US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[X Prime]

For someone who made a Q&A thread about how terrible liberals are, you appear to have been trying to meet them halfway @Harbinger of Kali Yuga. Foolish.

 

[Rustic Ruthenian]

No, every single war since the end of WWII has been fought against third world countries and embarrassingly we've actually lost several of those conflicts. We have no non speculative data on how the U.S would fare against actual world superpowers but recent threat analysis and war games suggests we'd either lose to China and Russia or win but suffer so many losses it would cripple the nation.

China and Russia would also collapse if they could win, and likely worse than the USA would. Both have aging populations and a costly war that takes even more young men out of the economy would compound the problem.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Especially since "macho swagger" has been money left on the table for a generation or more. Sure you had the occasional loudmouth who could get bullied into apologizing in a single press conference, but aggressively not giving a fuck drove political engagement. It's a posture, but one that drove eyes and votes. Look at his inroads into the Hispanic voters.

Some people really need to read Art of the Deal and then go watch the speech in Patton, and if you don't understand why, I can't explain it to you because you wouldn't understand.

 

[Kane Lives]

"clock flinging Irishman"

That rings a bell, can you remind me who that was? Might have noticed it while browsing older threads. I only joined this site months ago and was definitely not on here in 2020 on an account that got banned after I committed account suicide to start spending more time in real life.

He probably means @ConfederateIrishman, who was pretty pessimistic on the direction the country was taking after the summer of love and Trump being booted out.

Man's an interesting poster, but his doomerism was quite legendary. (And most of it justified too.)

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

just look at a lot of the stuff the Trump wing has done... QAnon, the Capitol riot, cringe "meme magic."

Those were all pretty based and intelligent to a reasonable degree though. QAnon was true in essence - elites really are sociopathic (probably demonic) pedos, the main error is in thinking that there is a White Hat presence in the Deep State and intel communities, but basically every political faction commits errors like that.

The Jan 6 2021 Capitol Party was a pretty mild response to unprecedented election fraud resulting in a coup. It was certainly better than being TOO peaceful/docile. Trump's plan was for all of them to just stand in front of the Capitol chanting peacefully. What ended up happening thanks to the glowies, resulted in the worst scumbags on the planet (our sociopathic Congresscritters) shitting their pants live on camera and spending the following 12 months reacting hysterically, resulting in even more mistakes.

You might argue that the proper response would have been for Trump to back them up with the military but the military was too cucked. Trump did the best he could while being dealt a bad hand, as it went for the previous four years. Looking back, I'm not sure what Trump *could've* done to stop the steal given the Supreme Court cucking out and the state legislatures in AZ/WI/GA/PA/MI being too full of RINO cucks.

You're making too much of Trump's lack of perfection and too little of the extremely difficult environment that is Washington DC and the current political landscape.

edit: also you not voting for Trump in 2020 was a gay ass move. I still admire you for the "how strangely erotic" fad from GameFAQs though. Inshallah they will live to see November 5, 2024 before they die from the clotshot or 41% themselves

 

[Lards and Lasses]

hard coping over the successful 4 years trump was in office

literally none of this matters and is true for 90% of presidents, they just don't show it. trump did and people like him for it. seethe.

 

[Gehenna]

Trump was fundamentally elected on three premises and promises.

1: The Economy. Which was seeing record highs until covid. We cannot call this one anything but a success. I'd give him an A+
2: The Border: Mixed bag. This one was delayed constantly due to issues outside his control, despite the delays he did reinforce the most critical parts of the border. He didn't succeed overall in the end, and his lack of a second term prevented his capitalization on his breaking through near the end of his tenure. I'd give him a B- since it was clear he was on the verge of doing it.
3: Draining the swamp. Yah no, he failed utterly here and was eventually ousted for it. A D-, only gaining points for refusing to back down and clearly intending to go for another shot now that he knows what he is up against. But beyond that an utter failure.

 

[Jaimas]

Haha I wonder if the guy who commissioned the report works for Tony Evers or Mandela Barnes?

And yeah, I'm definitely new and have never made any posts on a banned account in 2020, so it's interesting to meet all of you in this thread because I definitely never interacted with any KF posters that year haha especially not anyone in this thread.

Allow this oldfag to welcome you, then, newbie, to the land of weird KF political discussions. You're going to find a motley assortment of weird opinions on this board, ranging from disaffected former Dems to dyed-in-the-wool war veterans to former and current political analysts - some armchair, some more direct - of every stripe. You'll even see some of the rare saner heads that the DSA and Progressives once prized but came here because we welcome the shitposting. Yes, they exist. You'll also see doomposters. So many doomposters.

