RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

[OmnipotentStupidity]

This is the kind of comment he thinks pertinent to leave underneath someone else's Youtube stream where he showed up for like twenty minutes and spent most of that time trashing his friend Fatmanfalling.

Spoiler: Cringe Pheonix

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Yes that is indeed a big, fat, steaming pile of cringe, but I wanna put some added attention on #6 for a minute:
First, obligatory:

Second, "Forged Within Flames"
"GET IT!? CUZ THEY'RE FLAMIN' HOT BITCHES LMAO SO AWKWARD XD HAHAHA LOOK AT ALL THESE HECKIN LESBIRINOS!"
That title and summary: instant audience repellent.

 

[Rezza]

This is the kind of comment he thinks pertinent to leave underneath someone else's Youtube stream where he showed up for like twenty minutes and spent most of that time trashing his friend Fatmanfalling.

Spoiler: Cringe Pheonix

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Holyshit, that last part...
This guy is seriously hopeless

 

[Rhymes 19]

Well then got all the pieces to finally put the puzzle together then, thankfully it's not a cult of personality, what we do have is your run-of-the-mill circlejerk hivemind. Also wow, really? Evil? welp that just goes to show his level of maturity. although it's a shame that we no longer have an inside woman, it's a pretty big relief that you no longer have the mental burden of dealing with a manchild with a massive stiffy for your sexual preference and his social group of nonces.


Nice work, joke's on him as well, this action will only serve to deteriorate his credibility as both a writer and a critic. Also for a self-proclaimed critic he sure can't handle it when criticism is being dished out on him. Pretty wild too that his antics draws a lot of parallels from CRWBY's Antics...

It wouldn't have been good for me to stay, for both my mental health and the quality of my music. I would have fully objected to scoring anything in the onsen, and I don't even know how I'd handle all the poorly-written dramatics later on. I wouldn't my name attached to several aspects of that production and Raymond's behavior.

You're right that he doesn't take criticism well. He acts like he does because he responds to it, but he only defends his choices, and almost never accepts he seriously messed up. When I first confronted him about his book, the only criticism he gave himself was the poor formatting. I have that book as a PDF, by the way. I play editor with random paragraphs to warm up my brain sometimes.

This is the kind of comment he thinks pertinent to leave underneath someone else's Youtube stream where he showed up for like twenty minutes and spent most of that time trashing his friend Fatmanfalling.

Spoiler: Cringe Pheonix

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The absolute gall. Imagine throwing your friend under the bus for a semi-popular stream.

Yes that is indeed a big, fat, steaming pile of cringe, but I wanna put some added attention on #6 for a minute:
First, obligatory:

Second, "Forged Within Flames"
"GET IT!? CUZ THEY'RE FLAMIN' HOT BITCHES LMAO SO AWKWARD XD HAHAHA LOOK AT ALL THESE HECKIN LESBIRINOS!"
That title and summary: instant audience repellent.

Nah, he chose that title so he could make inane references to fire related imagery that has nothing to do with anything.

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

Nah, he chose that title so he could make inane references to fire related imagery that has nothing to do with anything.

Are you fucking serious
Is his brain that lesbian-riddled and horny that he can't comprehend what words mean?

Rhetorical question, I know, but still: where do you get the cohones to call yourself a writer, let alone a good one, if you come up with a title like that...and then even with that barebones-ass summary not make the connection that "Fire = Angry"? That's 3rd grade level shit. And he thinks he can fix RWBY; Miles and Kerry would laugh in his face and tell them to get the fuck outta their office, and rightfully so.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

He acts like he does because he responds to it, but he only defends his choices, and almost never accepts he seriously messed up.

Yeah I've noticed that in his Fixing RWBY streams where he's responding to people's comments about his work. He never truly seems to consider criticism or give any thought to alternate approaches people suggest. He's always mainly focused on defending the choices he made, making any attempt to actually listen to commentary and criticism pointless.

 

[Mega Black]

This thread has been an absolute joy to read, I'm happy to see some group of people, somewhere, finally shitting on Raymond a little. I've always felt like the guy was a total sperg, but I was wondering if he'd go the British Ninja route of actually growing up and moving on from defining his whole life around a shit internet show.

I used to actually enjoy the content the 'FRBT' crew put out back when it was first coming together, even spent some time in the discord shortly after it got put up. I'm not surprised to see them all kind of fall further and further down the degenerate hole they all dug for themselves.

At least I get to enjoy watching their fall.

Yeah I've noticed that in his Fixing RWBY streams where he's responding to people's comments about his work. He never truly seems to consider criticism or give any thought to alternate approaches people suggest. He's always mainly focused on defending the choices he made, making any attempt to actually listen to commentary and criticism pointless.

