Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)
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Regarding the Atlanta visit today
Article: https://longisland.news12.com/president-biden-on-voting-rights-passage-im-tired-of-being-quiet
Archive: https://archive.md/kGDHs
ATLANTA - Pounding his fist for emphasis, President Joe Biden challenged senators on Tuesday to “stand against voter suppression,” urging them to change Senate rules in order to pass voting rights legislation that Republicans are blocking from debate and votes.
Biden told a crowd in Atlanta that he'd been having quiet conversations with senators for months over the two bills - a lack of progress that has brought his criticism from activists in his own party.
“I’m tired of being quiet!" he shouted. “I will not yield. I will not flinch.”
Current rules require 60 votes to advance most legislation - a threshold that Senate Democrats can’t meet alone because they only have a 50-50 majority with Vice President Kamala Harris to break ties. Republicans unanimously oppose the voting rights measures.
Not all Democrats are on board with changing the filibuster rules. Conservative West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin threw cold water on the idea Tuesday, saying he believes any changes should be made with substantial Republican buy-in.
And even if Democrats clear the obstacles to passage of the voting rights laws, it could be too late to counter widespread voting restrictions passed in 19 states following former President Donald Trump’s 2020 loss and his lies - embraced by many in the GOP -- that the election was stolen through voter fraud.
“This matters to all of us," he insisted. "The goal of the former president and his allies is to disenfranchise anyone who votes against him, simple as that.”
Biden spent decades in the Senate, and he spoke of how much it’s changed for the worse, calling it “a shell of its former self. It gives me no satisfaction to say that as an institutionalist.” He spoke of an era not long ago when an issue like voting rights would never have been so rancorously partisan.
He recalled working with notorious segregationist lawmakers in the Senate to get legislation passed and for it then to be signed into law by Republican presidents. But now, the filibuster has been used rampantly to block even the debating of some legislation.
With Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., setting next Monday’s Martin Luther King Jr. Day as a deadline to either pass voting legislation or consider revising the rules around the chamber’s filibuster blocking device, Biden is expected to evoke the memories of the U.S. Capitol riot a year ago in more forcefully aligning himself with the voting rights effort.
Biden told his audience: “The next few days, when these bills come to a vote, will mark a turning point in this nation.”
“Will we choose democracy over autocracy, light over shadow, justice over injustice? I know where I stand. I will not yield. I will not flinch,” he declared. “I will defend your right to vote and our democracy against all enemies foreign, yes and domestic! And so the question is where will the institution of the United States Senate stand?”
Biden on Tuesday also paid tribute to civil rights battles past - visiting Atlanta's historic Ebenezer Baptist Church, where the late Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. once held forth from the pulpit. He stood quietly as Martin Luther King III placed a wreath outside at the crypt of King and his wife, Coretta Scott King. And he referenced civil rights battles of the 1960s in his animated speech on the grounds of Morehouse College and Clark Atlanta University.
Vice President Kamala Harris spoke before Biden Tuesday, warning that a barrage of laws making it tougher to vote means there is “a danger of becoming accustomed to these laws, a danger of adjusting to these laws as though they are normal.”
“There is nothing normal about a law that makes it illegal to pass out water or food to people standing in long voter laws,” she said, to cheers.
Some voting rights advocates boycotted Biden's speech. Georgia Democratic gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams, known for her untiring voting rights work, also was skipping the event. The White House, meanwhile, sent out an unusually long list of attendees for the speech. Aides said Abrams had a conflict but didn’t explain further, though she tweeted support for the president.
Biden said before his trip the two had a scheduling mix-up but had spoken and were “all on the same page.”
When asked what he was risking politically by speaking out when there aren't enough votes to change the rules, he said: “I risk not saying what I believe. That’s what I risk. This is one of those defining moments. It really is. People are going to be judged on where were they before and where were they after the vote. History is going to judge us."
Voting rights advocates in Georgia and nationwide are increasingly anxious about what may happen in 2022 and beyond. They view the changes in many states as a subtler form of ballot restrictions like literacy tests and poll taxes once used to disenfranchise Black voters, a key Democratic constituency.