You'll occasionally some someone firing off a profane rant about the Jews or Blacks, like you did in spicier discussion boards trying to make light of things, like we had in the early 2000s, and because a golden rule of comedy is crossing the line twice. So if you see someone screaming obscenities like an 8-year old on Xbox live, that's normal and A&H being A&H, don't take it too personally.

But through it, actual discussion and debate happens here.

No one knows quite how we blundered into this, and good god is it Autistic, but you may find it enjoyable and possibly even informative.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

A record Economy
Historic peace and progress between the Koreas.
Peace in the Balkans
Peace in the Middle-East
ISIS crushed
Record low black unemployment
The bloody USMCA

I love how the President's role in the economy is either massively exaggerated or entirely his fault depending on who is in office. I, myself, tend to not blame presidents either way for the economy since Congress is truly the one who matters there, there are too many other factors going on in the world, and not every presidents inherits the same economic situation. I'm just really skeptical about a president's role in the overall health of the economy.

Nothing of substance new happened with North Korea. It is all a show, and North Korea's motivations for attending talks is largely to produce state propaganda and to give them the veneer of legitimacy.

Much of the rest Trump only had a part in, and past presidents also contributed, or it merely coincides with his presidency.

I was being hyperbolic when I said Trump got nothing done. Good things did happen under his administration. No contest there. The Title 9 reforms under DeVoss probably saved someone's life from suicide. Most importantly, Trump really got the country paying attention to how China is NOT our ally. He was bashed for his skepticism towards China and every moment onward has vindicated him. However, I do not think he truly understands how much of a threat China is, including culturally, as we see more media and "art" made designed to kowtow to the CCP, so we experience soft censorship from CCP-compatible media. There's a reason, in every World of Warcraft cutscene with the undead, none of them have protruding bones or obviously skeletal features.

For someone who made a Q&A thread about how terrible liberals are, you appear to have been trying to meet them halfway @Harbinger of Kali Yuga. Foolish.

In terms of their quality as friends, outside of the capacity of politics. I have no doubt you, Gehenna, and My Earnest Opinions are trustworthy, conscientious people in real life, and I'm not being sarcastic. I'm not trying to meet them half away. I'm not actually conservative. I don' t label myself because I don't care to. In fact, some of my issues with Trump was that he wasn't "conservative" enough in certain instances, most notably towards the 2nd Amendment. Whatever I believe, that does not change the fact that I believe conservatives are more honest and trustworthy than liberals. Trump, of course, is not honest and trustworthy, and I don't believe he's conservative, either, he's his own thing as well. Despite the ticket he was elected under, I view Trump as essentially being independent. The GOP tried to sandbag him from the beginning until he really caught on.

The right needs someone that can do more than preach to the choir and get people laughing. Say what you want, but Trump lost the last election, and it wasn't stolen from him. Most importantly right now, I think we need someone with an intellectual edge to destroy the ideas of the left, not the characters. Humiliate, say, Nancy Pelosi all you like--when Pelosi is gone, someone with her same ideas will take her place.

Trump, however, wasted much of the opportunity he had. Because he was not educated, not really a thinker, he missed a lot of opportunities to seriously discredit opponents, and despite what people said about his political incorrectness he did almost nothing for the culture war bullshit. That's what really gets me. Had Trump been a little more intellectual, he could have demonstrated publicly how hypocritical Twitter is, what's really going on with the far left. Trump barely understood Antifa, and when he'd get banned from stuff like Twitter, it was all "ME, ME, ME" when he could have made it more of an issue about how Twitter targets conservatives.

 

[verissimus]

Trump was fundamentally elected on three premises and promises.

1: The Economy. Which was seeing record highs until covid. We cannot call this one anything but a success. I'd give him an A+
2: The Border: Mixed bag. This one was delayed constantly due to issues outside his control, despite the delays he did reinforce the most critical parts of the border. He didn't succeed overall in the end, and his lack of a second term prevented his capitalization on his breaking through near the end of his tenure. I'd give him a B- since it was clear he was on the verge of doing it.
3: Draining the swamp. Yah no, he failed utterly here and was eventually ousted for it. A D-, only gaining points for refusing to back down and clearly intending to go for another shot now that he knows what he is up against. But beyond that an utter failure.

Now compare that to Joe Biden and everything is an F.

I love how the President's role in the economy is either massively exaggerated or entirely his fault depending on who is in office.

Yes and no. One thing is for sure, President's do certainly have the ability to screw an economy up almost singlehandedly and certainly with help from Congress.

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

Allow this oldfag to welcome you, then, newbie, to the land of weird KF political discussions. You're going to find a motley assortment of weird opinions on this board, ranging from disaffected former Dems to dyed-in-the-wool war veterans to former and current political analysts - some armchair, some more direct - of every stripe. You'll even see some of the rare saner heads that the DSA and Progressives once prized but came here because we welcome the shitposting. Yes, they exist. You'll also see doomposters. So many doomposters.

