Plagued Consoomers / Consoomer Culture - Because if it has a recogniseable brand on it, I’d buy it!

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

(You may now commence calling me a stupid commie lmfao.)

No I will call you a based Third Positionist.

100% agree with your post and how people are lacking meaning from one or more areas of their life

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

It's definitely true in the US. Most insurance plans either straight up don't cover therapy or only cover a certain (usually very low) number of sessions. I've even heard of policies that will only cover visits as needed to get medication (which doesn't even work for everyone!), but won't cover things like talk therapy, which is ludicrous to me. When you add that to the way our society functions (low wages, long work hours, high and rising cost of living, individualistic rather than communitarian society, capitalist consumer culture, etc.) you end up with a lot of really depressed, stressed out people with no way to get help. A lot - maybe even most - of these people are going to be grabbing for the cheap, short-term things that make them feel good and help them escape from the rest of their lives; for some people, that could be drugs, but for others, it's children's toys that make you think of better times, or a stack of Disney animated film DVDs as tall as you are, or an Xbox you play obsessively whenever you're not at work.

It honestly is really sad. Especially because what these people are missing is really pretty obvious when you think about it: Economic security, time off from work, community, family. These are basic things that everyone needs, but most people go without at least one of them if not more. Nobody seems really interested in figuring out how to give people these things, though, so consoomer culture reigns supreme in the meantime, because sad, stressed out people need something to get them through the day.

(You may now commence calling me a stupid commie lmfao.)

sometimes it really is an egg and the chicken situation , some of these types are spending so much money on instant gratification that is really,really difficult not to shit on them and blame them for their own problems since they could make a few sacrifices on junk and actually solve some more important things but mental illness is really complicated, that so many are even willing to use it as an excuse for self destructing already says something is not right with the culture, nothing happens in a vacuum, what i mean is , even if they are just hedonistic and lazy that are so many hedonistic and lazy young people with such nihilistic views is a concerning symptom.

 

[George Lucas]

Nesoberis also come to mind, in regards to people being obsessed with them. However, the larger ones (the largest size of nesos available is aptly called Tera Jumbo), are not cheap at all.

Here's some examples of hoarding nesos:

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These honestly look really cute and I think the missus might appreciate one or a few. I can’t blame people for being into shit like this.

Buying every single fucking one to the point you have to do a Home Depot run to fit it into your house is another story, however.

 

[byuu]

These honestly look really cute

They're fucking nightmare fuel. You could make a horror movie based on those creepy blank eyed dolls.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

love star wars but hate the new non canon shit. boba died so did darth maul but they are trying to bring both of them back for the sake of money. nothing like having something you like being raped for the sake of some bucks.

Both were concepts George Lucas approved of (the Darth Maul thing was one of his last major decisions before Disney bought Star Wars) so it's as canon as anything, including all of George Lucas's other stupid ideas (well, the Boba Fett one was kinda cool if you read the old EU Star Wars novels).

They're fucking nightmare fuel. You could make a horror movie based on those creepy blank eyed dolls.

I'm pretty sure you're only supposed to buy like 1 or 2, otherwise you get that effect.

 

[Toolbox]

It's definitely true in the US. Most insurance plans either straight up don't cover therapy or only cover a certain (usually very low) number of sessions. I've even heard of policies that will only cover visits as needed to get medication (which doesn't even work for everyone!), but won't cover things like talk therapy, which is ludicrous to me. When you add that to the way our society functions (low wages, long work hours, high and rising cost of living, individualistic rather than communitarian society, capitalist consumer culture, etc.) you end up with a lot of really depressed, stressed out people with no way to get help. A lot - maybe even most - of these people are going to be grabbing for the cheap, short-term things that make them feel good and help them escape from the rest of their lives; for some people, that could be drugs, but for others, it's children's toys that make you think of better times, or a stack of Disney animated film DVDs as tall as you are, or an Xbox you play obsessively whenever you're not at work.

It honestly is really sad. Especially because what these people are missing is really pretty obvious when you think about it: Economic security, time off from work, community, family. These are basic things that everyone needs, but most people go without at least one of them if not more. Nobody seems really interested in figuring out how to give people these things, though, so consoomer culture reigns supreme in the meantime, because sad, stressed out people need something to get them through the day.

(You may now commence calling me a stupid commie lmfao.)

Therapy on a mass scale is not the solution and never will be, we're at the point where our technology and society is the problem and people will have to find a rework there. Anyways with how bad the field of psychology is getting I would not trust there to be an improvement even if every single consoomer got access.