Republicans who have fallen in line behind Trump’s election misinformation are separately promoting efforts to influence future elections by installing sympathetic leaders in local election posts and by backing for elective office some of those who participated in the riot at the U.S. Capitol a year ago.
Democratic Sen. Raphael Warnock of Georgia, who is senior pastor at Ebenezer Baptist and made history as the first Black senator elected in Georgia, said that “anything that can happen that will continue to shine a bright light on the urgency of this issue is important.”
Georgia is at the center of it all, one of the key battleground states in the 2020 elections. After the votes were counted and recounted, Trump told a top state election official he wanted the official to “find” enough votes to overturn his loss. The state’s votes nonetheless went to Biden, and both of its Senate seats went to Democrats as well.
Last year, the Republican governor signed a sweeping rewrite of election rules that, among other things, gives the State Election Board new powers to intervene in county election offices and to remove and replace local election officials. That has led to concerns that the Republican-controlled state board could exert more influence over the administration of elections, including the certification of county results.
Congressional Democrats have written voting legislation that would usher in the biggest overhaul of U.S. elections in a generation by striking down hurdles to voting enacted in the name of election security, reducing the influence of big money in politics and limiting partisan influence over the drawing of congressional districts.
The package would create national election standards that would trump state-level GOP laws. It would also restore the ability of the Justice Department to police election laws in states with a history of discrimination.
Article: https://longisland.news12.com/president-biden-on-voting-rights-passage-im-tired-of-being-quiet
Archive: https://archive.md/kGDHs
President Biden on voting rights passage: 'I'm tired of being quiet!'
ATLANTA - Pounding his fist for emphasis, President Joe Biden challenged senators on Tuesday to “stand against voter suppression,” urging them to change Senate rules in order to pass voting rights legislation that Republicans are blocking from debate and votes.
Biden told a crowd in Atlanta that he'd been having quiet conversations with senators for months over the two bills - a lack of progress that has brought his criticism from activists in his own party.
“I’m tired of being quiet!" he shouted. “I will not yield. I will not flinch.”
Current rules require 60 votes to advance most legislation - a threshold that Senate Democrats can’t meet alone because they only have a 50-50 majority with Vice President Kamala Harris to break ties. Republicans unanimously oppose the voting rights measures.
Not all Democrats are on board with changing the filibuster rules. Conservative West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin threw cold water on the idea Tuesday, saying he believes any changes should be made with substantial Republican buy-in.
And even if Democrats clear the obstacles to passage of the voting rights laws, it could be too late to counter widespread voting restrictions passed in 19 states following former President Donald Trump’s 2020 loss and his lies - embraced by many in the GOP -- that the election was stolen through voter fraud.
“This matters to all of us," he insisted. "The goal of the former president and his allies is to disenfranchise anyone who votes against him, simple as that.”
Biden spent decades in the Senate, and he spoke of how much it’s changed for the worse, calling it “a shell of its former self. It gives me no satisfaction to say that as an institutionalist.” He spoke of an era not long ago when an issue like voting rights would never have been so rancorously partisan.
He recalled working with notorious segregationist lawmakers in the Senate to get legislation passed and for it then to be signed into law by Republican presidents. But now, the filibuster has been used rampantly to block even the debating of some legislation.
With Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., setting next Monday’s Martin Luther King Jr. Day as a deadline to either pass voting legislation or consider revising the rules around the chamber’s filibuster blocking device, Biden is expected to evoke the memories of the U.S. Capitol riot a year ago in more forcefully aligning himself with the voting rights effort.
Biden told his audience: “The next few days, when these bills come to a vote, will mark a turning point in this nation.”
“Will we choose democracy over autocracy, light over shadow, justice over injustice? I know where I stand. I will not yield. I will not flinch,” he declared. “I will defend your right to vote and our democracy against all enemies foreign, yes and domestic! And so the question is where will the institution of the United States Senate stand?”
