Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

Noah said that people like us (SIX YEARS down the line) have no right to know if our partner is trans or not. That it’s none of our business. And then she got angry when Ryan said because it was lying. He’s absolutely right. It IS lying.
Yes, it absolutely is lying. And also: who does Noah think she's kidding? - No-one needs to be told that an ugly, scrawny, croaky-voiced, baby-faced lesbian isn't a man. Nor would anyone need to be told that the 6' person wearing size 13 pumps is not a woman.

Here's the truth for all transformers: you are Balrogs; you "shall not pass".
 
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I wonder why Hope felt the need to trans himself? He's a tall, manly guy with an athletic build and a nice smile. Would he really have that much trouble dating as a gay man? What went wrong in his life to make getting cartoonish breast implants and going on sad fake dates with Sander seem like a better option than just being a dude?
I want Noah to go bother all the amab mxn at a support meeting for testicular cancer. If transwomen can infest endometriosis support groups, I think trans guys should get in on the action too. It's only fair.
It's interesting that nobody appears to have posted on Jazz's social media to say, "Hey, we're roommates!" or anything.
Would you want to admit to being a denizen of the den of dilation and doughnut destruction?
 
Why does every ftm have an OnlyFans but basically no cis-guys do? I mean, we all know the reasons, but it's so odd to me that ftms don't compare themselves to the men around them and notice how they behave differently.
Hard disagree, I would wager a good portion of OF is gay men and maybe some straight men that cater to gay men.

Maybe you only had straight men in mind though.

TMI but I just had a dumb thought when I saw the “Smooth Jazz” thread linked below and for a second my brain thought it was a thread having to do with Jazz and his legs being shaved smooth.

Eta: just a suggestion that you don’t use “cis” as a prefix to man and woman. If you are talking about trans people then you would say transman, so there isn’t any ambiguity when you say “men.” Transmen don’t even have things in common with men anyway.
 
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Why are they handling Jazz's re-do this way? Trying to paint it as just deciding to take a gap year, a dilation year, whatever... Followed by covid year. Then at the end of the season, slipping in "big fails the first time, praying it'll be better this time".... Seems really clumsy and misleading (at best). Why not be upfront from the start? They detailed 4 gender reassignment surgeries, Jeanette's facelift, grandma's pill addiction. But they lie and cover THIS up?

Am I missing something?
 
I don't think the surgeons are demented enough to make their patients pee out of the amhole.
Ah, I envy your optimism. Unfortunately, there have been cases of where the surgeon did stick the urethra in the am hole. Remember, these surgeons are actually butchers, so they don't even attempt to make the am hole anatomically correct.

There was also another troon who had no idea he had been dilating his urethra and not the actual am hole, but it wasn't because the urethra was inside the am hole. His surgery was just so botched he didn't know which hole was what.

Also, from r/Transgender_Surgeries, the troons are deciding on whether Marci Bowers is transphobic or not for stating that fucking with children's puberty is actually not a good idea.

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They bring up Jazz's case, but insist that it was Jazz's fault for refusing to use T cream/gel on his undeveloped genitals, and Marci's fault because he refuses to educate himself on how to do surgery on children who are undeveloped thanks to medically transitioning them.
 
Unfortunately, there have been cases of where the surgeon did stick the urethra in the am hole.
Hah, I should've known. Girls don't pee out of their vaginas, but transgirls do!
I still think transes are so deluded that a surgeon could put them under, do nothing, bill their medicaid for thousands, then tell them that the surgery was a great success, and they'd believe it.
 

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LMFAO that face is exactly what I was talking about, thank you. It just screams "indignant female" harder than a z-shaped finger snap. I'm pretty sure that exact facial expression is usually how mothers signal to their children that they really dun goofed, and are about 4 seconds away from being grounded.

Muh "male brain", eh?
 
From @Putin Bot 's Marci Bowers post:
"However, it should be noted that there are surgeons who have no difficulty working with these patients, producing excellent results." LIE

"ROGD is yet another damaging manufactured attack on the trans community. It has also been thoroughly discredited by experts in the field" LIE

"It should be noted that puberty blockers are reversible and puberty is resumed once stopped." LIE

"This has gone beyond medicine and into politics, and in politics truth no longer matters."
LOL, the entire trans community rules politics. People are forced to be tolerant and even advocate in fear of losing their jobs and being labeled "phobic."
Troons seriously lack self awareness and they're pissed the Troon Doc is actually trying to not mutilate more children. The grossest part is all of their articles and research is written as "FACTS' like above, when it's the scientific opposite. Everyday people who don't lurk on the Farms take them at their word.
 
Why are they handling Jazz's re-do this way? Trying to paint it as just deciding to take a gap year, a dilation year, whatever... Followed by covid year. Then at the end of the season, slipping in "big fails the first time, praying it'll be better this time".... Seems really clumsy and misleading (at best). Why not be upfront from the start? They detailed 4 gender reassignment surgeries, Jeanette's facelift, grandma's pill addiction. But they lie and cover THIS up?

