US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Memento Malum]

Roosevelt's statue has been removed f

Medora is a nice little tourist trap; good campgrounds and lots of wilderness hiking and riding to be had. They like Teddy there; be nice for them to get a good statue.

Roosevelt wore dresses as a child and was a sickly sissy

You just ignoring the latter half of his life? Motherfucker rode a horse up a hill to steep to ride under enemy fire while mostly blind.

 

[Gehenna]

I'm surprised rural America still votes for Democrats at all. Most Democrats are urban people and have no idea what rural life is like, and their policies have almost nothing to offer rural dwellers. Democrat policies are city-centric and always will be, and they all view rural people are idiot bumpkins to begin with (even though they insist otherwise, we've all known these people in private).

Thanks to the influence of Millennial conservatives, the Republican party, at least certain segments of it, are becoming a little less retarded, although that might be totally undone by the Trump cult of personality which is more concerned with macho swagger and "stickin' it to the libs" than seeking actual substance. You even have Republicans pushing for marijuana legalization, that's something. The Republican party may just end up being the more moderate, more permissive party in the future, given how authoritarian the left wing mindset has become. Because the Religious Right is mostly dead and gone, and as much as the left wants to pretend the fundamentalists still control the Republican party, right now anarchist and communist chic is gripping the left wing and they're more fundamentalist than most Republican Christians.

A lot of old Blue Dogs retired to the rural areas over the last 100 years. This is part of why it has been ignored by the Democrats who assumed these long-time Democrat voters would stay long-time Democrat voters. To many Democrat politicians, they saw absolutely no difference between these Rural old Democrats and the punky college kid in the heart of New York.

 

[Ruin]

I think after the press conference Republicans smell blood in the water. Biden is too weak to defend himself and even Congressional Democrats and the media are abandoning him.

I'd expect things to get much worse for the Biden administration in the next two weeks.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

A lot of old Blue Dogs retired to the rural areas over the last 100 years. This is part of why it has been ignored by the Democrats who assumed these long-time Democrat voters would stay long-time Democrat voters. To many Democrat politicians, they saw absolutely no difference between these Rural old Democrats and the punky college kid in the heart of New York.

Add to that, a lot of the elderly voters in those areas still talk about their grandparents who were saved from starvation by working for the WPA.

 

[Gehenna]

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Welcome to the true impact of the twin rulings. The OSHA injunction is obvious for how it sets precedent, but the health worker one was also damning in conjunction.

The Health worker one wasn't injuncted specifically because it was argued poorly, and its legal grounds were less stridently wrong. But Kavanaugh and Roberts both made it fairly clear that they ruled purely on procedural grounds and very clearly left the door open on challenging it properly.


Any judge handling these cases now has one clear condemnation and one case of "Ah, probably wrong, but argued badly", letting the weight of the precedent be pretty heavy to one side.

 

[Mister DNA]

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The nationwide injunctions that Trump-hating partisan judges were rubber stamping like crazy from 2017-2020 set a hilarious precedent. It really is astonishing how little regard Democrats give to even the near future when they take action. The thought that “hey, this could be used against us one day” seems to have legitimately not occurred to them.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

A lot of old Blue Dogs retired to the rural areas over the last 100 years. This is part of why it has been ignored by the Democrats who assumed these long-time Democrat voters would stay long-time Democrat voters. To many Democrat politicians, they saw absolutely no difference between these Rural old Democrats and the punky college kid in the heart of New York.

The county my parents live in has been rural democrat majority for ages, but always voted in Republicans for national office. Part of that is the Ohio Dems being idiotic and trying to run progressives because 2nd district has half of Cincinnati in it. Smartest thing the state GOP ever did was split Cincinnati between two districts and attach enough rural population to balance it out. It makes the state Dem rage so damn much.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

The nationwide injunctions that Trump-hating partisan judges were rubber stamping like crazy from 2017-2020 set a hilarious precedent. It really is astonishing how little regard Democrats give to even the near future when they take action. The thought that “hey, this could be used against us one day” seems to have legitimately not occurred to them.

Their goal is one-Party rule. They assume, therefore, that once they’ve achieved that goal that the shoe will never end up on the other foot. That’s why they never seem concerned that their methods may one day be used against them. Thank God they’ve failed thus far.

 

[Jaimas]

I think that Pelosi realized they had a tiget by the tail and couldn't let go of it right after the government shutdown a couple of years ago That's when she seemed to personally deteriorate. Since then, it's been ever more outlandish and ridiculous attempts to try to change the momentum of the party and its supporters.