Biden on Tuesday also paid tribute to civil rights battles past - visiting Atlanta's historic Ebenezer Baptist Church, where the late Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. once held forth from the pulpit. He stood quietly as Martin Luther King III placed a wreath outside at the crypt of King and his wife, Coretta Scott King. And he referenced civil rights battles of the 1960s in his animated speech on the grounds of Morehouse College and Clark Atlanta University.
Vice President Kamala Harris spoke before Biden Tuesday, warning that a barrage of laws making it tougher to vote means there is “a danger of becoming accustomed to these laws, a danger of adjusting to these laws as though they are normal.”
“There is nothing normal about a law that makes it illegal to pass out water or food to people standing in long voter laws,” she said, to cheers.
Some voting rights advocates boycotted Biden's speech. Georgia Democratic gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams, known for her untiring voting rights work, also was skipping the event. The White House, meanwhile, sent out an unusually long list of attendees for the speech. Aides said Abrams had a conflict but didn’t explain further, though she tweeted support for the president.
Biden said before his trip the two had a scheduling mix-up but had spoken and were “all on the same page.”
When asked what he was risking politically by speaking out when there aren't enough votes to change the rules, he said: “I risk not saying what I believe. That’s what I risk. This is one of those defining moments. It really is. People are going to be judged on where were they before and where were they after the vote. History is going to judge us."
Voting rights advocates in Georgia and nationwide are increasingly anxious about what may happen in 2022 and beyond. They view the changes in many states as a subtler form of ballot restrictions like literacy tests and poll taxes once used to disenfranchise Black voters, a key Democratic constituency.
Republicans who have fallen in line behind Trump’s election misinformation are separately promoting efforts to influence future elections by installing sympathetic leaders in local election posts and by backing for elective office some of those who participated in the riot at the U.S. Capitol a year ago.
Democratic Sen. Raphael Warnock of Georgia, who is senior pastor at Ebenezer Baptist and made history as the first Black senator elected in Georgia, said that “anything that can happen that will continue to shine a bright light on the urgency of this issue is important.”
Georgia is at the center of it all, one of the key battleground states in the 2020 elections. After the votes were counted and recounted, Trump told a top state election official he wanted the official to “find” enough votes to overturn his loss. The state’s votes nonetheless went to Biden, and both of its Senate seats went to Democrats as well.
Last year, the Republican governor signed a sweeping rewrite of election rules that, among other things, gives the State Election Board new powers to intervene in county election offices and to remove and replace local election officials. That has led to concerns that the Republican-controlled state board could exert more influence over the administration of elections, including the certification of county results.
Congressional Democrats have written voting legislation that would usher in the biggest overhaul of U.S. elections in a generation by striking down hurdles to voting enacted in the name of election security, reducing the influence of big money in politics and limiting partisan influence over the drawing of congressional districts.
The package would create national election standards that would trump state-level GOP laws. It would also restore the ability of the Justice Department to police election laws in states with a history of discrimination.
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Brandon: "I'm tired of being quiet!"
Middle America:
Also -
EVERY. GODDAMN. TIME.
Middle America:
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EVERY. GODDAMN. TIME.
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Putting the face of a niggress on those gold dollar liberty coins sold by the US Mint wasn't enough now?
American Liberty One Ounce 225th Anniversary Gold Coin
2017 marks the 225 th anniversary of the United States Mint. To mark this momentous occasion, we are proud to introduce the 2017 American Liberty 225 th Anniversary Gold Coin featuring a modern rendition of Lady Liberty. Emblematic figures of liberty have graced American coins since the...
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In Clown World, the only god is the one who Honks.
True & Honest Fan
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The Stupidity is in taking him off, not putting him on.
You put him on then have the FBI "Violate his rights" and make the evidence against him useless.
Only A Retard Sometimes
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dont dementia patients regress in their mind to past times? maybe he has regressed back to thinking he is vice president again.
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Wouldn't he be saying Obama instead of Harris then?
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The actual numbers don't matter as much as they all have different methodologies. What matters are the trends. Is he polling upwards or downwards? Are his strong favorables increasing or decreasing etc.
