Chris - The Legal Issues - A Prosecutor's Perspective

I dunno, with his luck he’ll be let in a woman’s shelter while a friendly government official sets him up with a nice section 8 apartment all while Chris complains about being hard done by.
Chris has shown himself time and time again to be a danger to women, and with his rape being so front and center now when you google him, there's just no fucking way any woman's shelter will let him in, even trans inclusive ones. Section 8 has a years long waiting list as well, I'm not sure how quickly you can get in with gov help admittedly, but I think Chris' immediate best bet is to live out of a car for a bit, going in and out of hotels on ween money and maybe crashing on one of their couches every now and again if he's lucky.
 
I am sure the answer is no, but I will ask anyway!

Does Virginia have the death penalty?

Is there any way a judge faced with all of the difficulties surrounding Chris, could legally impose it rather than bother dealing with the longer term issues?

I am sure it’s not a current legal sentence for incest, but might there be an old obscure law or something a determined person could dig up and impose before it’s hurriedly repealed?

Just to be clear, I am very certain this won’t happen, this is a hypothetical musing.
 
The way I see it I think being in jail is better for Chris Chan than being homeless however, the ironic thing is that Chris Chan is going to become homeless now faster BECAUSE he went to jail. If Chris Chan didn’t go to jail he could have just kept living at his home until his mom finally died and then he would have become homeless after she died. But now he is going to be homeless when he is released even if Barb is still alive. I wonder, could chris Chan actually tell his lawyer that he wants to be charged with a felony so that he can spend the next ten years in prison? The max sentence for this as a misdemeanor is 1 year so he is quickly running out of time for his solitary confinement vacation. Right now with Chris Chan being in jail he is not being punished. The punishment starts if he is released and realizes he is now homeless. The idiot probably really thinks he is going back home after he if released but I wonder if sometimes at night he sometimes has a very brief lucid moment where he thinks maybe he can’t really go home again but then shrugs it off and goes back into fantasy land again. Chris Chan spending the next ten years of his life in prison might be better than being released after time served of 1 year in jail because, Chris Chan could die within just a year of a few months of being homeless. It’s too dangerous for a retarded man to understand how to live safely as a homeless man. Probably would get killed. Either by accident or murdered. Maybe a plea deal for a 10 year sentence is the best outcome here for Chris Chan. And yeah I know that Chris Chan is scared of the other inmates and would be terrified of going to prison because then he wouldn’t be in his comfortable solitaire confinement anymore but, being homeless is not something that is not scary. Yeah I mean I guess Chris chan could get attacked in prison by other inmates because of his autism and low intelligence but at least he would have guards to try and break up the fight but being homeless he would have zero protection at all from attacks. I wonder if there is a way to have someone sentenced to life in prison without them actually being convicted of a former crime because the person is too dumb to figure out how to be not homeless? Maybe they could start a new program in California where the police arrest every homeless person and sentence them to life in prison to keep them off the streets. You would be helping the homeless but also helping the general public too by keeping homeless off the streets so that they wouldn’t be bothering ordinary non criminal citizens. It’s just so complicated trying to figure out what to do with Chris Chan.
Learn to paragraph I beg of you, please. :)
 
Is he really that badly behaved in jail? It seems like he's being fairly compliant. The jail allows him to buy commissary items and borrow books, and he probably spends a lot of time sleeping and writing letters. He'd probably lose privileges if he weren't following the rules. I'm sure the jail staff have plenty of more dangerous criminals to deal with, and Chris has said in letters that he's made allies with the staff.

From what I can discern, he got in trouble initially for tarding out but, Chris being Chris, he responds well to immediate discipline and has more or less been a compliant inmate. As long as the threat of punishment is immediate he will continue to be well-behaved. He only does stupid shit when potential consequences have time to fade out of his immediate attention and his delusional model of reality takes over.

Remember, he doesn't trespass in some bad boy defiance. He trespasses in "let bygones be bygones" because he hasn't been punished recently, and it just makes sense to him that everyone will forgive him.

When he trespasses in protest, it's because he's fighting for a righteous cause and the people will rally around him against the bad people.

You have to literally beat reality into Chris, and keep that threat there constantly, otherwise he will construct his own reality that suits him.

Also I wonder when he's next seen outside of jail, will he still have the seaweed hair? I think inmates have made hair dye out of Kool-aid but I think unnatural colors are frowned upon.

His booking photo at CVRJ does not have seaweed hair. You can view it on the VINE website.

