascinates me is the huge disconnect between the random twitter TRAs, and the people whose job it is to think about this kind of thing for a living (and who therefore have a better sense of the reality of the situation).

There is clearly a lot of money going into this stuff from the top (as the existence and scope of the Transgender Law Center shows) and Ryan Grim's video itself talked about how some pro-trans laws were accomplished by lobbying politicians behind the scenes and then slipping in law changes secretly without widespread public knowledge.

And yet the average Twitter AGP does not seem to grasp any of that, and thinks that all the privileges he has suddenly received in the last few years are just a natural occurrence, and that things are just going to keep progressing in the same way no matter what (because that is what has happened so far!), so there is no need to tread carefully. There is a real "born on third base and thinks he hit a home run" feeling to all of it.

To quote Messaging Guide: Transgender Youth and the Freedom to Be Ourselves - Building Our Choir with a Race Class Gender Narrative by ASO Communications, Transgender Law Centre and Lake Research Partners:

Say this...	Instead of...	Because...
Our genders Genders	Gender	Pluralising genders enables greater agreement with our worldview and helps activate more expansive attitudes towards our genders and transgender people.
Respect each other for who we are, transgender or not Support all young people to be their authentic selves and pursue their dreams Each one of us should have the freedom to be ourselves, no matter the colour of our skin, how we worship or our genders	Protect vulnerable transgender kids	Promoting the creation of a positive good (the freedom of self expression) is more effective than appeals to ameliorate harm (protecting transgender young people from violence and discrimination). It generates support and trust from our base for transgender young people to know what is best for their own health and wellbeing.
Some people in power try to put us in boxes based on what we look like, where we're from, or our genders Certain politicians push laws that restrict our freedoms based on the colour of our skin, what's in our wallets or because we're transgender	Transgender kids face crushing bullying and discrimination, which threatens their physical and mental health	The container/box metaphor is extremely effective across racial and ethnic groups for explaining what the villains are doing and how it harms all of us. It resonates with persuadables, builds empathy and galvanises our base to oppose those in power who seek to limit us based on who we are and control what transgender people can or cannot do. Focusing on the unique harms that transgender people face, on the other hand, further distances our audiences from the discussion, othering transgender people and at best eliciting pity. It also decreases our base and even progressive activist's trust in transgender young people to know what is best for their own health and well-being.
Whether we are Black, white or brown, Native or newcomer, transgender or not People of all races, backgrounds and genders No matter what we look like, where we come from, or how we express our genders	All of us / Everyone / We all	For a Race Class Gender Narrative to be effective, it's important to build connection by naming what we share across our differences. Explicitly naming specific races and genders can be more helpful than broader references to "races and genders" but both approaches perform well.
Certain politicians exploit divisions among us to try to get back into power. Some people in power fuel divisions based on race and exploit our lack of familiarity with transgender people so they can deny our communities the resources, jobs and healthcare we all need. A handful of politicians stoke fear, trying to get us to turn against some group instead of joining together to demand what all of our families need.	Our opposition is racist/transphobic. Politicians divide us.	Framing the strategic racism of our opponents as fueling or exploiting existing divisions between us generates stronger agreement than directly blaming them for their divisions. This is an especially important distinction when talking about how our opposition stokes fear of transgender people. Our target audiences know that transphobia is widespread - and often themselves feel unsure about transgender people - so they do not buy statements attributing fear and division to certain politicians. By acknowledging our audience's own questions, concerns and lack of familiarity with what it means to be transgender, though, we can can remind them of their better values and intentions, and help them recognise how certain politicians take advantage of and manipulate their unease. It is helpful to echo and link how they "exploit" division across races and lack of familiarity with transgender people.
Certain politicians... Some people in power... A powerful few...	Politicians The wealthy/powerful	To credibly name a villain, it's critical to make clear that you're implicating specific individuals (e.g. certain or some politicians) as opposed to vilifying whole categories of people.
[Certain politicians]... trying to get back into power/get and hold onto power. ...who want to block us from joining together to demand what we all deserve. ...who want to pick and choose who counts.	Transphobes/racists	In addition to naming our villains, we must expose the motivations behind their actions. "Getting back into power", "getting and holding onto power", exclusion and control broadly and blocking us from demanding the resources we all need all currently resonate with base and persuadable audiences in explaining why the opposition introduces these attacks on transgender people.

This has been extensively researched and tested. Anat Shenker-Osorio uses a multidisciplinary team to shape narratives and Lake Research Partners has worked on Biden and AOC's campaigns along with Planned Parenthood and the Human Rights Campaign. This treatment was expensive to put together and it's clearly something that would be effective - how many of us got lead on the road to peaking because twitter troons were screaming about how words are literal violence and the TERFs are causing genocide by saying sex is real?

But it's all for nothing. A decade of social justice activists saying "It's not my duty to educate you", decrying "respectability politics" and "tone policing", mocking white/cis fragility... the idea of modulating your language to win over people on the fence is alien to them, because instead of thinking "I should try and convince people that it's important to me to be able to use a bathroom that matches my gender" it's "I have A RIGHT to use the women's restroom and anyone who disagrees is a TERF who deserves her teeth kicked in". You see this with people like PhilosophyTube - "I'm tired of waiting, I want what I want NOW NOW NOW".

Twitter AGPs are their own undoing

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

I can't be the only one who finds what's effectively a religion issuing dictates on how you should report on that religion pretty creepy.

 

[Muskcarpone]

The jokes write themselves:

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Sideshow Roberta.

 

[celebrityskin]

 

[Timotei Lindeanu]

This is where JKR and most other normies make huge mistake. There is no such shit as "gender", it doesn't exist in a physical world, only "sex" does. None of the animanls (and human in fact is rather a clever ape aka animal) have "gender". You either have a vagina or a dick, you are either male or female, everything else is just an excuse for mental illness or general failuire in life. As long as JKR and others claim that "gender" exists, they will be automatically involved into the discussion with shizos, which is fruitless because they are shizos. Why no one debates the hallucinations or beliefs of mentally ill in asylum? Because we know that they aren't real and those people are ill. Troons, alphabets, genders is the same, debating gender you indulge their fantasies that don't fucking exist, you just can't win this war.

The correct answer to that shit is that gender is as real as Harry Potter, it doesn't exist IRL. There is XY and XX, male and female. You born as one and you die as one, chopping your tits make you a titless femake, getting a wig and chopping your dick makes you dickless male. Sry for rant, but I hate that some people condsier JKR a pillar of sanity when she says utter bullshit like that.

Gender is used mostly in grammar for certain languages that have gendered nouns and pronouns (mostly latin languages have them), but also as a less vulgar way to say sex (the thing between your legs) and also differentiate from sex (the activity, the thing I do to troons moms every night). But leave it to the SJWs, troons and libtards to take this word to the next fucking level. Also JKR has to play it safe since the troon crusade has her in their sights 24/7.