 

[Sourceress]

Therapy on a mass scale is not the solution and never will be, we're at the point where our technology and society is the problem and people will have to find a rework there. Anyways with how bad the field of psychology is getting I would not trust there to be an improvement even if every single consoomer got access.

I don't disagree.

Spoiler: Politics!

I think these problems won't be solved without massive structural changes to our society. Like I said, I believe a lot of these problems stem from systemic issues like lack of economic security, lack of time off from work, lack of community and family, etc. Fixing those things - making it so that people can afford to live comfortably without having to worry all the time even if they don't have highly marketable skills, so they aren't bankrupted by medical bills, making it so people have time to spend with their families and communities and on healthy hobbies? That's the solution imo. Therapy is helpful for those who are already hurt by the system as it exists now, but for most of them, not being stressed out about the bills all the time, being able to afford regular medical care, having time away from work to spend with their friends and families, and having a community to engage with (offline!) will cure them better than any antidepressant. That's my POV on it, anyway.

 

[Toolbox]

I don't disagree.

Spoiler: Politics!

I think these problems won't be solved without massive structural changes to our society. Like I said, I believe a lot of these problems stem from systemic issues like lack of economic security, lack of time off from work, lack of community and family, etc. Fixing those things - making it so that people can afford to live comfortably without having to worry all the time even if they don't have highly marketable skills, so they aren't bankrupted by medical bills, making it so people have time to spend with their families and communities and on healthy hobbies? That's the solution imo. Therapy is helpful for those who are already hurt by the system as it exists now, but for most of them, not being stressed out about the bills all the time, being able to afford regular medical care, having time away from work to spend with their friends and families, and having a community to engage with (offline!) will cure them better than any antidepressant. That's my POV on it, anyway.

And anyways at the scale of the issue, there aren't enough therapists for it to ever be feasible for everyone who could potentially benefit from their advice actually ever having access. Even counting bad therapists.

 

[X-avier cuck]

I don't know how to multiquote in an edit but I didn't see this at first and wanted to respond, so apologies for the double post.

I have a very niche interest in musical storytelling, and Disney Renaissance had some absolute gems if you want to study that art... but it stops there. I can even tell you the exact moment everything fell apart for good: Let It Go. Unlike most Broadway/musical-style songs, Let It Go had a pop chord progression. It's why it was such an earworm, and why parents were being driven mad by their children singing it nonstop for three months. After that, Disney's doubled-down and has turned their focus to more marketable radio-friendly songs. It's why How Far I'll Go has the same chord progression and Encanto from what I've heard it mostly that Latin pop + "whoa-oa" stuff. Lin-Manuel Miranda is not a very good musical writer, especially following in the footsteps of some legitimate geniuses like Ashman and Schwartz. Disney likely just tagged him because people loved Hamilton and mass appeal in the bottom line. Encanto rhymed "Madrigal/magical" and "arepa/weather" in the same song. Come on, now.

Anyway, it's hard to say anything about this because most people don't consciously think about it. People just assume Disney makes the Best Songs, like they make The Best Cartoons, always. A great comparison is "Friend Like Me" compared to "You're Welcome." Functionally, the songs serve the same purpose in their respectful films. One is incredibly fun and witty, the other is slow and dull, like a first draft. But Disney just wants the name recognition, so it doesn't matter. As long as How Far I'll Go makes adult children weep tears of nostalgia someday, it's fine.

It's especially jarring when you compare it to other contemporaries. I saw Moana in 2018 and already forgot the main story. I saw Kubo and the Two Strings in 2016 and I don't think I'll ever forget that movie, it's a gorgeous marvel. DreamWorks' best blows 2000's Disney out of the water any day. But even the Oscars don't give a shit, award to Disney. The only thing that changed their minds was Spiderverse. But before that? Big Hero 6 over Song of The Sea. Zootopia over Kubo. Coco over Loving Vincent. The list goes on. I think my favorite is the year Wreck-it-Ralph lost to Brave, despite the former being objectively better, because the only thing people slobber over more than Disney is Pixar.

Disney has been in bed with lmm for a while and that's largely because not only is he a diversity pick but everything that he give them essentially turns to gold.
Hamilton was basically the thing that saved Disney Plus in 2020 and even now Encanto's soundtrack has gone completely viral thanks to gen Z so I imagine they're going to keep using him for the foreseeable future.
I think the bigger issue with Disney though is that they lack any sort of identity currently.
A lot of a people at the company try to Pander to whatever the current culture likes while at the same time playing it safe which creates a bunch of half-baked messages.
What's maddening is that whenever anybody tries to call this out they get hit with words like " problematic" which effectively kills any proper discussions

 

[make_it_so]

I think this video (aside from his slight optimism) about sums up the problems with the show as well as the appeal of the character which the show fails to capture.
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Most of the defenses I'm seeing for the show though do seem to be borderline "Its just like when I was a babeh OHMERGOSH" or "At least it isn't woke". Standards have hit rock bottom it seems.