At least you have some siund legal knowledge. On the subreddit this one sperg still thinks Chris could get his charges dropped and go back home..... Don't laugh but we knew the average Redditor is room temperature.

Believe it or not, that's still a very remote possibility. There are ways it could happen. I don't think it's likely and I would be very surprised if it happened, but it's possible. If they work out Chris' exit situation, they could be satisfied that Chris has been punished enough and they don't need to bother with a conviction. There are also potential exit situations where he could go back to 14BC (but he would need a LOT of help with the paperwork to make that happen).

More likely though, they will find him supportive housing, and he will not go back to 14BC. Also more likely they will give him a misdemeanor incest conviction so that they can say they punished him for his crimes, while not setting him up to be a repeat offender due to onerous restrictions. I do not think they want to be dealing with Chris again for weird crimes.

In the Punished Chris scenario, he's more likely to be a repeat offender because of perverse incentives, eventually ending in the Fentanyl Saga.

Does Virginia have the death penalty?

Is there any way a judge faced with all of the difficulties surrounding Chris, could legally impose it rather than bother dealing with the longer term issues?

Virginia recently abolished the death penalty.

But even if they hadn't, and even if they reinstate it, SCOTUS has ruled that it can only be applied in situations where you willfully caused the death of another. It doesn't make sense to punish someone with death (the ultimate punishment) when they have not committed murder (the ultimate crime).

Historically, punishments far in excess of the impact of crimes have frequently resulted in rebellion.
 
people that keep saying chris can get section8 AND use it to reclaim his 14BC temple if he's "not guilty"...

section8 case workers have 1 emergency golden ticket per year allowing a very special case to skip the 5-8year waiting line. they absolutely do not waste it on 1 single retarded male destined to fail and end up in a homeless shelter anyway.

2ndlywise, you can only use section8 with owners willing to accept sect8, and be willing to do the papers to qualify as a sect8 landlord, and then be prepared for the yearly inspections in-which they get told to fix everything chris broke/neglected or be labeled a slumlord.

you don't succeed in life, well enough to own rental properties, by accepting sect8 vouchers from a fucking sonichu/alicorn/CPU/jesus.
 
Chris has shown himself time and time again to be a danger to women,

An annoyance, certainly, but a danger? Only to old women with dementia who can't defend themselves.

Quick poll: Are there any women here in the forums who couldn't kick Chris' ass? Anyone?

I think Chris' immediate best bet is to live out of a car for a bit,

What car?

More to the point, Chris couldn't sleep out one single night in Son-Chu (RIP), but instead stole money from Barb for a motel. Chris does not handle discomfort well.


Does Virginia have the death penalty?

The universe has the death penalty. Everyone gets it eventually.


The teflon tard escapes true justice once more.

Don't wish death on Chris. Suffering and misery will yield much more content in the long run. Oh, and you don't have to wish for those, either. They're coming for Chris whether you wish for them or not.


I do not think they want to be dealing with Chris again for weird crimes.

I really think you're correct in that they really just want to find somewhere outside Greene County to place him so the next time he commits weird crimes it's someone else's problem.

It's too bad all the good tard farms that would keep him contained are too nice / expensive for the likes of Chris.
 
So I'm too lazy and autistic to comb through threads, and I have limited knowledge of the US/Virginian legal systems, but my understanding is that tomorrow:
  • There will either be another continuation or the case proper will start, day 1 of X
  • Any information we get will come from field reporters as opposed to officially released material
  • Field reporters will only have pen+paper and their memories to capture the proceedings, no AV equipment
Is my understanding correct? Will this likely be a 1 day affair or longer?

As much as I'd like to get some beers and chips in to follow along with the trial of the century (for autists) it will probably just be a day of rampant speculation on here followed by a dry write-up.
 
So I'm too lazy and autistic to comb through threads, and I have limited knowledge of the US/Virginian legal systems, but my understanding is that tomorrow:
  • There will either be another continuation or the case proper will start, day 1 of X
  • Any information we get will come from field reporters as opposed to officially released material
  • Field reporters will only have pen+paper and their memories to capture the proceedings, no AV equipment
Is my understanding correct? Will this likely be a 1 day affair or longer?

As much as I'd like to get some beers and chips in to follow along, it will probably just be a day of rampant speculation on here followed by a dry write-up.
Field reporters might not be allowed in at all. Even if someone wanted to go.
 