You'll occasionally some someone firing off a profane rant about the Jews or Blacks, like you did in spicier discussion boards trying to make light of things, like we had in the early 2000s, and because a golden rule of comedy is crossing the line twice. So if you see someone screaming obscenities like an 8-year old on Xbox live, that's normal and A&H being A&H, don't take it too personally.

But through it, actual discussion and debate happens here.

No one knows quite how we blundered this, and good god is it Autistic, but you may find it enjoyable and possibly even informative.

Haha thanks. I appreciate the detailed rundown. One poster I aspire to be most like was this one guy I saw make posts in 2020 (I browse older threads and older posts sometimes) called @RedStorm , he had opinions pretty similar to mine though I think he got banned for some reason.

 

[Kane Lives]

Allow this oldfag to welcome you, then, newbie, to the land of weird KF political discussions. You're going to find a motley assortment of weird opinions on this board, ranging from disaffected former Dems to dyed-in-the-wool war veterans to former and current political analysts - some armchair, some more direct - of every stripe. You'll even see some of the rare saner heads that the DSA and Progressives once prized but came here because we welcome the shitposting. Yes, they exist. You'll also see doomposters. So many doomposters.

You'll occasionally some someone firing off a profane rant about the Jews or Blacks, like you did in spicier discussion boards trying to make light of things, like we had in the early 2000s, and because a golden rule of comedy is crossing the line twice. So if you see someone screaming obscenities like an 8-year old on Xbox live, that's normal and A&H being A&H, don't take it too personally.

But through it, actual discussion and debate happens here.

No one knows quite how we blundered into this, and good god is it Autistic, but you may find it enjoyable and possibly even informative.

There's even a few unironic Nazis here on the site. No, not the edgy 4chan kind, but the kind that actually subscribes to National Socialism and reads the Mein Kampf and associated political theory. Very interesting to talk to, even if they're not normally active because of their beliefs.

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

@Harbinger of Kali Yuga : I think all those things you mentioned were laudable accomplishments given the conditions Trump found himself in. The only way I see him doing much better is if he had superhuman persuasion (bordering on magic mind control skills) to get GOP cucks in the Jan 2017 - Jan 2019 congress to do his bidding, which is particularly hard when a lot of them didn't give a damn about their positions, were legitimately ideologically opposed to MAGA, and retired to cushy lobbyist jobs. If anyone was capable of that (highly doubt DeSantis is ; he does a good job with the FL state legislature but Congress is another beast, maybe the Jan 2025 - Jan 2027 will prove more pliable), I imagine that they'd be able to become the most influential American of the 21st Century.

It will either taking years of building up a MAGA movement from the ground up, occupying multiple local or congressional positions, or it will take a catastrophic collapse with more poverty than the Great Depression and more bloodshed than the *First* American Civil War. Both are possible.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

literally none of this matters and is true for 90% of presidents, they just don't show it. trump did and people like him for it. seethe.

See. this is why it's hard for me to take you Trump cultists seriously (EDIT: SPECIFICALLY THOSE THAT GET BUTTHURT OVER ANY CRITICISM OF TRUMP AT ALL)--because I voted for him, I'm not offended by him, in fact I thought he was pretty funny. I just think he's all style and no substance. You take every criticism of Trump as if someone has TDS, you make every excuse for everything he did wrong, yadda yadda. I'm not mad Trump got elected and I was hoping he'd win the last election, too, over Biden. Just because I criticize Trump a lot and don't particularly care for him doesn't mean I prefer his opponents.

I certainly don't view Trump's presidency as a massive failure, and I will more than agree with you that the media consistently and perniciously lied about Trump and his performance. And I'm someone who didn't particularly care for him.

Really, for what I care about, Trump's faults weren't for what he did, it was what he didn't do, and he left himself open for being attacked and discredited in the eyes of others too easily, because he had a thin skin and couldn't control himself. I know you'll disagree with that, but the end result is what matters, and he lost the election. and it wasn't stolen from him. Was there a propaganda campaign by the left-wing media that exaggerated his faults? Absolutely. I am in no disagreement there.

I'm not saying the Trump years were bad by any stretch.

 

[Jaimas]

The right needs someone that can do more than preach to the choir and get people laughing. Say what you want, but Trump lost the last election, and it wasn't stolen from him.

Yeah, you're not getting anywhere on this board with that argument.

I don't care if you'd prefer to look at the provable fraud that was already caught in Arizona, the sheer impossibility of Biden's win numerically, any of the shit @Gehenna and other analysts brought up, or any of the numerous cases that we caught in front of rolling video cameras of fraud taking place, the general gist is that if it hadn't been for Mail-in Voting and the rote fraud that enabled, Biden would have been blown the fuck out.

