US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Another Sperg on the Net]

Let's not pretend that the glowies haven't spent the last 80 years subverting Latin American governments that go against what the US wants.

In an ideal world Eastern Europe would be neutral and wouldn't be part of this new Great Game the West seems set on playing. Unfortunately this isn't an ideal world and we seem bent on surrounding Russia with Western allies, so it's understandable why the Russians see that as a threat and want their own allies in the region.

Imagine how the media in America would react if Mexico said it wanted to become a Russian (or even better, a Chinese) ally and would let Russia put nukes and base troops on its soil. Then ask yourself why you have a problem with the Russians feeling the same about the Ukraine.

Nah, that was these guys.

The irony of all this is that this isn't some new "great game" being engineered by the West. Eastern European nations naturally drew closer to the west as a hedge against Russian aggression after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the best way for Putin to keep a neutral Ukraine os to do the opposite of what he is doing, he has created a self fulfilling prophecy.

 

[Gehenna]

I don't think they have anything after this. They only had a years worth of plans it seems.

It is not that they only had a years worth of plans. In fact, these were all supposed to be passed within months of Biden getting office, Rather, its that every single plan they had for after them hinged on them existing.

 

[The Last Stand]

After she literally works her husband to death I'm sure Ms. Biden will have some Memoirs written up. A nice loud sob story about how the stress of fighting the evil Trumpnazis killed Saint Biden the Thoughtless.

It's DOCTOR Biden.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

She was a Goldwater Republican (aka "far-right," before the term was bureaucratized).

She'd worked for Goldwater, but I thought she got in trouble for unethical behavior. Hillary's main goal has always been political power though.

If you want a real fun trip down the education rabbit hole look up her involvement in School-to-Work in the 90s.

 

[Meat Target]

Because Wikipedia, Snopes and the AP would call it a far-right conspiracy theory site, Facebook would block links to it, and so the only people that would read it would already be on the right making it a completely pointless exercise.

Which is why I think the Right needs to keep fighting for its presence on mainstream social media, instead of retreating to the alt-tech ghettos.

 

[Oxous]

This sounds like the Democrats pushing even harder to the extreme left and somehow increasing the level of polarization in our society. What's the endgame here? What would an even more prog-centered Democratic Party try to do in 2024?

The endgame is that a progressive Democratic Party would just lose Democrats in red and purple states due to attrition, while trying to increase progressive turnout as much as possible in the solid blue strongholds and cities to compensate.

If the Democratic Party were hypothetically to be taken over by the progressives in the next 1-2 years, they would try to run someone who is fully compliant with the progressive gospel - definitely a female POC - and then quadruple down on the racist anti-white rhetoric after losing massively to Trump, thus solidifying their irrelevance.

If Biden had half a brain (yes I know) he'd pull a Clinton and run against his own party. Reach out to RINOs, pass some populist legislation, get tough on crime, get the border mess under control. It probably wouldn't be enough to stop the GOP winning the mid terms but it would save his Presidency. Why doesn't he?

There is, quite frankly, too much bad blood on the right to make this even worth considering. Biden at this point needs to worry about reaching out to the media to ensure CNN doesn't turn on him and begin painting him and his presidency in a bad lights. It's already beginning to happen but there's still time to stop it.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

The irony of all this is that this isn't some new "great game" being engineered by the West. Eastern European nations naturally drew closer to the west as a hedge against Russian aggression after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the best way for Putin to keep a neutral Ukraine os to do the opposite of what he is doing, he has created a self fulfilling prophecy.

Yes and no. The problem, from Russia's perspective, is the scizophrenia from America's leadership. Trump's foreign policy wasn't interested in internationalism or useless money sinks, so NATO expansion (especially into a very ex ex-soviet republic) was off the table. Then Biden gets fortified into office by methods I'm sure Vlad is very familiar with, and suddenly we have the bastard offspring of the Obama and Carter foreign policies nominally managed by a man with Kraft Mac'n'cheese between his ears. So now Zelensky's au-courant-for-2005 foreign policy ambitions suddenly become possible, and Russia needs to chance course hard in order to keep it's buffer state. Without enforceable guarantees that Ukraine won't become party to a hostile alliance, assuming direct control of strategic regions may be the least-worst option.

Unless they want to turn this into a Tom Clancy novel and apply for NATO membership themselves.

 

[CrippleThreat]

now that zoomers are pretty old, 22 tops, what do we call the next generation?

LMAO, or the Sam Hyde's declaration made manifest.