Mcfaggot has a pretty huge ego for somebody who has only found success by leeching off of more popular works. Almost all of the people in the rwby critic sphere have some sense of "I'm smarter than the people making the show, and thus smarter than you." Fatman kind of opened the gates for that sort of behavior and most of them have modeled after him for their success, makes sense they would adopt some of that holier than thou attitude as well.

 

[Decepticon Spy]

I just want to fucking bring this up because it's been on my mind as of late. What's with fucking VexxedViewer and Adel Aka being the only RWBYtubers who are pretty much normal people while the rest of them are complete RT shills or has an intense and personal hateboner for the big M&K?

MuffinManDan is a vindictive and spiteful retard who can't help but draw the ire of both r/RWBY and r/RWBYcritics but also outed himself as a massive coward once the weight of his self-inflicted reddit drama starts to collapse on him.

Fatmanfalling is a narcissistic closeted nonce who thinks anyone who criticizes RWBY besides him do not know what's best for RWBY and are only making videos to spite the Galaxy brain duo.

Unicorn of war is a massive RT cocksucker and drags videos on and on and is completely devoid of personality beyond "Ohmergersh my daughters are back in action!1!1!1" or "OMGEE BMBLB SO KAWAII1!1!1"

I don't need to explain what's wrong with MurderofBirds.

Jerry Freeman is a turboautist who thinks World building = pinnacle of great writing and can't help but to insert political turmoil on stories that don't even need it.

And last but not the least, CelticPhoenix is a lolcow and is best describe as a discount PurpleKeckleon: Both got popular because of community fan projects, Both surround themselves with nonces and enablers, and both are batshit fucking retarded.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I just want to fucking bring this up because it's been on my mind as of late. What's with fucking VexxedViewer and Adel Aka being the only RWBYtubers who are pretty much normal people while the rest of them are complete RT shills or has an intense and personal hateboner for the big M&K?

To answer your question I genuinely think it's due to RWBY's nature as the low hanging fruit. It's so easy to hate and the flaws are so massive that you could use it as a case study in a middle-school Creative Writing class on what not to do. Since these people can't aim higher they're stuck down here at the bottom of the barrel with the weirdos the losers and the retards.

Fatmanfalling is a narcissistic closeted nonce who thinks anyone who criticizes RWBY besides him do not know what's best for RWBY and are only making videos to spite the Galaxy brain duo.

I have described FMF to a friend as "Wish.com Digibro" (and I have described Digibro as Walmart brand Demo).

Jerry Freeman is a turboautist who thinks World building = pinnacle of great writing and can't help but to insert political turmoil on stories that don't even need it.

Jerry is primo stupid, he's never had a good take on anything.

And last but not the least, CelticPhoenix is a lolcow and is best describe as a discount PurpleKeckleon: Both got popular because of community fan projects, Both surround themselves with nonces and enablers, and both are batshit fucking retarded.

That spiral you just described is pretty much the fate of the content creator's Discord. They all get pruned down to the point where they just become a hugbox for the creator in question until they finally get shut down after the creator ragequits their own server. It's exceedingly rare to find a youtuber's Discord that actually has a vibrant community that can both give and take criticism and who have many differing ideas.

 

[Rhymes 19]

Are you fucking serious
Is his brain that lesbian-riddled and horny that he can't comprehend what words mean?

Probably! Dude doesn't really think about consequences when it comes to that kind of stuff. For example, the FRWBY server had a channel for people to show off their NSFW art, because of course, Coffee posted a incest lesbian porn drawing she said Raymond asked for. Raymond allowed someone to tell his whole server that he, who wishes he was born a lesbian, and has a lesbian sister, likes to ask for lesbian incest porn. No shame. No thought.

By the way, that server allowed a 16-year-old in that channel, even after she said to them she was 16. According to her, Raymond said it was fine because she's from the UK and the age of consent there is 16.

 

[Mega Black]

Adel is an autist but in a fairly harmless way. He's fairly humble, even if he's kind of a goof and his media exposure starts and ends with Naruto/Genshin Impact.

RWBY is like an autism magnet, sort of like Sonic. Something about the IP seriously breaks people's brains. Adel fights fire with fire, his own autism overpowers contrarian 'critic' autism.

 

[Chilson]

I was never particularly close with any of the artists, but there are a couple I'm still on good terms with. They're very kind and talented people. Most of the Huntsmen actually aren't minors, for the record.

I was on good terms with most of them, though, until I got kicked/left. Someone sent me the messages of the server afterwards. Suddenly, they all hated me, even called me racist and sexist for objecting to the onsen. I remember ButterflyBlueLady calling me an "anti" like it was a slur, which I still find funny (their Twitter is full of loli discourse). Raymond called me "manipulative and scummy", and a bunch of them agreed. Evil, he called me. So much for 3 years of friendship. Truly, I had always been out to get him.