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By continuing to make excuses for him, you are also enabling him to remain the shitty pretense for a human being he has made of himself.
I mean it more like "how could he really do any differently than he does" and not "therefore he shouldn't be punished". I'd love to, for example, see Chris understand better the minds of others or even that others have minds with different content than his own, but I don't see it happening.

Like I feel like if Chris could actually Curse-ye a jerkop like he does in the comics, he'd actually expect them to say "I deserve this because I'm a cop and therefore a big jerk!" I think something roughly along those lines happened in the comics (perhaps with a guy who had a girlfriend) and it really stood out to me.

But maybe he's actually way more capable then he lets on and he's playing us all for chumps. Inasmuch as his grand plan involved even the idea that he might have done the business with his mother, it's some real 4d chess.
 
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An annoyance, certainly, but a danger? Only to old women with dementia who can't defend themselves.

Quick poll: Are there any women here in the forums who couldn't kick Chris' ass? Anyone?
It's very possible Chris could prove himself to be a repeat offender. Not everyone knows who Chris is, not everyone knows he's a fucking wimp and in that sort of situation, it's very common to just clam up. Moreso for women in a shelter specifically FOR women, because more often than not they've been subjected to similar domestic violence and subsequently have PTSD. He could probably find a regular homeless shelter to bum out in, but not a shelter for women.
What car?
Chris will find a way to get another car, people will always be dumb enough to send him money just because he's the mystical Chris Chan, his testimonies from the letters proved that. Aside from them, there's always ways to get cars, American society runs on them, they're not exactly a hot commodity.
More to the point, Chris couldn't sleep out one single night in Son-Chu (RIP), but instead stole money from Barb for a motel. Chris does not handle discomfort well.
I imagine it'd be better than the alternative of a bus stop in Chinatown. Chris Chan robbery arc soon?
 
Chris will find a way to get another car, people will always be dumb enough to send him money just because he's the mystical Chris Chan, his testimonies from the letters proved that. Aside from them, there's always ways to get cars, American society runs on them, they're not exactly a hot commodity.
Maybe Chris could get a moped instead of a car? There are some listed on Craigslist not too far from him and I also found this place.
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'd love to, for example, see Chris understand better the minds of others or even that others have minds with different content than his own, but I don't see it happening.

It's not necessary. The Rollin & Trollin video shows Chris knows what sort of person he should be, regardless of what he understands of other people's thinking. Chris doesn't improve because Chris is too entitled to think he should and too lazy to put in the effort.


He could probably find a regular homeless shelter to bum out in, but not a shelter for women.

Chris isn't going to a women shelter, no matter what pronouns he insists on. Again, most small children (and medium sized dogs) could kick Chris' ass (also outrun him). Unless he finds someone as physically vulnerable and defenseless as Barb, he's not going to re-offend. He will have to come up with new offenses to commit. And he will.

Chris will find a way to get another car, people will always be dumb enough to send him money just because he's the mystical Chris Chan

Unless some ween gives him a whole car, all at once, that's not going to happen. Chris would need some form of financial discipline and save to afford a car, and Chris has proven himself incapable in the face of "some lego". Then there's maintenance, insurance, fuel (over $4 per gallon and rising), and the inevitable payouts for accidents.

Chris Chan robbery arc soon?

He'd get his ass kicked. Also he's too much of a coward.
 
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It's not necessary. The Rollin & Trollin video shows Chris knows what sort of person he should be, regardless of what he understands of other people's thinking. Chris doesn't improve because Chris is too entitled to think he should and too lazy to put in the effort.




Chris isn't going to a women shelter, no matter what pronouns he insists on. Again, most small children (and medium sized dogs) could kick Chris' ass (also outrun him). Unless he finds someone as physically vulnerable and defenseless as Barb, he's not going to re-offend. He will have to come up with new offenses to commit. And he will.



Unless some ween gives him a whole car, all at once, that's not going to happen. Chris would need some form of financial discipline and save to afford a car, and Chris has proven himself incapable in the face of "some lego". Then there's maintenance, insurance, fuel (over $4 per gallon and rising), and the inevitable payouts for accidents.



He'd get his ass kicked. Also he's too much of a coward.
There is one thing so far I have not seen considered.

A Sugar-Daddy.
I am sure Chris would prefer a Sugar-Mummy, but lets be honest, any Sugar-mom worth her sugar is not going to settle for a Chris.

A cheap nasty old man who cannot even be bothered to make the trip to Thailand to buy a Ladyboy Bride might just might, settle for Chris.

I am sure Chris could mentally justify such a horrible situation, once he realizes how fucked he is.
 
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