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luckily these are commemorative coins and the design changes. also to give you a idea of how popular that design is, that coin is still available from the US mint direct despite only being minted for 1 year and only 100,000 coins. popular coins sell out immediately and have a pre-order and a limit of 1 coin per household. this coin had neither and they still have tons for sale.Putting the face of a niggress on those gold dollar liberty coins sold by the US Mint wasn't enough now?
American Liberty One Ounce 225th Anniversary Gold Coin
2017 marks the 225 th anniversary of the United States Mint. To mark this momentous occasion, we are proud to introduce the 2017 American Liberty 225 th Anniversary Gold Coin featuring a modern rendition of Lady Liberty. Emblematic figures of liberty have graced American coins since the...catalog.usmint.gov
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The US mint still has terrific sculpters in house but they are relegated to silver and gold because circulating money designs are sold for political favors, and the precious metal coins actually have to sell for a profit by law IIRC so they have to put out good shit. This years liberty design is a bucking bronco:
some past years:
My Fav is the throwback they did in 2016
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Imagine paying a $1000 upcharge on an oz of gold just to say you bought that ugly piece of shit.Putting the face of a niggress on those gold dollar liberty coins sold by the US Mint wasn't enough now?
American Liberty One Ounce 225th Anniversary Gold Coin
2017 marks the 225 th anniversary of the United States Mint. To mark this momentous occasion, we are proud to introduce the 2017 American Liberty 225 th Anniversary Gold Coin featuring a modern rendition of Lady Liberty. Emblematic figures of liberty have graced American coins since the...
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Jesus christ how the fuck is this actually uglier than the visage of Chris that was on the Kiwi Koins?
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Joe Manchin Lays Out Filibuster Changes He Supports
But the West Virginia senator still wants those changes to be made with support from Republicans.
Still wensday we will find out what happens but sounds cope
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Okay, Biden. It's your call lol. Jokes aside, the Unsures are fucking retarded at this point. They're androgynous, blobs even. The supporters have more balls than them.
If you stand for nothing, you're likely dead, because you're hanging suspended from something.
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I am amazed, this is so absurdly shortsighted that the only logical explanation is that they are ready to rig the next election by any means necessary, but history has a tendency to repeat itself.Joe Manchin Lays Out Filibuster Changes He Supports
But the West Virginia senator still wants those changes to be made with support from Republicans.www.huffpost.com
Still wensday we will find out what happens but sounds cope
They made tons of authoritarian tools during the Obama reign and all the tools they built under Obama where suddenly on Trumps hands and they didn't like it, now Biden is in office and are making more authoritarian tools for their next democrat puppet but they want to make sure nobody is able to vote republican ever again to avoid another Trump from taking their tools and bashing them
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I m gonna stand up for @Gehenna here on one point.
One nice thing that our dear leader and feeder null does by suffering host this place is his commitment to free speech, and promotion of anonymity.
This can give rise to people to speak more openly and candidly.
I used to read a website called somethingawful.com and it had a serious political discussion forum that for a few years was pretty good to read. people who knew their shit ether how to argue or experience on HUGE variety of topics could hash it out. Sadly that forum is a rotting corpse of it former self because of IPOL and group think etc.
Gehenna says he works for a political consulting firm, and basically talks shop, he openly pontificates his own theories and opinions and when he can he backs them up.
The insights he s brought to this thread off the top of my head are
1) the concept of political capital and how it relates to the current admin
2) explanation/theory for what is motivating the current admin
3) the only real insider info he provided has been that CNN is doing the political analysis for the current admin.
The fact a dude working for a state level firm is often engaged here is not because his insights are soo fucking salacious its because our current media is a fucking joke, ideally we should be able to turn to any fucking cable, channel or fuck a youtube channel and have educated people providing these kinda analysis and takes and we dont.
He doesnt have a youtube channel or twitter or newsletter he isnt running a grift or self promotion, that with his own disclaimers means people like me and others will put some stock into what he thinks or says.
finally if I m gonna shit on this side of the farms and this sub forum it will be this.
The world isnt fucking static its always in motion the conspiracy shit is annoying. The (((XXX))) have a plan thats been in the works for the last 200 years.