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Another fun part: he changed permissions to those scripts so I couldn't see them anymore... but I had already made copies of them hours earlier. I also had the full document he sent months before. "Based" indeed.

I guess you now know what its like to be "friends" with a team of high school chicks now.

 

[The Periodic Gamer]

Yeah I've noticed that in his Fixing RWBY streams where he's responding to people's comments about his work. He never truly seems to consider criticism or give any thought to alternate approaches people suggest. He's always mainly focused on defending the choices he made, making any attempt to actually listen to commentary and criticism pointless.

One of the hardest things to do as an author is criticism. Both in gracefully receiving and thinking about it, and respectfully offering it.

You get attached to your work. When someone criticizes it, it feels like they are criticizing you. So, you justify it. "Oh, I can't do X because Y." Sometimes, it's a good idea. You really can't do X because of Y. Sometimes, it's just cope.

For once, this is something I legitimately don't begrudge him for. Handling criticism is a topic that is discussed among writers with every bit of passion prose or technique gets. It's important, but writers just get so attatched to their work that it's insanely difficult to be objective.

 

[Mega Black]

One of the hardest things to do as an author is criticism. Both in gracefully receiving and thinking about it, and respectfully offering it.

You get attached to your work. When someone criticizes it, it feels like they are criticizing you. So, you justify it. "Oh, I can't do X because Y." Sometimes, it's a good idea. You really can't do X because of Y. Sometimes, it's just cope.

For once, this is something I legitimately don't begrudge him for. Handling criticism is a topic that is discussed among writers with every bit of passion prose or technique gets. It's important, but writers just get so attatched to their work that it's insanely difficult to be objective.

This is true, but someone who has found their popularity through being a critic should probably make more of an effort to actually handle criticism himself. I'm more sympathetic to a creative who doesn't shit on someone else's work getting a bit defensive or dismissive than I am somebody like Raymond, who would have virtually no audience or success in his endeavors without the hard work and dedication of somebody else to piggyback off of.

 

[The Periodic Gamer]

This is true, but someone who has found their popularity through being a critic should probably make more of an effort to actually handle criticism himself. I'm more sympathetic to a creative who doesn't shit on someone else's work getting a bit defensive or dismissive than I am somebody like Raymond, who would have virtually no audience or success in his endeavors without the hard work and dedication of somebody else to piggyback off of.

There's a difference between going "y'know, I'm not going to ding you there, becauses that's fair", and "I like you a little more."

Sympathetic is not the word I'd choose. Aggravated sounds much better. I am aggravated by Raymond, and his narrative essay makes me MATI because he made a 'novel' format that fails as both prose and script, and he has the gall to proclaim himself a master because of it.

There are legitimate masters of the art in the RWBY fandom. Someone mentioned Coeur, and I wholeheartedly agree.

And then theres this hack who somehow managed to create his own little ego farm.

I'm just not as pissed I was because after a little bit of research, I realized that there isn't anyone in this whole mess that I would describe as competent. No one impressed me with their art, regardless of the medium.

The modeler can't make decent clothes that make sense. The lead writer is an incredibly pretentious hack. None of the concept artists know how to draw people, as opposed to bug-men. There are no VA's, which honestly I was expecting for a RWBY rewrite that has modelers and animators.

I went into this expecting a hack to have somehow managed to bully or gaslight some actual talent into his own little circlejerk, and instead, I got an entire server of little Raymonds all running around, from the weaboos, to the lolicons, to the soon-to-be-42-percenters, and all of them have massive egos and think that everyone involved is great.

The RWBY community isn't sending their best. Their sending their hacks. Their coomer fangirls. Their narcissists'. And some of them I assume are good people.

Edit: deleting leftover words

 

[Mega Black]

I went into this expecting a hack to have somehow managed to bully or gaslight some actual talent into his own little circlejerk, and instead, I got an entire server of little Raymonds all running around, from the weaboos, to the lolicons, to the soon-to-be-42-percenters, and all of them have massive egos and think that everyone involved is great.

The RWBY community isn't sending their best. Their sending their hacks. Their coomer fangirls. Their narcissists'. And some of them I assume are good people.

The RWBY community, on either side, has pretty much run off anybody with talent. People like Rhymes get fucking shotgunned out at the slightest show of self-awareness. For the best, because if you're investing this much time and energy into creating something it should be for your own original work. RWBY doesn't deserve the effort.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

The RWBY community isn't sending their best. Their sending their hacks. Their coomer fangirls. Their narcissists'. And some of them I assume are

The RWBY community, on either side, has pretty much run off anybody with talent. People like Rhymes get fucking shotgunned out at the slightest show of self-awareness. For the best, because if you're investing this much time and energy into creating something it should be for your own original work. RWBY doesn't deserve the effort.