From starting WW3 due to Solameini, to the impeachment farce, to (in my opinion) knowing about Covid about the time Solameini was killed, or at latest during the congressional part of the impeachment, I think she either knew of it, or was part of its release. To election fucketry, to the tech companies getting more draconian, to George Floyd and all that entailed, to bullshit interpretations of January 6th, I think she realizes the tail cannot be let go of. I think the corruption in this fall's election is going to be through the roof. Too many in the democratic party and supporters could be facing all sorts of investigations.

I bet they are fortifying the swamp like mad right now to prevent the blowback they will get if they lose in November.

I think they just have no idea how to let go of the tiger's tail right now, and maybe were hoping they could heap it all on Biden, but have realized that won't work. I bet they wish the wokesters would just shut up, but they keep on feeding the tiger meth instead.

I agree, but the problem (for them) they have is that they don't have the ability to pull the kind of shit they did in 2020. Disregard for a moment the burgeoning civil war in the Dem establishment and enough of them seeing the writing on the wall that nearly 30 Dem representatives are retiring/fucking off this year - they have no political capital and certainly no money, to pull the kind of shit they did back in 2020 with the fortification attempts. The budget fracas was supposed to address both of those problems, but that shit's dead on arrival, and with it, so too are their ability to competently defraud the electorate.

It gets worse, too. It isn't just the Dem representatives themselves fucking off; they have no one able to replace them with anything resembling competence because, as I discussed in my earlier post on the matter, the establishment swapped from their base to the hard lefties because they were thought to be more controllable - they weren't as ambitious, and they were easier to manipulate into getting what they wanted. Even better, they could - and did - help quash grassroots activist efforts. However, this was contingent on them having suitable management to keep them focused and on task, and a merciless combination of the march of time and neoprogressive entryism has assured that that management - literally the lifeblood of the Dems' ground game - is gone now, and with Biden getting so much of the progressive base pissed at him by repeatedly fucking over their core policies, they can't even begin to leverage the same power they had in 2016, let alone 2020 when all the parts of the machine were working properly. Think how many groups that are the lifeblood of the Dems' ground game got fucked in the ass by his administration the second he took office. Do you think any of those, which the ground game relies on, will come back? Because past precedent shows they fucking won't. To use a military analogy ya boi @Jet Fuel Johnny would approve of: their field commanders are mostly gone, their squad leaders are wholly incapable to step up to the plate to replace them because they did away with proper chain of command, they sold out parts of their army for expedience, their morale is in the toilet, they haven't gotten resupplied in ages, and none of this is going to change any time soon. Their ground game - the biggest advantage the Dems have - is fucked in everything but name.

They have no political capital, their finances are in tatters, their popularity is in the toilet, the media can't keep control of the narrative, and there's no way they can recover from any of it.

Even Pelosi wanted to retire this year, only to be pressured into staying. If you're the kind of person who believes in the Trump Curse, then demolishing the Dem establishment will be its biggest casualty to date. For everyone else, this is catharsis on a level few of us in the political sphere ever get to enjoy. Breathe deep.... And savor the impending terror.

 

[Salubrious]

He'd probably feel more at home there.

Makes me think of this article.
>Republicans have never had a demographic stronghold as reliable as Black voters have been for Democrats, a group that delivers as many as nine out of 10 votes for the party. But some Democratic leaders are now sounding the alarm: What if rural, white voters — of which there are many — start voting that reliably Republican?

>“In rural America the bottom for the Democratic Party is zero,” said Ethan Winter, a senior analyst at the group Data for Progress, who studies voter behavior. “I am serious about this.”

They better start worrying about rural black males. Gehenna said that demographic is approaching 50%, and from my experience I can believe it; they do not like city niggas and their gib me dats.

Youngkin won at least one district that was 50%+ black. That should scare the shit out of the DNC.

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

Doomers are fine, and as much as "McAuliffe is going to steal the governorship from an inaugurated Youngkin" is exceptional and funny, they're still decent to speak with.

What perturbs me are people who are clearly and completely demoralized, like a certain clock-flinging Irishman who vanished from this site long ago. Their knowledge of history was interesting and they were a great poster, but their contempt for anyone uttering anything positive oozed from their words, to the point where it became unbearable. And you know they're right, but fuck...

"clock flinging Irishman"

That rings a bell, can you remind me who that was? Might have noticed it while browsing older threads. I only joined this site months ago and was definitely not on here in 2020 on an account that got banned after I committed account suicide to start spending more time in real life.

 

[Gehenna]

They better start worrying about rural black males. Gehenna said that demographic is approaching 50%, and from my experience I can believe it; they do not like city niggas and their gib me dats.