If you believe Biden won legit, by definition, you believe that Biden cinched more of the black vote in Chicago than Obama did in 2008. You also, by that same definition, believe Biden - a candidate that struggled to get a presence at his campaign events while his opponent quite literally filled Stadiums - got more votes than any presidential candidate in the history of the world, ever, in an election where his opponent set that same fucking record. That is why no one believes Biden was legit. And he was so legit that arguing he wasn't is a ban-worthy trespass on most social media sites, just like criticizing any of the Biden administration's policies increasingly are.

Even if the fraud never actually happened, as you claim, all existing evidence shows otherwise, and that evidence has to be outlawed by the powers that be. In the eyes of anyone who has a reason to suspect that their leaders may not actually have their best interests in mind, that alone speaks volumes. You will never convince people that Biden was legitimate, given these optics.

 

[verissimus]

See. this is why it's hard for me to take you Trump cultists seriously--because I voted for him, I'm not offended by him, in fact I thought he was pretty funny. I just think he's all style and no substance. You take every criticism of Trump as if someone has TDS, you make every excuse for everything he did wrong, yadda yadda. I'm not mad Trump got elected and I was hoping he'd win the last election, too, over Biden. Just because I criticize Trump a lot and don't particularly care for him doesn't mean I prefer his opponents.

I certainly don't view Trump's presidency as a massive failure, and I will more than agree with you that the media consistently and perniciously lied about Trump and his performance. And I'm someone who didn't particularly care for him.

Really, for what I care about, Trump's faults weren't for what he did, it was what he didn't do, and he left himself open for being attacked and discredited in the eyes of others too easily, because he had a thin skin and couldn't control himself. I know you'll disagree with that, but the end result is what matters, and he lost the election. and it wasn't stolen from him. Was there a propaganda campaign by the left-wing media that exaggerated his faults? Absolutely. I am in no disagreement there.

I'm not saying the Trump years were bad by any stretch.

I'm more or less on the same boat (except for the election bs). The ride was a bit amusing, but I don't care for that kind of crap anymore. It's just as good to stick it to the Left by actually getting things done than to boast about how much bigger the wall is going to get as soon as its finished which doesn't happen.

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

A record Economy
Historic peace and progress between the Koreas.
Peace in the Balkans
Peace in the Middle-East
ISIS crushed
Record low black unemployment
The bloody USMCA

Yeah, well, oyher than yhe roads and aqueducts, what did the romans actually do for us?

It baffles me how so many people contain their own little ideological menoryholes right in their own little brains.

You could add a hundred other things he did easily. Made a huge dent in human trafficking, sex trafficking, prison reform, a pile more.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Yeah, you're not getting anywhere on this board with that argument.

I don't care if you'd prefer to look at the provable fraud that was already caught in Arizona, the sheer impossibility of Biden's win numerically, any of the shit @Gehenna and other analysts brought up, or any of the numerous cases that we caught in front of rolling video cameras of fraud taking place, the general gist is that if it hadn't been for Mail-in Voting and the rote fraud that enabled, Biden would have been blown the fuck out.

If you believe Biden won legit, by definition, you believe that Biden cinched more of the black vote in Chicago than Obama did in 2008. You also, by that same definition, believe Biden - a candidate that struggled to get a presence at his campaign events while his opponent quite literally filled Stadiums - got more votes than any presidential candidate in the history of the world, ever, in an election where his opponent set that same fucking record. That is why no one believes Biden was legit. And he was so legit that arguing he wasn't is a ban-worthy trespass on most social media sites, just like criticizing any of the Biden administration's policies increasingly are.

Even if the fraud never actually happened, as you claim, all existing evidence shows otherwise, and that evidence has to be outlawed by the powers that be. In the eyes of anyone who has a reason to suspect that their leaders may not actually have their best interests in mind, that alone speaks volumes.

It's to the point where I'll believe that /pol/ wignats who hated Trump had more of an effect on Biden's numbers, than he did winning the election legitimately.

 

[X Prime]

See. this is why it's hard for me to take you Trump cultists seriously-

You're getting boring and long-winded already.

Even starting to repeat yourself.

Try harder to make a salient point please, preferably with less verbosity.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

You take every criticism of Trump as if someone has TDS, you make every excuse for everything he did wrong, yadda yadda.

You know if you'd actually hang out in this thread more often rather than cherry-pick one or two posts, you'd have realized that not EVERYONE in this thread goes on full blown defense for Trump. There ARE valid things people in here criticize Trump about. Myself included, especially with anything technology related because his boomer-ass still can't get with the program when it comes to websites.