Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

TinCan Wizard said:
There are no good SW youtubers. Either these grifters or literal Disney shills.
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I have found the evolution of Star Wars Explained amusing. A decent channel of a guy just explaining Star Wars lore slowly turning into "Disney Star Wars reluctantly Justified." Being a Disney shill, yet trying to cling onto the edges of criticism. Where he clearly knows he's a shill and you can see he's defeated by it.

Then on top of that the saga of his woke wife, who went from just popping up to help, to co-host. Maybe the main host slowly edging him out because she's a decent looking woman who likes Star Wars. Now he is constantly watching what he says to make sure she approves of what he says. Him couching his words to make sure she's nodding approval on the other side of the desk.
 
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I have found the evolution of Star Wars Explained amusing. A decent channel of a guy just explaining Star Wars lore slowly turning into "Disney Star Wars reluctantly Justified." Being a Disney shill, yet trying to cling onto the edges of criticism. Where he clearly knows he's a shill and you can see he's defeated by it.

Then on top of that the saga of his woke wife, who went from just popping up to help, to co-host. Maybe the main host slowly edging him out because she's a decent looking woman who likes Star Wars. Now he is constantly watching what he says to make sure she approves of what he says. Him couching his words to make sure she's nodding approval on the other side of the desk.
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In the words of the greatest Star Wars fan, “Get what deserve unfortunately.”
 
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The Gangster Computer said:
I like it as well. Although personally I prefer the audio drama over the comics myself, not that the comics aren't good; they have great art and visuals but it feels a bit rushed at times, but that's just me.

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This will never not annoy the fuck out of me. And this statement is made even more idiotic because a few weeks later after PlanIX's release, Disney released a guide that said Kaminoans weren't the only cloners around even in their nucanon, but then you have the Bad Batch tie-ins say that they are and even have Filoni bombard Kamino in the show itself just to make sure all survivors belong to Palpatine to further justify that dumb scene from PlanIX, which I think only exists because the guy who said that dumb line was a friend of JJ's who wanted a role in the movie.
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Also consider the fact that the line "Dark science. Cloning. Secrets only the Sith knew" was written by the same dumbass who wrote this line in The Force Awakens:
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Express RX-78 said:
Also consider the fact that the line "Dark science. Cloning. Secrets only the Sith knew" was written by the same dumbass who wrote this line in The Force Awakens:
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What do you expect from the genius who aimlessly plotted out Lost and the brilliant writer behind such wonderful scripts like Batman v Superman.
 
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Express RX-78 said:
It's sad that old Lucasfilm put more effort into making failed non-Star Wars IPs than Kennedyfilm. Sad, but predictable. All they make now is Starshit. They forced the Disney Wars films to happen when they shouldn't have right after buying the rights in a short amount of time, and they were all plagued with a ridiculous amount of problems per film. Indiana Jones 5 is a disaster in the making. Kennedy is incompetent. All they have now since The Fall of Skywalker came out is Indy 5 and no new Star Wars films (if you don't count Disney+ shows that might not even happen). They're lucky they have a multinational corporation ran by assholes keeping them afloat (Disney) or they'd be in serious trouble right now.

Nah that's Indy 5 if the rumors are true and it takes place during the Civil Rights Movement.
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Screamer said:
I wonder if we'll have characters lecturing to Indiana Jones about white privilege. The problematic way white people conduct archelogy around the world. Probably also something about how traumatic it is to see a white man with a whip.
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I remember making a prediction on how the movie would begin. Let's see if I'm right.
Rome's rightful successor said:
I can already tell what the opening of this movie will be:
Indy finds a lost artifact in the jungles of south america and takes it back to him to a museum in either the US or UK.
Then suddenly Two strong and empowered Black women of color show up and put the old cis white man that is Indy in his place.
"You evil CIS White old Man stole more of dat sheit form dem vulnerable indigenous POC?"
Geriatric Indiana jones is awstruck but such great and empwering black women of color and he can't seem to come to his senses exept to say one of his classic lines
"That belongs in a museum"
"How dare you you ebil NAZI COLONIZER! Dis is not your world anymore to take sheit from our kind!"
Indy is is left demoralized and jaded and can only say
"I used to punch the nazis back in the day and now I'm not sure if I'm any better then them now"
the museum curator trys to cheer up old man Indy but both know the world they once knew has long since passed and a new current year world is here.
Throughout the movie many jokes will be played at Indy and the old curator expense as the two has to adjust the current social-political climate of the present day.
I can't wait till the third act where we have to deal with Nasa, paperclip nazis, and some Transformers 3 or moonraker tier space plot. Like what the leaks suggests

seriously
No Spielberg, no Lucas
Director has a tantrum on twitter
Harrison Ford is 78 years old
Phoebe Waller-Bridge has her hands on the project
Kathleen Kenedy
The cast and crew as well as the only few story clues we have scream "we are going to put Indy in his place"
Who and I challenge anyone, who will want to watch this movie?
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Rome's rightful successor said:
I remember making a prediction on how the movie would begin. Let's see if I'm right.
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I think I read there are flashbacks, possible de-aging of Harrison Ford or stand-in. Which might be utilised by Star Wars TV, or might be why there are rumours it might be.

