Plagued COVID Conspiracy Theorists and other idiots - This is not a political thunderdome or gay slapfight thread.

If you were actually in a scientific field you’d know that you never work with people who break ethical grounds, regardless of whether they are correct or not.
Accusing someone of breach of ethics is like accusing someone of a crime: until you can prove it, it’s just an accusation.

And again, I don’t give a shit about Fauci. He is a source for public-facing policy information, nothing more. If I want the results of a study, I will look at the study.

I am not addicted to personalities spoon-feeding me my thoughts.
 
And again, I don’t give a shit about Fauci. He is a source for public-facing policy information, nothing more. If I want the results of a study, I will look at the study.

Well he seems to have a big influence on government medical policy.

Remember "2 weeks to flatten the curve"?
Now it's "3-4 shots to regain your legal freedom"
When most of the data we have is the variants seem to be getting weaker over time.

You'd think such things would be common sense to criticize.
 
Well he seems to have a big influence on government medical policy.

Remember "2 weeks to flatten the curve"?
Now it's "3-4 shots to regain your legal freedom"
When most of the data we have is the variants seem to be getting weaker over time.

You'd think such things would be common sense to criticize.
2 weeks to flatten the curve IF EVERYONE DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO.

but people didn't, so here we are.
 
2 weeks to flatten the curve IF EVERYONE DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO.

but people didn't, so here we are.

You really believe that suddenly, at the start of COVID, governments and corporations suddenly had a moral epiphany and changed from self serving profit driven power hungry elites, into benevolent saints? You fell for the "we didn't want to take your freedoms away, but the antivaxxers made us, they are to blame!". It's like you never read history, or even the news, before COVID happened.
 
God this thread has exploded. Mr Hogan's wife turned up

On "anti vaxxers are totes on the working classes side". Uhhh, weren't you the guys shitting on "big pharma companies" and other big hob nobs? Who do you think employs the working class? "Yeah, let's stand up for the working class... But not you pajeet you help make asprin for a living how dare you"

Also you anti vax guys rely to much on blaming the government for people being pro vax. Like, there are that many people who are or who know health workers, or elderly, or someone immunocomprimised. People have seen and observed things IRL but you all come off as unemployed shut ins who at best had the starbucks he worked in demanded masks all day. Quit blaming the government.

Anyway, I got a lot to catch up on this thread
 
You really believe that suddenly, at the start of COVID, governments and corporations suddenly had a moral epiphany and changed from self serving profit driven power hungry elites, into benevolent saints? You fell for the "we didn't want to take your freedoms away, but the antivaxxers made us, they are to blame!". It's like you never read history, or even the news, before COVID happened.
what freedoms have you lost? are you allowed outside of your house? are you allowed to go to the store? are you allowed to eat at restaurants? go to work? do whatever leisurely activities you want? i mean i've been able to do all those things. maybe i'm just privileged like that.
 
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i'm assuming you boycott all of these brands then?
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I assume you're a vegan, then?
Not sure what all this is about, but I try to avoid hurting animals in any fashion or doing business with people who hurt animals to the best of my knowledge. I’m not a vegan, but I don’t eat dogs. Dogs are man’s best friend, and really should not be subject to any test that wouldn’t be subjected to a human. Other animals (and plants, fungi, etc.) have lesser souls to varying degrees and how far we go to protect them is not a one-size-fits-all approach. That’s just my opinion. I don’t demonize anyone who chooses to work with others in more lenient capacities.

Aside from the dog thing, the AIDS debacle was already an issue for me.
 
what freedoms have you lost? are you allowed outside of your house? are you allowed to go to the store? are you allowed to eat at restaurants? go to work? do whatever leisurely activities you want? i mean i've been able to do all those things. maybe i'm just privileged like that.

Sure you keep your freedoms, just make sure you get your booster of an untested rushed vaccine, keep your cloth mask on, practice social distancing.... oh but wait that goes out the window when you sit down at a restaurant, theres an invisible forcefield that must appear that protects everyone sitting down somehow. But if you leave for the toilet, the forcefield disappears. So remember to put that cloth mask back on.

I can't believe people are actually mindlessly buying the bullshit. It's like they've all gone insane. And they are actually happy they are insane.