Back on the topic of Zoomers, you all know my "Based Black" takes, but I looked into something: David Hogg (21) is a year older than me.

Needless to say, I would have became as greypilled as Lorne, but thankfully Zoomers like John Doyle also exist.

 

[Psyduck]

Fucked. We call them Fucked.

Oh i bet you'd love that Lorne

 

[Jaimas]

Which brings up a question I've asked many many times before.

With Snopes being used as a Credibility Sink by the left (1000 people saying "no that's wrong" doesn't have the impact of a 1000 people pointing to an "accredited fact checker") -- why hasn't the right done the exact same thing? Create something neutral sounding (don't call it PatriotFacts or something jfc) and debunk the left's lies. Then the right can point at it and go "No, fact checkers say that Biden actually DID shit his pants in front of the pope. See?"

Because they don't fucking care. They'll lock onto anything to justify themselves, even if it's nakedly incorrect. And that's a feature, not a fucking bug. Look at any fucking major shitstorm in the last decade, and you'll see that the gulf between what actually happened and what these idiots think happened is fucking vast. Part of this, owing to the media, is not their fault, but the ones permanently plugged into Social Media 100% embrace this paradigm, and they refuse to even countenance anything that would prove them wrong.

What's weird is that it wasn't always like this. There were things that they'd always disregard you if you went against the grain on, but most of the time, if you had the right argument, you could convince them that you had a point and give them something to think about. This changed, however, when the hard-left types basically overran the left's communities around 2010. When that happened, the new rulers of these place essentially made dissent verboten. They chased away independents and potential allies formerly on the right, then mercilessly persecuted the moderates until they were afraid to speak up. You can ask anyone who was on a Dem-leaning website around 2006 and stuck around until 2012, and they could tell you, in real time, how their community came to be utterly dominated by these clowns - and that gets to why they react this way: You even questioning this shit means that you're doubting the tenets of their faith.

They react, chapter and verse, the exact same way that the Moral Majority clowns did on certain topics - not with accepting the new information, but with vitriol for you for daring to bring something that runs counter to their worldview to the table. Even if you were perfectly respectful and even reverent of their beliefs, it didn't matter; the fact that you had the gall to challenge it in any capacity in the first place meant you needed to be disregarded immediately.

Think back just a few years, and remember how many people claimed Kyle Rittenhouse shot black people, or that Trump never condemned the shitheads in Charlottesville. The real videos are both out there and readily available, the video evidence utterly destroys the talking points, but these people won't fucking believe it, even if it's staring them in the face. For many of them, you can't address them with facts; you need to react like you're dealing with one of the Pat Robertson types from the 90s, and plan accordingly.

 

[Salubrious]

Because they don't fucking care. They'll lock onto anything to justify themselves, even if it's nakedly incorrect. And that's a feature, not a fucking bug. Look at any fucking major shitstorm in the last decade, and you'll see that the gulf between what actually happened and what these idiots think happened is fucking vast. Part of this, owing to the media, is not their fault, but the ones permanently plugged into Social Media 100% embrace this paradigm, and they refuse to even countenance anything that would prove them wrong.

What's weird is that it wasn't always like this. There were things that they'd always disregard you if you went against the grain on, but most of the time, if you had the right argument, you could convince them that you had a point and give them something to think about. This changed, however, when the hard-left types basically overran the left's communities around 2010. When that happened, the new rulers of these place essentially made dissent verboten. They chased away independents and potential allies formerly on the right, then mercilessly persecuted the moderates until they were afraid to speak up. You can ask anyone who was on a Dem-leaning website around 2006 and stuck around until 2012, and they could tell you, in real time, how their community came to be utterly dominated by these clowns - and that gets to why they react this way: You even questioning this shit means that you're doubting the tenets of their faith.

They react, chapter and verse, the exact same way that the Moral Majority clowns did on certain topics - not with accepting the new information, but with vitriol for you for daring to bring something that runs counter to their worldview to the table. Even if you were perfectly respectful and even reverent of their beliefs, it didn't matter; the fact that you had the gall to challenge it in any capacity in the first place meant you needed to be disregarded immediately.

Think back just a few years, and remember how many people claimed Kyle Rittenhouse shot black people, or that Trump never condemned the shitheads in Charlottesville. The real videos are both out there and readily available, the video evidence utterly destroys the talking points, but these people won't fucking believe it, even if it's staring them in the face. For many of them, you can't address them with facts; you need to react like you're dealing with one of the Pat Robertson types from the 90s, and plan accordingly.