We know the film involves Nazi's. If you're a dumb studio executive trying to do a new Indiana Jones film. You need to go back to the originals, copy them, while adding a bunch of new stuff that shits all over them.

I bet there's a direct implication Indiana Jones was no better than Belloq and even though he fought Nazi's. He was no better than them. It is the insatiable desires of white men to invade and conquest. If Indy knew better he'd never have searched for the Ark. He lead the Nazi's to it. He should never have cooperated with Nazi's to find the grail.

I suspect it'll have flashbacks about the one great thing Indy was never able to do. Maybe even try and tie in the early films. They'll introduce a character that is meant to be the better non-white male version of Indiana Jones. Indy is skeptical at first, "you're a women." Yet with her displaying more knowledge and problem solving skills than HIM. She'll win him over. She'll also save him in a fight and beat up big males. As Indy bumbles around with little agency. She'll solve Indy's greatest quest. Then Indy will die, because all good male characters need to die on film now. Indy learns he is inferior and dies happy that the women will be a better version of him.
 
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Since Disney/LFL probably won't say it, I have some unfortunate news to share with anyone who grew up on the SW novels from the 90's:

As confirmed by his son on social media yesterday, notable Expanded Universe author Dave Wolverton, most famous for writing The Courtship of Princess Leia, has lost his battle with cancer and sadly passed away.

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For those not in the know, Wolverton had plenty of contributions to Star Wars, mostly in junior form like Star Wars Adventure Journal and the first entry in the Jedi Apprentice series, Rising Force, but Courtship of Princess Leia was undoubtedly his biggest contribution.

Why? Because despite some eccentric plotting and odd characterizations, the book was a touchstone entry for the Star Wars universe at large, since it introduced the planet Dathomir, its denizen Witches in all of their amazonian Rancor-riding glory, their brooding Nightsister contemporaries, and the far-flung matriarchal Hapese Consortium. With all of these additions, to say nothing of the introduction of continuity mainstays like Tenniel Djo and Prince Isolder, we wouldn't have had any of the evolving and growing Nightsister lore, and by extension, we wouldn't have had future Hapan characters like Troy Denning's lovable Zel Sisters, or Kevin J. Anderson's resoundingly endearing, stoic and stormy-eyed Hapan Jedi Girl...Tenel Ka Djo.

This marks the fourth major passing of an EU author in the last decade or so, following Ann C. Crispin in 2013 (author of the Han Solo Trilogy), Aaron Allston of X-Wing fame in 2014, and Vonda N. McIntyre (author of the Crystal Star) in 2019.

Rest in peace, Dave. For the fascinating lore and planet full of waifu material you have created, you have the thanks of both me and countless EU fans everywhere.

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Mississippi Motorboater said:
Since Disney/LFL probably won't say it, I have some unfortunate news to share with anyone who grew up on the SW novels from the 90's:

As confirmed by his son on social media yesterday, notable Expanded Universe author Dave Wolverton, most famous for writing The Courtship of Princess Leia, has lost his battle with cancer and sadly passed away.

For those not in the know, Wolverton had plenty of contributions to Star Wars, mostly in junior form like Star Wars Adventure Journal and the first entry in the Jedi Apprentice series, Rising Force, but Courtship of Princess Leia was undoubtedly his biggest contribution.

Why? Because despite some eccentric plotting and odd characterizations, the book was a touchstone entry for the Star Wars universe at large, since it introduced the planet Dathomir, its denizen Witches in all of their amazonian Rancor-riding glory, their brooding Nightsister contemporaries, and the far-flung matriarchal Hapese Consortium. With all of these additions, to say nothing of the introduction of continuity mainstays like Tenniel Djo and Prince Isolder, we wouldn't have had any of the evolving and growing Nightsister lore, and by extension, we wouldn't have had future Hapan characters like Troy Denning's lovable Zel Sisters, or Kevin J. Anderson's resoundingly endearing, stoic and stormy-eyed Hapan Jedi Girl...Tenel Ka Djo.

This marks the fourth major passing of an EU author in the last decade or so, following Ann C. Crispin in 2013 (author of the Han Solo Trilogy), Aaron Allston of X-Wing fame in 2014, and Vonda N. McIntyre (author of the Crystal Star) in 2019.

Rest in peace, Dave. For the fascinating lore and planet full of waifu material you have created, you have the thanks of both me and countless EU fans everywhere.

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I am sadden to hear it. Having just gone over that Era of Star Wars books, Courtship of Princess Leia was definitely my second favorite story(with Thrawn Trilogy being 1, and followed by also deceased Allston's Starfighters of Adumar).
 
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On the topic of Bo-Katan supposedly getting her own show, I wanna ask because this has bugged me for a while: What the fuck is the situation with the whole Dark Saber thing? Like, it's supposed to be 'Oh no, Bo-Katan has to kill Din to officially own it and she doesn't want to kill her new buddy.', but like... She doesn't? Disregarding how Bo has clearly shown how she's disregard Mando traditions and rules whenever it's convient for her prior, the whole reason this situation exists relies entirely on her losing the Saber without being killed. Moth Smooth got it from her without killing her. Then Din got it from him without killing him, right? So either the Moth didn't count, meaning it's still Bo's, or the Moth did count and thus Din should be able to give it back without killing her or dying himself.