Mega Black beat me to it, the community used to have talented individuals in it but they've all either left and moved on of their own accord or were forced out. This is the best this community is still capable of as little good there is in it.

 

[The Periodic Gamer]

Mega Black beat me to it, the community used to have talented individuals in it but they've all either left and moved on of their own accord or were forced out. This is the best this community is still capable of as little good there is in it.

Hard disagree.

The RWBY fandom is home to one of the most competent authors I've ever seen. Just recently, I was awed by a fanfic that had Adam Taurus as a MC. It was not only competent, but managed to perfectly handle the terrible parallels that the white fang have to BLM. It's hard to overstate just how insanely difficult it is for an author to handle politics reasonably, period, let alone what Roosterteeth did to the faunus.

And yet an author called Coeur Al'aran did it.

Coeur is no lolcow. But the community that has sprung up around him is.

To this day, a fic called Not This Time Fate has proved so devisive that multiple forums have actually banned discussion of it altogether because you either love or hate it with no in between.

Coeur is the kind of author whose writing I would take notes on. And I have high standards. It's actually impressive how many genres he's branched out into.

What I really think the problem is is this; the critic community is full of halfwits, and anyone competent sees them and runs for the hills.

 

[Smith Wesson]

Hard disagree.

The RWBY fandom is home to one of the most competent authors I've ever seen. Just recently, I was awed by a fanfic that had Adam Taurus as a MC. It was not only competent, but managed to perfectly handle the terrible parallels that the white fang have to BLM. It's hard to overstate just how insanely difficult it is for an author to handle politics reasonably, period, let alone what Roosterteeth did to the faunus.

And yet an author called Coeur Al'aran did it.

Coeur is no lolcow. But the community that has sprung up around him is.

To this day, a fic called Not This Time Fate has proved so devisive that multiple forums have actually banned discussion of it altogether because you either love or hate it with no in between.

Coeur is the kind of author whose writing I would take notes on. And I have high standards. It's actually impressive how many genres he's branched out into.

What I really think the problem is is this; the critic community is full of halfwits, and anyone competent sees them and runs for the hills.

True. Beast of Beacon, just in its first few chapters already was better than the canon portrayal. It still held the idea that there are problems with Faunophobia that needed to be addressed, but still maintained RWBY's intent to have the WF become too extreme to speak for the cause of equality.

That said, he does have flaws - I notice excessive amounts of prose, a relative lack of willingness to make changes to experiment with making RWBY the protagonists of his fics (which implies he runs away from this issue rather than confront it). The way he portrays gray morality, somehow has the opposite effect.

Still, his consistency, and willingness to address themes not used in the show, or correct them in a natural way is what leads to Coeur's staying power. That, and his work ethic (at the cost of not double-checking his old stories for errors).

 

[ChevroletBlackboard]

Unicorn of war is a massive RT cocksucker and drags videos on and on and is completely devoid of personality beyond "Ohmergersh my daughters are back in action!1!1!1" or "OMGEE BMBLB SO KAWAII1!1!1"

The funny thing is, he doesn't like the show anymore. He and his friends got burned by the Clover thing and it's made UoW more anti-RWBY especially as he doesn't like Volume 8. Nowadays the RWBY subreddit basically allows you to call him any slur under the sun and the mods won't punish you.

 

[Random Internet Person]

The funny thing is, he doesn't like the show anymore. He and his friends got burned by the Clover thing and it's made UoW more anti-RWBY especially as he doesn't like Volume 8. Nowadays the RWBY subreddit basically allows you to call him any slur under the sun and the mods won't punish you.

What’s the deal with RWBY fans going after everyone who goes after their show? Is REALLY worth circling the wagons for?

True. Beast of Beacon, just in its first few chapters already was better than the canon portrayal. It still held the idea that there are problems with Faunophobia that needed to be addressed, but still maintained RWBY's intent to have the WF become too extreme to speak for the cause of equality.

That said, he does have flaws - I notice excessive amounts of prose, a relative lack of willingness to make changes to experiment with making RWBY the protagonists of his fics (which implies he runs away from this issue rather than confront it). The way he portrays gray morality, somehow has the opposite effect.

Still, his consistency, and willingness to address themes not used in the show, or correct them in a natural way is what leads to Coeur's staying power. That, and his work ethic (at the cost of not double-checking his old stories for errors).

The one thing I’ve heard about Couer is that he always puts Jaune at the forefront, which people say is an actual problem the main show has.