This is very much spot on, but let me simplify it a bit.

TL;DR - If CNN/MSNBC didn't say it, then it just didn't happen. If FOX/Daily Wire/Outkick says it, then it's automatically wrong because it's "right-wing". That's why a "right-wing" fact checking source won't work.

I was in discussions back in 2020 when I actually cared, I would link to a news source, and my friend's entire counterargument was "that's the Washington Examiner, which is right-wing biased." He legitimately thought he shut down the entire argument with that. Didn't even care if the article was actually correct or not.

I've linked people to the CDC website with actual COVID statistics, and was still accused of "spreading misinformation."

As you said, I've seen people were you can literally link them to even a CNN article showing that Kyle Rittenhouse shot three white guys, and they'll refuse to read it and call you racist for defending Kyle.

 

[Snekposter]

It's more common to see pineapple pizza in the middle east. Turks love that shit, and they put mayonnaise and ketchup on it.

As if we needed anymore proof they were little but vermin...

Yes and no. The problem, from Russia's perspective, is the scizophrenia from America's leadership. Trump's foreign policy wasn't interested in internationalism or useless money sinks, so NATO expansion (especially into a very ex ex-soviet republic) was off the table. Then Biden gets fortified into office by methods I'm sure Vlad is very familiar with, and suddenly we have the bastard offspring of the Obama and Carter foreign policies nominally managed by a man with Kraft Mac'n'cheese between his ears. So now Zelensky's au-courant-for-2005 foreign policy ambitions suddenly become possible, and Russia needs to chance course hard in order to keep it's buffer state. Without enforceable guarantees that Ukraine won't become party to a hostile alliance, assuming direct control of strategic regions may be the least-worst option.

Unless they want to turn this into a Tom Clancy novel and apply for NATO membership themselves.

Trouble is the Russians invaded Crimea in what year again? Its one of those things that's been in existence for so long its hard to keep track of when exactly it happened, but I'm pretty sure it was Obama's second term. So what you have is Barack "I'll have more flexibility after the election" Obama essentially offering the Donbass to Russia on a silver platter, and that basically forces the rest of the country to adopt a pro-Western, pro-NATO stance hard because there's a very real risk Putin might not stop with just the Russian half of the country. So now unless Ukraine wants to completely submit to the Russian bear, they absolutely need to curry favor with the West in order to survive.

People also need to remember Ukraine cut a deal with Russia. They handed over all of their Cold War nuclear weapons, and Russia guaranteed their security. When your protector just goes "Whoops, sorry, I lied, have an invasion force" when it comes to protecting you, of course you'll go find someone else to help defend your interests. They have less than zero reason to side with Putin or trust any assurances of his.

 

[HandsomeDan]

By the way, with tax season underway, be on the lookout for the hilarity when due to the asinine "child credit advance" everyone realizes at best their "refund" is smaller this year and at worse will be writing a check to DC.

Its already starting to pop up on other discussion boards.

 

[Gehenna]

It is not that they only had a years worth of plans. In fact, these were all supposed to be passed within months of Biden getting office, Rather, its that every single plan they had for after them hinged on them existing.

By the way, continuing from this. When you stop and realize that they only wanted to pass anything else in their plan, or even mention it, after both BBB and Voting Rights is done... you go down some dark alleys of thought.

just stop and consider, they didn't even want to -say- what their further plans were until they paid off all their debts, secured the prog wing... and ensured they could never be voted out.

 

[Terrifik]

Hello Friends

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[HumanHive]

Hello Friends

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[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

LMAO, or the Sam Hyde's declaration made manifest.

Back on the topic of Zoomers, you all know my "Based Black" takes, but I looked into something: David Hogg (21) is a year older than me.

Needless to say, I would have became as greypilled as Lorne, but thankfully Zoomers like John Doyle also exist.

I would have never figured that you're a 20 year old black guy

 

[Aidan]

I would have never figured that you're a 20 year old black guy

Good on you for not seeing race!

 

[HandsomeDan]

So no ID for voting due to racism.

...but filming you by the IRS to use their shitty website is A OK!

 

[Constellationzero]

I've linked people to the CDC website with actual COVID statistics, and was still accused of "spreading misinformation."

In the case of my 81 year old dad... "I'M NOT READING THAT!"
When I offered, as diplomatically as I could, to gather, collate, and send him legitimate DIRECT sources about cOvId and bRaNdOn'S fuck-ups.
"GREATEST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF EVER!"

...sigh...