Did the (((XXX))) know the soviet union would collapse? Did the (((XXX))) know perot would split the vote and bring in the clintons? was trump put in power by (((XXX))) to serve (((XXX)))?
Oh yeah biden and all the shit we ve been seeing is all part of that plan from 10, 20, 2000 years ago.
And finally the way people view republicans is just fucking weird you all act like the forever wars and 2000-2008 never fucking happened.
The fucking wuflu it sounds like some chinese people were fucking around with a virus, of course someone fucked up. and then given the nature of chinese society, political and medical system every thing that could be done wrong was
1) the people working at the lab went to a hospital to be seen.
2) hopital staff spread it
3) local officials suppress knowledge
4) Its chinese new year so everyone travels
5) locals have a huge pot luck
6) WHO is compromised by china so they worry more about racism then being effective
The virus being realsed wasnt some master plan, if was a fuck up. And if this fucking virus was 1/10th as deadly as everyone yells about then 3 weeks after summer of love 2020 we woulda been better off.
Okay I m gonna stop ranting.
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Native Californians deserve a Haitian 2.0 revolution style cleansing to happen to them. They want the best of both worlds and it won't last long.
spinal gas chamber
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I agree with everything you said but think you meant this to be 10x, not 10%. Or maybe you meant 1/10 the BS rate, but I wanted 10x the BS rate for the summer of love. Whichever.
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how long till they just build a statue of freedom and make it out of human skin like this
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There were constant intra-FBI shenanigans involving Whitey Bulger. The lower ranks had no idea he was protected so they'd constantly try to go after him for being a mob boss only to run into complications from the upper ranks he had bought off. I've no doubt there was something similar involving Ray Epps, where the lower ranks go after the obvious provocateur before being sat down by their seniors and told he's a valuable asset. What kind of asset they don't mention. The young idealists have these quaint ideas like "rule of law" and "ethics" that might make them do something stupid like run to the media and say the FBI illegally precipitated the 1/6 protest.
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I needed the laugh this brought, thank you.
This, painfully this. Almost every firm has completely broken off with eachother. Nobody is sharing data anymore. And each is doing their own tweaks to match how they think the electorate actually is. Or tweaks just to make the Admin look better. It's a total clusterfuck. But the trends remain, and the trends tell much more accurate stoories.
This has been what Manchin has been saying he supports since the start of last year. And honestly, much like his own version of the voting law, I don't actually disagree with his arguments. The Filibuster is in fact broken, and that it currently suits my desires is beside the point. And his proposed changes aren't bad at all... of course, they also don't allow the Democrats to do what they want either.Joe Manchin Lays Out Filibuster Changes He Supports
But the West Virginia senator still wants those changes to be made with support from Republicans.
Still wensday we will find out what happens but sounds cope
Which is why this whole thing is a non-starter. No way even the Arch-RINOs vote for that voting bill. It actively hurts them and breaks basically every criterion for what RINOs will vote for. So even if every one of Manchin's changes were put in, there would still be nothing to pass. And the fact Manchin has made his support contingent on Republicans supporting them is just the cherry on the top.
I thank you for the vote of confidence. And in a way that makes me feel less... disgruntled. I try to pass on my own takes here, but they are from someone who could simply be wrong. Maybe my starting info was bad, or I missed an important piece, or simply just made a bad call. But either way I can be wrong. And should I ever be clearly wrong I will admit as such.
I am here because I actively enjoy what I do, I like pontificating on the state of the world and piecing together the grand puzzle that is human politics.
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And this is why I like hearing them. A well rationalized, reasonable train of thought starting from a flawed initial set of data can still teach you a lot. Anyone just reading your stuff and taking it at face value is an idiot for taking anything on kiwifarms at face value. But the descriptions of how and why that initial assumption turns into conclusions are applicable and useful to anyone thinking this stuff over - if we learn six months from now that part of your start was flawed, but we understand how you came to the rest of the conclusion, then we can adapt.
Its important to think for yourself, but there's no reason we can't learn to think like others do, and use it when its applicable.
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