Thanks for the vid. Did this guy have it up on his YouTube channel but it got copyright struck by the Rat?

 

[Creep3r]

Thanks for the vid. Did this guy have it up on his YouTube channel but it got copyright struck by the Rat?

No idea. Someone sent me the mp4 "before it gets taken down" and the file reads "review by Vorpal". I assume that's the guy who made it if you want to find his channel.

 

[make_it_so]

No idea. Someone sent me the mp4 "before it gets taken down" and the file reads "review by Vorpal". I assume that's the guy who made it if you want to find his channel.

Yep, found it - apparently the mp4 you got sent was only part of the whole review.

 

[Skipjack]

Disney has been in bed with lmm for a while and that's largely because not only is he a diversity pick but everything that he give them essentially turns to gold.
Hamilton was basically the thing that saved Disney Plus in 2020 and even now Encanto's soundtrack has gone completely viral thanks to gen Z so I imagine they're going to keep using him for the foreseeable future.
I think the bigger issue with Disney though is that they lack any sort of identity currently.
A lot of a people at the company try to Pander to whatever the current culture likes while at the same time playing it safe which creates a bunch of half-baked messages.
What's maddening is that whenever anybody tries to call this out they get hit with words like " problematic" which effectively kills any proper discussions

The day of reckoning is when we have to listen to his original work in live action Little Mermaid .

It's definitely true in the US. Most insurance plans either straight up don't cover therapy or only cover a certain (usually very low) number of sessions. I've even heard of policies that will only cover visits as needed to get medication (which doesn't even work for everyone!), but won't cover things like talk therapy, which is ludicrous to me. When you add that to the way our society functions (low wages, long work hours, high and rising cost of living, individualistic rather than communitarian society, capitalist consumer culture, etc.) you end up with a lot of really depressed, stressed out people with no way to get help. A lot - maybe even most - of these people are going to be grabbing for the cheap, short-term things that make them feel good and help them escape from the rest of their lives; for some people, that could be drugs, but for others, it's children's toys that make you think of better times, or a stack of Disney animated film DVDs as tall as you are, or an Xbox you play obsessively whenever you're not at work.

It honestly is really sad. Especially because what these people are missing is really pretty obvious when you think about it: Economic security, time off from work, community, family. These are basic things that everyone needs, but most people go without at least one of them if not more. Nobody seems really interested in figuring out how to give people these things, though, so consoomer culture reigns supreme in the meantime, because sad, stressed out people need something to get them through the day.

(You may now commence calling me a stupid commie lmfao.)

It's like a dark twist on how toddlers are often soothed with the distraction of a toy or shiny object. They can't deal with the situation or do anything about it, so they need something to get their mind off it.

 

[Medicinal Molduga]

Cross-post from the Kevin Gibes thread. He recently posted this (he usually keeps his toys in large bins but has been putting them up on shelves) :

Holy shit CONSOOOOOOOM
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For context, YEARS ago he was posting this (most notably the last tweet) :

Kevin's ex-fiancee/mommy didn't like his toy hoarding or his other undesirable qualities
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2017 cope. Kevin doesn't need toys anymore now that he's a troon
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For anyone who doesn't follow him, first you're missing out, second he is CONSTANTLY grifting for donations for "bills" and then spending the money on $500 Transformer toys. He also has a ridiculous plushie collection. Oh and he shares his room with two other men from his 'polycule' and I don't know how many troons+dogs live at their ranch at this point, so his hoarding has direct, documented casualties in his case.

 

[Strange Looking Dog]

Is this man suffering? Though from the outside such a life may appear wretched he knows nothing of what he lacks; this is simply what he is. The branded mindset is not something for therapy to fix, it is not a disorder; it is a mode of being. What is really keeping these people from "a more fulfilling life"? The family still exists —despite the best efforts of state actors, community is now more accessible than ever thanks to telecommunications, and the range of available constructive pastimes and occupations has only grown. Pick up an instrument, a chisel, a brush! What keeps men from these things but a lack of desire?

that reminds me of some reddit post or twitter i don't remember where some soy collector guy was saying how funkos and junk food make you feel food and are cheaper than therapy . Don't know how true that is, i guess if you live in Muhrica and have no insurance a trip to the edibles store and a rick and morty funko will be cheaper than a psychiatry. consultation, either way that state of mind is kinda sad, there's obviously something missing for a lot of people.