Am I missing something?
The Jennings, specially Jeanette, live for their image and how they are perceived by others, very common among narcissist parents. They need to project an image of perfection to the world. They expected Jazz to become a cute, young woman after the surgery and he's instead become a depressed blob. They love Jazz, but he's an embarrassment that they can't now parade in the same way families used to send their pregnant daughter away until she gave birth and give up the kid for adoption. Accepting that Jazz is in the state he is is accepting they have failed.
 
The Jennings, specially Jeanette, live for their image and how they are perceived by others, very common among narcissist parents. They need to project an image of perfection to the world.

Is Jazz the only one who has to be perfect? Grandma's pills, Jeanette's tiger-momism, botched surgeries, sanders' worthless career, Greg's complete spinelessness, Ari's bitchiness.... What is the priority here? Jazz is perfection and the rest of the family, deeply flawed sinners, are allowed to be a messes as long as Jazz's halo remains intact?

The show would have been a lot better if they had said, "Jazz drops out cuz she's not ready.
 
From @Putin Bot 's Marci Bowers post:
"However, it should be noted that there are surgeons who have no difficulty working with these patients, producing excellent results." LIE

"ROGD is yet another damaging manufactured attack on the trans community. It has also been thoroughly discredited by experts in the field" LIE

"It should be noted that puberty blockers are reversible and puberty is resumed once stopped." LIE

"This has gone beyond medicine and into politics, and in politics truth no longer matters."

It's amazing, isn't it? Even when faced with one of the most prominent authorities in transgender medicine in the world, HIMSELF a post-op troon so hardly a hater, they are relying on calling Shrier a 'phobe and citing wikipedia articles (gee I wonder what the crossover rate between reddit posters and wikipedia editors is?) instead of listening to the guy. This summary of the issue is so hopelessly biased towards OMG u guys this guy said a naughty throw him off the island.

There is so little hope for this cult, honestly,

As for excellent results inverting micro-peens, citation fucking needed. A picture, preferably. We've got plenty on the SRS thread to choose from.
 
I wonder why Hope felt the need to trans himself? He's a tall, manly guy with an athletic build and a nice smile. Would he really have that much trouble dating as a gay man? What went wrong in his life to make getting cartoonish breast implants and going on sad fake dates with Sander seem like a better option than just being a dude?
I want Noah to go bother all the amab mxn at a support meeting for testicular cancer. If transwomen can infest endometriosis support groups, I think trans guys should get in on the action too. It's only fair.

Would you want to admit to being a denizen of the den of dilation and doughnut destruction?
He's a ravenous cock muncher with a thirst for straight men.
 
He's a ravenous cock muncher with a thirst for straight men.
I know trying to understand the logic of the mentally ill is a fool's errand, but I am foolish. So:
I can understand gay guys not being attracted to "feminine" men, and wanting a "straight-looking" guy. But they have to realize that straight guys are incapable of being attracted to them, right? I can understand the fantasy of "turning" a straight guy gay, but that's just a fantasy. In real life, he can never love you back. I know that with only around 3% of men being gay, gay guys face a lot of rejection and dating is hard. Why would anyone want to date someone that is incapable of being attracted to them? Why voluntarily enter into a lifetime of non-reciprocal relationships and dead bedrooms?
Autogynephiles using straight men like Sanders as prop in their validation psychodramas makes sense to me, because narcissistic autogynephiles use everyone as a prop.
But these HTST s just confuse the hell out of me.
 
On a scale of one to Biden, how likely is it that Jazz has handlers/wranglers that are there to help him coast through college? I don't see how anyone who hasn't socialized since tenth grade could possibly be able to handle something as overstimulating as college.
It's more along the lines of "please take your fat retarded son back!"
 
I wonder why Hope felt the need to trans himself? He's a tall, manly guy with an athletic build and a nice smile. Would he really have that much trouble dating as a gay man? What went wrong in his life to make getting cartoonish breast implants and going on sad fake dates with Sander seem like a better option than just being a dude?


He comes off as effeminate so his dating chances were already low. He’s also black and dark skinned so that could also count against him. Gay men, despite the pc police, are very vocal in their preferences for certain type of men. So he could have been an incel when he was living as a man.

Ironically, his dating chances probably rose because black downlow men tend to love themselves some transwomen. They get the best of both worlds.
 
Watching Jazz prancing around with Raymond made me sad. Little Jazz was just like so many friends' kids who turned out to be gay men -- expressive, theatrical, loving dressing up and putting on mom's shoes and makeup. I suspect that Raymond was that way as well. Watching them together, I couldn't help but thinking that we were watching what Jazz could have been had he been allowed to be a flamboyant, expressive little boy who loved rainbow bathing suits and high heels and was perfect the way he was.
 
