Red Letter Media

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

But it seems like people get mad at RLM for not being hard enough on bad movies.

I'm not mad, but I do have a problem with how rambly and longwinded they've gotten over the past couple years. In the words of Plinkett "Stop wasting my time. Stop it."

I also feel like their system of "do they recommend" doesn't work in the streaming world because unless it's absolute dogshit they seem way more willing to recommend something on streaming even if they didn't seem to like it.

Honestly, they should just get rid of the recommendation altogether and let what they have to say about the movie speak for itself. I don't care that they liked the new Matrix, because everything they said about it made it sound like dogshit *to me*. I will make fun of them for being faggy hipsters for liking the meta shit, though. And laugh at the fanboys who lose their shit over it.

 

[BlueSpark]

why do you care what a walking talking ken doll with some play-doh ass hair thinks of you? for real, the script's an obviously unedited pretentious rich kid's critique of consumerism that ultimately falls flat, so it's a day of the week ending in y

RLM's entire review of the ghostbusters reboot thing was them bitching about the fact that it was empty nostalgia bait. I distinctly recall them saying the Matrix: Retarderections is a bad Matrix movie but gets their seal of approval only because it is beat-you-over-the-head expressly anti-nostalgiabait and-or is amusing on the meta level of "a studio actually signed off on a film that made fun of its audience and its producer and thought this would do well"
It may be a limp-dicked example of taking the piss out of nostalgia, sure, but what other big blockbuster in the last few years even swam remotely close to that tone? even ghostqueefers 2016 worshipped at the altar of nostalgia while it proceeded to fuck everything up that made the original good

Both films are shit but the RLM spergs give the Matrix one a pass because they're dimwits with an undeserved sense of superiority over movie-going "general audiences" and they like that the movie makes them feel smart and superior to those people.

Some harsh facts about the RLM guys is that they aren't particularly intelligent or competent, they're just pretentious pseudo-intellectuals that have good comradery with each other and are consistently funny.
Mike, Rich and Jay will smugly talk about "general audiences" and "manchildren" whilst praising mass-market garbage and putting Star Trek on a pedestal like it's basic bitch philosophical conundrums are the peak of intelligent writing and characterisation. They mock B-movies for their amateurish mistakes and poor production value whilst still fucking up basic audio and image on their own videos and making unwatchable trash like Space Cop.
And if they get any criticism themselves for mistakes in their videos or whatever they'll passive-aggressively bitch about their audience and insult them for caring about stuff, even though bitching about media is what they themselves do for a living.

They have far higher opinions of themselves than is deserved and no self-awareness at all and it's grating sometimes, especially when they aggressively insult people and sling around terms like "white trash" whilst censoring themselves from saying "retaгd" or, god forbid, laughing at trannies.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Both films are shit but the RLM spergs give the Matrix one a pass because they're dimwits with an undeserved sense of superiority over movie-going "general audiences" and they like that the movie makes them feel smart and superior to those people.

Some harsh facts about the RLM guys is that they aren't particularly intelligent or competent, they're just pretentious pseudo-intellectuals that have good comradery with each other and are consistently funny.
Mike, Rich and Jay will smugly talk about "general audiences" and "manchildren" whilst praising mass-market garbage and putting Star Trek on a pedestal like it's basic bitch philosophical conundrums are the peak of intelligent writing and characterisation. They mock B-movies for their amateurish mistakes and poor production value whilst still fucking up basic audio and image on their own videos and making unwatchable trash like Space Cop.
And if they get any criticism themselves for mistakes in their videos or whatever they'll passive-aggressively bitch about their audience and insult them for caring about stuff, even though bitching about media is what they themselves do for a living.

They have far higher opinions of themselves than is deserved and no self-awareness at all and it's grating sometimes, especially when they aggressively insult people and sling around terms like "white trash" whilst censoring themselves from saying "retaгd" or, god forbid, laughing at trannies.

*ahem*

Essentially, you can agree or disagree with them liking or disliking a movie. But don’t get so angry about it you write essays in here or demand they get attacked more or whatever.

It’s just a dumb YouTube video, calm down.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

Lmao at people who watch RLM expecting their views to be validated instead of just enjoying drunken Milwaukee slobs talking crap for half an hour.