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What's the issue here? Institutions can set their own rules for the public on/in land/buildings they own. You break those rules and the police get called to deal with you, simple as. This is as stupid as SovCits thinking they cant be trespassed from public accessible areas, or that because they can record on the street next to their crackshack, they can also record in courtrooms, police stations, and post offices without prior consent. Breaking the law and getting tazed=/=tyranny or loss of freedumbs.
 
Sure you keep your freedoms, just make sure you get your booster of an untested rushed vaccine, keep your cloth mask on, practice social distancing.... oh but wait that goes out the window when you sit down at a restaurant, theres an invisible forcefield that must appear that protects everyone sitting down somehow. But if you leave for the toilet, the forcefield disappears. So remember to put that cloth mask back on.

I can't believe people are actually mindlessly buying the bullshit. It's like they've all gone insane. And they are actually happy they are insane.

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Get tased for not wearing a piece of cloth seems like a cruel and unusual punishment.
 
Breaking the law and getting tazed=/=tyranny or loss of freedumbs.

It's winter now. Have you seen people walking around wearing their masks? You just see all the condensation from their breath just shoot out of the sides and top of the mask. They do virtually nothing, unless your preferred greeting method was spitting directly in someones face before COVID. The whole mask wearing is merely performative and political, a sign that you will submit to the state, no matter how pointless or ridiculous the laws are.
 
Anyone who comes into any thread on this site with the intention of debating virology and making medical decisions for themselves or their loved ones is an absolute fag. This is KIWI FARMS. This site is about making fun of cows and was created about an autistic tranny who raped his mother. If you want to know if you should vax, ask your fucking doctor.
 
Anyone who comes into any thread on this site with the intention of debating virology and making medical decisions for themselves or their loved ones is an absolute fag. This is KIWI FARMS. This site is about making fun of cows and was created about an autistic tranny who raped his mother. If you want to know if you should vax, ask your fucking doctor.

Yeah but you can't disagree anywhere else on the internet. Even here, on Kiwifarms, people tend to stick to their hugbox threads and refuse to engage. I'd be happier if more people came to threads and bucked the narrative, otherwise it just encourages an echochamber. I'm not saying there aren't antivaxxers who aren't idiots. I just want to make it clear that there is more nuance in controversial topics than "Smart vs Stupid"

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Yeah but you can't disagree anywhere else on the internet. Even here, on Kiwifarms, people tend to stick to their hugbox threads and refuse to engage. I'd be happier if more people came to threads and bucked the narrative, otherwise it just encourages an echochamber. I'm not saying there aren't antivaxxers who aren't idiots. I just want to make it clear that there is more nuance in controversial topics than "Smart vs Stupid"

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and you think that you get to be the guy to come into a thread with opposing views and drop truthbombs?

oh, sweetie, no, you're too dumb.
 
The need to turn Fauci into some sort of supervillain is kind of baffling to me. It's like it's not enough to think a policy is wrong and outrageous -- there also needs to be an evil mastermind you can direct personal hatred toward.
It's a common tactic of politispergs to act like people they don't like are cartoon supervillains who are out to get them. It's basically something you'd expect a child to do.
 
Sure you keep your freedoms, just make sure you get your booster of an untested rushed vaccine, keep your cloth mask on, practice social distancing.... oh but wait that goes out the window when you sit down at a restaurant, theres an invisible forcefield that must appear that protects everyone sitting down somehow. But if you leave for the toilet, the forcefield disappears. So remember to put that cloth mask back on.

I can't believe people are actually mindlessly buying the bullshit. It's like they've all gone insane. And they are actually happy they are insane.

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- Vaccine isn’t rushed. Here’s the trial data
- Have you ever tried talking to your doctor about social distancing measures, how they work, and why? Here’s another study that addresses both masking and social distancing efficacy
It's winter now. Have you seen people walking around wearing their masks? You just see all the condensation from their breath just shoot out of the sides and top of the mask. They do virtually nothing, unless your preferred greeting method was spitting directly in someones face before COVID. The whole mask wearing is merely performative and political, a sign that you will submit to the state, no matter how pointless or ridiculous the laws are.
Again, this is wrong, for all the reasons described above. Here, have another study that proves you wrong.
 
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