Youngkin won at least one district that was 50%+ black. That should scare the shit out of the DNC.

Approaching 50% -in Wisconsin-. I am going to stress that, because usually hard swings in votes like that are very much regional and I have no data from other states.

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

I'm surprised rural America still votes for Democrats at all. Most Democrats are urban people and have no idea what rural life is like, and their policies have almost nothing to offer rural dwellers. Democrat policies are city-centric and always will be, and they all view rural people are idiot bumpkins to begin with (even though they insist otherwise, we've all known these people in private).

Thanks to the influence of Millennial conservatives, the Republican party, at least certain segments of it, are becoming a little less retarded, although that might be totally undone by the Trump cult of personality which is more concerned with macho swagger and "stickin' it to the libs" than seeking actual substance. You even have Republicans pushing for marijuana legalization, that's something. The Republican party may just end up being the more moderate, more permissive party in the future, given how authoritarian the left wing mindset has become. Because the Religious Right is mostly dead and gone, and as much as the left wants to pretend the fundamentalists still control the Republican party, right now anarchist and communist chic is gripping the left wing and they're more fundamentalist than most Republican Christians.

>Trump cult of personality which is more concerned with macho swagger and "stickin' it to the libs" than seeking actual substance

Stickin it to the libs and macho swagger are both noble endeavors, and therefore do count as 'actual substance.' The types of people on the right who lament both of those things tend to be effete doomers and faggot NeverTrumpers. It's rare to see anyone on the right who like stickin it to the libs and macho swagger who at the same time doesn't care about substantive issues. That's a strawman certain cancerous ilk have dreamed up.

Approaching 50% -in Wisconsin-. I am going to stress that, because usually hard swings in votes like that are very much regional and I have no data from other states.

Interesting, what makes you think rural blacks in Wisconsin are going to vote 50% R? Is it direct experience? That's a provocative prediction.

 

[Gehenna]

Interesting, what makes you think rural blacks in Wisconsin are going to vote 50% R? Is it direct experience? That's a provocative prediction.

You said you are new, so let me get this out of the way.

I am a political analyst working out of Wisconsin. I occasionally drop tidbits from work, my employer allowing, and provide my general takes on national politics based off of a mix of what I see here and the occasional bit of background info from my employment. Please take everything I say with a grain of salt though, I am working with secondhand info and I could always just be wrong.

The 50% thing though is fact, that polling was surprising and made the guy who commissioned the report fucking terrified.

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

You said you are new, so let me get this out of the way.

I am a political analyst working out of Wisconsin. I occasionally drop tidbits from work, my employer allowing, and provide my general takes on national politics based off of a mix of what I see here and the occasional bit of background info from my employment. Please take everything I say with a grain of salt though, I am working with secondhand info and I could always just be wrong.

The 50% thing though is fact, that polling was surprising and made the guy who commissioned the report fucking terrified.

Haha I wonder if the guy who commissioned the report works for Tony Evers or Mandela Barnes?

And yeah, I'm definitely new and have never made any posts on a banned account in 2020, so it's interesting to meet all of you in this thread because I definitely never interacted with any KF posters that year haha especially not anyone in this thread.

 

[HandsomeDan]

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Interesting, what makes you think rural blacks in Wisconsin are going to vote 50% R? Is it direct experience? That's a provocative prediction.

Direct experience in the rural areas of the true South. Rural blacks do not like the idea of troons being near their children and dont want to see fags conducting sex acts on the public street. They also dont hate their white neighbors or see them as evil, just like rural whites they just want to be left alone and free to live among their own people.

if they could all ever be be freed of the govt assistance they would be a reliable voting block. keep in mind these are out in the country blacks Im talking about, not suburban blacks. They may be a small group, but culturally are very similar to rural whites.

 

[Gehenna]

https://mobile.twitter.com/cam_langford/status/1484543280889147394?t=fJfZsdTjVYwyEnJQ58GFUg&s=19

Direct experience in the rural areas of the true South. Rural blacks do not like the idea of troons being near their children and dont want to see fags conducting sex acts on the public street. They also dont hate their white neighbors or see them as evil, just like rural whites they just want to be left alone and free to live among their own people.

if they could all ever be be freed of the govt assistance they would be a reliable voting block. keep in mind these are out in the country blacks Im talking about, not suburban blacks. They may be a small group, but culturally are very similar to rural whites.

I have a pretty good lead-in to the rural vote for blacks, Mainly because my mentor, the man who I will always praise up and down, who taught me everything I know... is a rural black man. The man is fucking ancient now and could tell you stories about growing up in Jim Crow, personally shaking MLKs hand, and working directly for five separate presidents.