Soak that wit-free basic bitch snark in a few gallons of Crystal Head vodka and maybe Mike and Jay will invite you on to guest in a video. Taking an overlong piece of media stroking off about meta and calling it 'a fun half hour' couldn't hurt your chances either.

*ahem*

*ahem*

It's just a dumb kiwifarms thread, calm down.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

*ahem*

It's just a dumb kiwifarms thread, calm down.

Yes, which is why we call out when people are being exceptional.

 

[BlueSpark]

Essentially, you can agree or disagree with them liking or disliking a movie. But don’t get so angry about it you write essays in here or demand they get attacked more or whatever.

It’s just a dumb YouTube video, calm down.

Yes, which is why we call out when people are being exceptional.

The only person getting mad in this thread is you. People can criticize Milwaukee cringe boomers, even if they're your online friend simulator.
Boggles the mind that you're getting upset about people ragging on them when it's literally what they do to other people for a living.

 

[King Dead]

why do you care what a walking talking ken doll with some play-doh ass hair thinks of you? for real, the script's an obviously unedited pretentious rich kid's critique of consumerism that ultimately falls flat, so it's a day of the week ending in y

RLM's entire review of the ghostbusters reboot thing was them bitching about the fact that it was empty nostalgia bait. I distinctly recall them saying the Matrix: Retarderections is a bad Matrix movie but gets their seal of approval only because it is beat-you-over-the-head expressly anti-nostalgiabait and-or is amusing on the meta level of "a studio actually signed off on a film that made fun of its audience and its producer and thought this would do well"
It may be a limp-dicked example of taking the piss out of nostalgia, sure, but what other big blockbuster in the last few years even swam remotely close to that tone? even ghostqueefers 2016 worshipped at the altar of nostalgia while it proceeded to fuck everything up that made the original good

I think the issue most people have is that giving it a pass because it's anti-nostalgia and it's on streaming so it's "free" is kind of dumb. I get that they know it wasn't good so it's not a wholehearted recommendation, but I yohoho'd my copy and I still feel like I was ripped off. I don't care about meta shit, just give me a decent story that's filmed well. Is that too much to ask these days?

Y'know what else was anti-nostalgia? Twin Peaks season 3. The difference is that despite going out of their way to not deliver a nostalgia-bait sequel, Lynch and Frost still created a good, weird show. The best revenge is living well, and Lana Larry would have done better to just make a good movie instead of this up-its-own-ass metafest where he shits on WB to the audience's face.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

The only person getting mad in this thread is you. People can criticize Milwaukee cringe boomers, even if they're your online friend simulator.
Boggles the mind that you're getting upset about people ragging on them when it's literally what they do to other people for a living.

Dude, I gave a one or two sentence “calm down”. You wrote a multi paragraph rant about how you think the RLM guys are smug assholes high off their own farts or whatever.

 

[Hard Toothbrush]

Watching RLM for actual advice on which movie is worth seeing is like thinking that The Grand Tour is a genuine car review show.

 

[byuu]

Watching RLM for actual advice on which movie is worth seeing is like thinking that The Grand Tour is a genuine car review show.

It's not like they deceived you about what the movie is. They flat out tell you it's bad.

 

[ditto]

Watching RLM for actual advice on which movie is worth seeing is like thinking that The Grand Tour is a genuine car review show.

Took their recommendation once and watched A Ghost Story.
Will never do it again.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

RLM admits the movie is bad, yet they're giving it a pass because "it does something different"?

yes, and it won't be the last time either. 'pass' here also translates to 'eh, why not if it's free'

Sorry dude, I'm still allowed to disagree with them, lol.

in so many paragraphs, yes.
I thought the movie looked like shit so I didn't watch it, but I do find it funny that some suit signed off on its release. I'm glad it exists and has made so many people mad.

Some harsh facts about the RLM guys is that they aren't particularly intelligent or competent, they're just pretentious pseudo-intellectuals that have good comradery with each other and are consistently funny.