I want Noah to go bother all the amab mxn at a support meeting for testicular cancer. If transwomen can infest endometriosis support groups, I think trans guys should get in on the action too. It's only fair.
Noah, and other FTMs, do not act like TIMs, and therefore, do not invade the spaces of men. They know at their core, men don't see them as men, men don't give a shit about their problems, and men will very bluntly tell TIFs to fuck off in men only spaces, if they choose to out themselves. And besides, TIFs have female socialization, and despite all their macho acting, are very timid when with real men, be it TIMs or normal men.

I know trying to understand the logic of the mentally ill is a fool's errand, but I am foolish. So:
I can understand gay guys not being attracted to "feminine" men, and wanting a "straight-looking" guy. But they have to realize that straight guys are incapable of being attracted to them, right? I can understand the fantasy of "turning" a straight guy gay, but that's just a fantasy. In real life, he can never love you back. I know that with only around 3% of men being gay, gay guys face a lot of rejection and dating is hard. Why would anyone want to date someone that is incapable of being attracted to them? Why voluntarily enter into a lifetime of non-reciprocal relationships and dead bedrooms?
Autogynephiles using straight men like Sanders as prop in their validation psychodramas makes sense to me, because narcissistic autogynephiles use everyone as a prop.
But these HTST s just confuse the hell out of me.
There is so much homophobia in the black community, that black men can't accept their own homosexuality, so either troon out, or date/fuck troons, just so they won't be labeled a faggot. It's also known that most black troons have a boyfriend of a different race, because while black men will fuck them, they do not want to publicly date them (for the most part).

For those who read "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil", the tranny in the story, Chablis (real name Frank), tells the author that he avoids being with black men, because he almost got killed by one. However, Chablis is a piece of shit, because he purposefully would keep his tranny status secret, which, I'm sorry, you are just asking for the man to react violently when he sees you have a dick. But, he stated that men of other races seemed more accepting of learning he was a tranny even after they were deceived and found out.

I do feel bad for Hope, because I can easily see gay men being into him had he just stayed a male faggot. He, in my opinion, is a very striking man. But, again, due to the homophobia in the black community, felt the only way he'd get accepted, was to troon out.
 
It is absolutely DISGUSTING how Noah said that people like us (SIX YEARS down the line) have no right to know if our partner is trans or not. That it’s none of our business. And then she got angry when Ryan said because it was lying. He’s absolutely right. It IS lying. A person IS entitled to know certain things about their future spouse if they’re thinking of spending the rest of their lives together. They SHOULD have the right to know what kind of person they’re marrying and also know if they had a criminal past. And honestly, many normal people can look past certain things in someone’s past. What we can’t look past is someone lying or keeping certain things a secret. A relationship can’t be built on that.

These people are so insufferable. They bitch and cry when people “don’t accept”them but harass and call others transphobic over their preferences. It’s clown world. It honestly disturbed me how the “straight” friends were saying how they feared they were being transphobic for not wanting to date a trans woman. This whole thing is just wrong and degenerate and stupid.

As others have said, Noah throughout that scene was ALL GIRL. It was pathetic how she hung around the guys having beers because you knew it was this dumb girl playing pretend. It’s all pretend. And they want to force us to live their fantasy and some of these dude are falling for it only because they fear them. They fear being called names. What is this world…

It honestly makes me wonder if ANYONE in that group, except Ryan, were men. No group of normal men having a beer end their discussion with, “We learned a lot today.” I’m a woman and I know this.

Women don’t want the fruit roll up dick Noah and men don’t want the stink ditches. At the end of the day, no amount of shame or name calling will convince people to change that preference just because it hurts your fee fees.

Fuck this troon cult.

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I wonder why Hope felt the need to trans himself? He's a tall, manly guy with an athletic build and a nice smile. Would he really have that much trouble dating as a gay man? What went wrong in his life to make getting cartoonish breast implants and going on sad fake dates with Sander seem like a better option than just being a dude?
Hope seems like a classic homosexual transexual according to Blanchard's typology, which is really fascinating if you haven't read up on it. On one foot: he's a gay man who is naturally feminine and wants to be with men. His transition is a subconscious means to acquiring male sexual partners in his culture, where homosexuality is not widely accepted.
 
Purple Rainbow is their charity organization thing to help trans kids. It's purple because purple is a trans color or something... and rainbow because it's LGBTETC and targets kids. It has purple, rainbows, and mermaids.

Basically, a grooming operation, but woke.


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Is Jazz the only one who has to be perfect? Grandma's pills, Jeanette's tiger-momism, botched surgeries, sanders' worthless career, Greg's complete spinelessness, Ari's bitchiness.... What is the priority here? Jazz is perfection and the rest of the family, deeply flawed sinners, are allowed to be a messes as long as Jazz's halo remains intact?
The rest of the family think they are already perfect. That's why they are trying to "help" Jazz.
 
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