Therapy is helpful for those who are already hurt by the system as it exists now, but for most of them, not being stressed out about the bills all the time, being able to afford regular medical care, having time away from work to spend with their friends and families, and having a community to engage with (offline!) will cure them better than any antidepressant.

Does anyone really believe the incredible cope that funkopops are used as an alternative to therapy by the desperate and downtrodden? How many of the downtrodden can maintain habits like this? This's simply a defensive rationalization from someone who feels judged. These are otherwise stable people who have no higher desire than to browse, spend, and accumulate.

Fixing those things - making it so that people can afford to live comfortably without having to worry all the time even if they don't have highly marketable skills, so they aren't bankrupted by medical bills, making it so people have time to spend with their families and communities and on healthy hobbies? That's the solution imo.

This is not an affliction of the common man and a lack of income is the furthest thing from the problem. Look at how these people spend! Their compulsive spending is what marks their days and identifies them! Can such a man ever attain financial security? You will give and he will take eagerly —though he will be no richer for it.


Trivial people like this have always existed, they've taken many forms throughout history but ultimately come to resemble the excesses and contradictions of the culture that produced them. The best you can do is change their aesthetic, but that's not really any change at all. Try to mold them into "well rounded" people and they'll simply make a mockery of your ideal.

 

[Autistic Joe]

I can definitely see the appeal, but the person in the video has destroyed the entire point by putting them in their own room where nobody will ever touch them except her cat. Why bother getting so many soft plush things and then never touching them? Ugh.

Could be worse, the whole room could've been filled with dozens of actual cats.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Does anyone really believe the incredible cope that funkopops are used as an alternative to therapy by the desperate and downtrodden? How many of the downtrodden can maintain habits like this? This's simply a defensive rationalization from someone who feels judged. These are otherwise stable people who have no higher desire than to browse, spend, and accumulate.

I believe a lot are mentally ill and not really happy, in their own fucked up logic consoom is a coping mechanism but don't know in which way the good will of others can help rather than enable it more, they could get a lot of handouts, free healthcare options and still process it as "cool, now i have even more money freed up for weed and toys", much like Chris has always done with all the money well intentioned people have sent him thinking he really is gonna use it for food and medicine, if anything his hoarding, irresponsible spending and entitlement is only the worse for it.

 

[Cripple]

Don't the women who play the Disney princesses get super fucking depressed when they leave the job because they went from being treated like an actual princess pretty much every fucking day to being a normal woman again?

...
Um, no? I don't know about you but having gross sweaty people put their arms around you and wearing a heavy, hot dress when it's a 100° out doesn't scream "princess" to me. Plus plenty of then gets their tits and ass grabbed too.

It's a known thing among cast members costumed work is some of the least desirable in the parks. Sure plenty of wannabe actors do it to beef up their resumes, hoping to move up to a speaking role in a show, but being on display is exhausting.

These women are *employees*, they are there to make *other* people happy. Have you never actually been to a park?

 

[cringy cunt]

I believe a lot are mentally ill and not really happy, in their own fucked up logic consoom is a coping mechanism but don't know in which way the good will of others can help rather than enable it more, they could get a lot of handouts, free healthcare options and still process it as "cool, now i have even more money freed up for weed and toys", much like Chris has always done with all the money well intentioned people have sent him thinking he really is gonna use it for food and medicine, if anything his hoarding, irresponsible spending and entitlement is only the worse for it.

consooming and cooming are absolutely effective coping mechanisms for misery. So are alcohol, food, drugs, sex, aggression, workaholism, etc.

The human system has to come up with some fucky defenses especially when the wires get crossed. Just because it's effective for coping, it doesn't mean its really helpful long term. Because the second someone knocks over your funco pop pyramid or your new MCU whatever the fuck gets lost in the mail, you melt down. You return to your misery.

Collecting plastic junk in neat rows is autistic, but you can go to therapy to figure out that its ok to have a hobby but when it starts to wreck your life.... it's not a hobby anymore. Or that buying funco pops instead of pay rent is fucking dumb. of course, there's economic and social barriers to getting help and that sucks.... but the claim that consooming is a "poor man's therapy" is at best loony and worst manipulative.

 

[AdmiralRenae]

NFTs are the literal definition of wasting your money on a JPG when the gigachads can simply screenshot it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TFGmykL/status/1469262901642940416

https://mobile.twitter.com/headlesstale/status/1477435295339479040

Eminem bought a Bored Ape NFT resembling him for £334,000

The Kamikaze rapper changed his Twitter avatar to a photograph of the NFT

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