You're about the only person I've heard describe them as anything approaching pseuds, which is a funny animus to have towards people who describe themselves as alcoholics who made Space Cop. If your main sticking point is that they hate general audiences and safe-and-unambitious films, there's like thirty-thousand other obese manchildren who will affirm that spider-man is a competently made movie. I also hate general audiences and consumerist retards, so maybe I'm just getting the RLM Gold package.

The length of their stuff increasing doesn't matter as much to me because I usually just listen to their rambling as podcasts, but I can see hitb getting longer causing it to lose its old charm. That being the case, I'd just stop watching it.

I think the issue most people have is that giving it a pass because it's anti-nostalgia and it's on streaming so it's "free" is kind of dumb.

"If you've already got the streaming service, and you're OK with all of the action being terrible and the story being boring and the cinematography looking cheap and a forgettable score but you want to watch something weird and different, go for it" seems to me like it's pretty even-keeled. They effectively said the same about that shitty cloverfield sci-fi thing that was a netflix exclusive way back when.

The difference between Lynch and the skinwalker is that Lynch made more than one good thing in his career and has continued to show characteristic aplomb, whereas literally everything the watchoutskis have made since the first film should've clued you in that this was going to be a stinker.

 

[Blood Debts]

Did the RLM guys sleep with your moms and take a shit in your marmalade or something? I’m just amused at how quickly this thread went from “lmao they funny” to “they’re pretentious fucks who are so wrong about this movie they might as well kill themselves”. I’m exaggerating a bit, but still.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

yes, and it won't be the last time either. 'pass' here also translates to 'eh, why not if it's free'

in so many paragraphs, yes.
I thought the movie looked like shit so I didn't watch it, but I do find it funny that some suit signed off on its release. I'm glad it exists and has made so many people mad.

"Why not if it's free" is lazy and also inconsistent with what they've said about other movies that have come out in the past year. They didn't give films like Army of the Dead or Halloween Kills the same excuse, even though those movies were available on streaming services. Why all of the sudden make that excuse now?

"In so many paragraphs, yes." Well, gee golly, I'm sure glad I have your permission that I didn't ask for! lol.

I don't want to crucify RLM or anything; they're still my favorite channel on YouTube, but that doesn't mean I need to think that everything they say is gospel or gold. There's just as many devoted defenders in this thread being butthurt from the criticism against their favorite YouTubers, from what I'm seeing.

 

[BlueSpark]

If your main sticking point is that they hate general audiences and safe-and-unambitious films, there's like thirty-thousand other obese manchildren who will affirm that spider-man is a competently made movie. I also hate general audiences and consumerist retards, so maybe I'm just getting the RLM Gold package.

The point I was making was that they enjoy looking down on those people whilst being no better themselves.

 

[King Dead]

"If you've already got the streaming service, and you're OK with all of the action being terrible and the story being boring and the cinematography looking cheap and a forgettable score but you want to watch something weird and different, go for it" seems to me like it's pretty even-keeled. They effectively said the same about that shitty cloverfield sci-fi thing that was a netflix exclusive way back when.

The difference between Lynch and the skinwalker is that Lynch made more than one good thing in his career and has continued to show characteristic aplomb, whereas literally everything the watchoutskis have made since the first film should've clued you in that this was going to be a stinker.

To be honest, I guess I more or less followed their advice since I wasn't expecting much of anything, and I only watched it because a friend pirated a copy the day after it came out and streamed it for several mutuals so we could all get drunk and shitpost about it. It was just silly seeing them give this one a bit of a pass when they'd torn apart much less terrible movies. But in the end, you're never going to agree with anyone's opinions 100% of the time, so whatever. That won't stop me from calling them like I see them.

I guess most of my thoughts would have been better posted in the Matrix 4 thread, but oh well, what can you do. It's another bad Matrix sequel, what else is new.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

Army of the Dead or Halloween Kills

They're free, yeah. They're also just like every other shitty zombie movie and all of the other halloween movies. For the slobs, the matrix retardations is both free and something "unique enough." It's a cashgrab in which the director looks at the camera and calls you stupid for wanting it - it's the same reason that YIIK is remarkable despite being an objectively shitty game.

I'm sure glad I have your permission that I didn't ask for!