He also is a former Democrat who absolutely loathes the modern Democrats and never wastes an opportunity to call the urban blacks niggers. One of my most cherished memories is the look on some up-and-coming politician's face when he asked "Should I worry about the black vote in Milwaukee" and this at the time sixty-year old black guy just goes "Why would you care about them damn niggers".

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

>Trump cult of personality which is more concerned with macho swagger and "stickin' it to the libs" than seeking actual substance

Stickin it to the libs and macho swagger are both noble endeavors, and therefore do count as 'actual substance.' The types of people on the right who lament both of those things tend to be effete doomers and faggot NeverTrumpers. It's rare to see anyone on the right who like stickin it to the libs and macho swagger who at the same time doesn't care about substantive issues. That's a strawman certain cancerous ilk have dreamed up.

Trump himself exemplifies that. Trump is not an idea guy, he is not particularly bright, and he's got a massive ego. This is all stuff even some of his friends admit, before he was even president. I get that most Trump supporters aren't blithering retards, but just look at a lot of the stuff the Trump wing has done... QAnon, the Capitol riot, cringe "meme magic." What did Trump really get done while in office, on his big promises? He barely has a handle on modern culture and current events, is basically just briefed on things by his aides, and his opinions change depending on who he is trying to impress and what the last person who spoke to him said to him.

I'd be surprised if Trump has even read a book in his life. Trump was all about soundbites and his biggest fans were just okay with that.

Then there's Trump's horrible handling of the culture war shit. Trump truly did not really understand what was going on. He wasn't some warrior against political correctness, he barely understood where it was coming from. The worst thing about Trump was that we had a true maverick in the White House and he wasted a lot of it by being self-obsessed and completely ignorant. Trump's fans liked to imagine Trump was something he wasn't. He was never going to be a serious contender against political correctness since he has no understanding of civics, the constitution, and history. Trump is undereducated, vapid, and and impulsive. Trump wasn't even that warm to the second amendment. Blustering and snark is not real political work. Just look at AOC.

And I voted for Trump the first time around, didn't vote the prior election.

Or do you still think everything going on now is Trump's 4D chess? Ridiculous that his biggest fans insisted he was some amazing puppetmaster. Guy very clearly does not understand a lot of things. Trump is not an intelligent person, he's actually fairly stupid. The fact that he revealed just how stupid everyone else is merely by not being part of the machine or woke doesn't mean he had substance.

 

[Gehenna]

Trump himself exemplifies that. Trump is not an idea guy, he is not particularly bright, and he's got a massive ego. This is all stuff even some of his friends admit, before he was even president. I get that most Trump supporters aren't blithering retards, but just look at a lot of the stuff the Trump wing has done... QAnon, the Capitol riot, cringe "meme magic." What did Trump really get done while in office, on his big promises? He barely has a handle on modern culture and current events, is basically just briefed on things by his aides, and his opinions change depending on who he is trying to impress and what the last person who spoke to him said to him.

I'd be surprised if Trump has even read a book in his life. Trump was all about soundbites and his biggest fans were just okay with that.

Then there's Trump's horrible handling of the culture. Trump truly did not really understand what was going on. He wasn't some warrior against political correctness, he barely understood where it was coming from. The worst thing about Trump was that we had a true maverick in the White House and he wasted a lot of it by being self-obsessed. Trump's fans liked to imagine Trump was something he wasn't. He was never going to be a serious contender against political correctness since he has no understanding of civics, the constitution, and history. Trump is undereducated, vapid, and and impulsive. Trump wasn't even that warm to the second amendment. Blustering and snark is not real political work. Just look at AOC.

And I voted for Trump the first time around, didn't vote the prior election.

A record Economy
Historic peace and progress between the Koreas.
Peace in the Balkans
Peace in the Middle-East
ISIS crushed
Record low black unemployment
The bloody USMCA

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

>Trump cult of personality which is more concerned with macho swagger and "stickin' it to the libs" than seeking actual substance

Stickin it to the libs and macho swagger are both noble endeavors, and therefore do count as 'actual substance.' The types of people on the right who lament both of those things tend to be effete doomers and faggot NeverTrumpers. It's rare to see anyone on the right who like stickin it to the libs and macho swagger who at the same time doesn't care about substantive issues. That's a strawman certain cancerous ilk have dreamed up.

Especially since "macho swagger" has been money left on the table for a generation or more. Sure you had the occasional loudmouth who could get bullied into apologizing in a single press conference, but aggressively not giving a fuck drove political engagement. It's a posture, but one that drove eyes and votes. Look at his inroads into the Hispanic voters.