Why is the ownership of this sword such an issue?
 
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I am honestly surprised Disney did not stick with a 2-3 year period between films like the prequel era did. Not only does that give more time to develop the story and see what works and what didn’t but you can also fill the gap between films with impactful and worthwhile cross media storytelling. Remember the clone wars multimedia project between episode 2 and 3 giving us tons of novels, comics and games that told the story of the clone wars?

I was in middle and high school for the prequels and I distinctly remember getting novels in the lead up to the new movies. The novels were always pretty interesting and you always felt like you were getting little hints at the story of the new movie. Nothing in the sequel era felt like this. I think I read the Wendig novel and the phasma one and I gave up in disgust since they were terribly written and gave no insight into the GFFA.
 
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wholetthegodsout said:
I am honestly surprised Disney did not stick with a 2-3 year period between films like the prequel era did. Not only does that give more time to develop the story and see what works and what didn’t but you can also fill the gap between films with impactful and worthwhile cross media storytelling. Remember the clone wars multimedia project between episode 2 and 3 giving us tons of novels, comics and games that told the story of the clone wars?

I was in middle and high school for the prequels and I distinctly remember getting novels in the lead up to the new movies. The novels were always pretty interesting and you always felt like you were getting little hints at the story of the new movie. Nothing in the sequel era felt like this. I think I read the Wendig novel and the phasma one and I gave up in disgust since they were terribly written and gave no insight into the GFFA.
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Disney's lack of planning when it comes to the sequel movies in general is kind of shocking, and I hope one day we get to find out exactly what the fuck happened.
 
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wholetthegodsout said:
I am honestly surprised Disney did not stick with a 2-3 year period between films like the prequel era did.
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I'm not. Think about it like this:
Disney spends 4 billion dollars on this franchise
Disney gives Lucasfilm 2 years to make each movie
Alternate between 1 mainline film and one spinoff for maximum profits
Spend one year in pre-production for one movie then go into post
Spend the year in post for one movie doing pre-production for the next one
Repeat

Disney's shareholders wanted a return on investment fast. The problem is Star Wars isn't the fucking MCU and shoving Star Wars flicks in people's faces every year got tiring, especially when every movie sucked. Most people stopped caring about the spinoffs after Rogue One (aka the one where they blew their load on ideas that they couldn't use again). TFA got away with being a shallow nostalgiafest but after TLJ most people just wanted them to tell a story, but they didn't. The sequel era as a whole sucks shit too. The only reason anybody cared about Episode 9 was the sunk cost and fleeting hope that they mystery boxes had answers (lol). Solo failing (thank God) and Disney not having a plan after Ep 9 put a stop to the one movie a year shit....for now.

I agree that they should have spent at minimum 3 years on every main film (and used George's treatments), but that was never going to happen. Also they hate George.
 
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Mississippi Motorboater said:
Since Disney/LFL probably won't say it, I have some unfortunate news to share with anyone who grew up on the SW novels from the 90's:

As confirmed by his son on social media yesterday, notable Expanded Universe author Dave Wolverton, most famous for writing The Courtship of Princess Leia, has lost his battle with cancer and sadly passed away.

For those not in the know, Wolverton had plenty of contributions to Star Wars, mostly in junior form like Star Wars Adventure Journal and the first entry in the Jedi Apprentice series, Rising Force, but Courtship of Princess Leia was undoubtedly his biggest contribution.

Why? Because despite some eccentric plotting and odd characterizations, the book was a touchstone entry for the Star Wars universe at large, since it introduced the planet Dathomir, its denizen Witches in all of their amazonian Rancor-riding glory, their brooding Nightsister contemporaries, and the far-flung matriarchal Hapese Consortium. With all of these additions, to say nothing of the introduction of continuity mainstays like Tenniel Djo and Prince Isolder, we wouldn't have had any of the evolving and growing Nightsister lore, and by extension, we wouldn't have had future Hapan characters like Troy Denning's lovable Zel Sisters, or Kevin J. Anderson's resoundingly endearing, stoic and stormy-eyed Hapan Jedi Girl...Tenel Ka Djo.

This marks the fourth major passing of an EU author in the last decade or so, following Ann C. Crispin in 2013 (author of the Han Solo Trilogy), Aaron Allston of X-Wing fame in 2014, and Vonda N. McIntyre (author of the Crystal Star) in 2019.

Rest in peace, Dave. For the fascinating lore and planet full of waifu material you have created, you have the thanks of both me and countless EU fans everywhere.

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RIP but I never liked that novel. I haven't read it since I was a kid but even then I was pissed at the YOU GO GIRL attitude it had at Leia just dropping Han like a bad habit because a hotter guy came into her life. And before you say that's baysed, the rest of the story is Han simping like a mofo to try and get her back. It's pathetic.
 
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