I'm not sure if you're familiar, but we tend to make fun of autism around here

There's just as many devoted defenders in this thread being butthurt from the criticism against their favorite YouTubers, from what I'm seeing.

It's funny to make fun of people having outsize reactions over some fat guys not taking the exact stance they themselves have about a cash grab.

The point I was making was that they enjoy looking down on those people whilst being no better themselves.

They aren't the ones making Adam Sandler a zillion bucks for every pile of shit he pushes out, and they've pioneered a whole style of internet humor that's influenced myriad creators all the while throwing critiques of varying dubiousness at all manner of blockbusters. I don't think Mike liking star trek and enjoying a braindead movie every now and then is quite on the level of lining up with bombast to watch the newest Transformers movie or behaving like the fandoms that the Plinkett reviews, their big claim to fame, spent no small amount of time relentlessly mocking.

I guess most of my thoughts would have been better posted in the Matrix 4 thread, but oh well, what can you do.

Yeah, that's the gist of it. It's a shitty movie and people are misconstruing the RLM guys as somehow saying it was 'good.' Their review isn't as scathing as all the other ones out there, sure, but I didn't get the impression they were really defending its merits so much as its novelty.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

They're free, yeah. They're also just like every other shitty zombie movie and all of the other halloween movies. For the slobs, the matrix retardations is both free and something "unique enough." It's a cashgrab in which the director looks at the camera and calls you stupid for wanting it - it's the same reason that YIIK is remarkable despite being an objectively shitty game.

I'm not sure if you're familiar, but we tend to make fun of autism around here

It's funny to make fun of people having outsize reactions over some fat guys not taking the exact stance they themselves have about a cash grab.

They aren't the ones making Adam Sandler a zillion bucks for every pile of shit he pushes out, and they've pioneered a whole style of internet humor that's influenced myriad creators all the while throwing critiques of varying dubiousness at all manner of blockbusters. I don't think Mike liking star trek and enjoying a braindead movie every now and then is quite on the level of lining up with bombast to watch the newest Transformers movie or behaving like the fandoms that the Plinkett reviews, their big claim to fame, spent no small amount of time relentlessly mocking.

Yeah, that's the gist of it. It's a shitty movie and people are misconstruing the RLM guys as somehow saying it was 'good.' Their review isn't as scathing as all the other ones out there, sure, but I didn't get the impression they were really defending its merits so much as its novelty.

>>makes fun of "teh autism" by counting the paragraphs that others have typed out
>>proceeds to write paragraphs "defending" their position

Lack of self-awareness much there, champ? lol.

Plus, dude: You admit to not having seen the movie. How do you know if the film is "unique enough" or not? I get what RLM was saying in their review; I just wholeheartedly disagree with it. It's not unique in the slightest. It's on the same level of bad as the other movies I mentioned.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

Lack of self-awareness much there, champ?

I could respond to three different people in five words or less, but it wouldn't exactly be coherent and I'd have to cut out a lot of jabs and that's just not cool

by all means if they do a re:view of the super mario bros movie and I fly off the cuff with righteous fury that they don't love and adore it, summon the interaction all up
muh greentext on a forum

You admit to not having seen the movie. How do you know if the film is "unique enough" or not?

I saw the one scene where the guy says "the studio was going to make it with or without us," and that alone makes it different from everything else Hollywood has shat out in recent memory. That's more of a condemnation of the fact that the film industry is incestuous and stagnant, as even if the film is somehow distinct, it doesn't make it worth one's time. Robocop or Gremlins 2 are better examples of doing everything that this film's shitty meta elements wanted, yes, but those also came out decades ago.

But the RLM guys aren't saying that it's a good movie for everyone, nor is whether or not I personally think the thing is worth watching relevant to what they expressed in the review. None of the other shitty movies like Army or Halloween turn to the camera and directly insult you for watching it - which makes it a unique flavor for Mike and a "how was this allowed to happen?" for Jay. For them, that's enough to have apparently had a decent enough time - they said so in the review. And people won't stand for that.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I saw the one scene where the guy says "the studio was going to make it with or without us," and that alone makes it different from everything else Hollywood has shat out in recent memory.

The Deadpool movies say hello, and you can't get any more mainstream than Deadpool. They did this shit half a decade ago.