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I bet she made nurie load that case of water under the cart, probably why it's crooked. :-(
Trainwreck Jill C Noyes Rodrigues / David Rodrigues / Rodrigues Family Ministries / Rodrigues Family Serving Jesus / All Things Truth Printing Ministry - Batshit MLM-shill narc mom of 13 starving children and her jobless "headship". Grifting and drifting across the US in an RV. Wanted by WV CPS.
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Just as a heads up I'm by no means an expert on this, but I am experienced if that makes any sense. If I have something printed in my hand I can tell you how it was printed, folded, cut and made but I have a hard time identifying some of the printing presses used. I saw the photos in the OP of them hand saddle stitching. I assumed he did digital since its cheaper, faster, and easier but it looks like he's doing offset. Which is extremely archaic, and only cost effective for extremely large print jobs.
As I write this I found this photo on their website. I'm not 100% sure on what type of press this is. It looks like an offset that is just doing the yellow drum.
A fairly decent digital press is hundreds of thousands of dollars, but those presses can cut, bind, stitch and staple all in one. With an offset you'd have to hand cut, collate, and bind small jobs before and it's an unbelievable pain in the ass. And each job of a different size takes a certain amount of planning, problem solving, and effort which leads me to my next point.
On the topic of their website I noticed something I didn't post before. They talk about his gospel tracts but doesn't advertise any other services. But there are multiple places where they solicit donations. So if I went to fat fuck Dave and told him I'd pay him to print me some flyers or business cards he probably would refuse. He'd probably make some bullshit excuse that he doesn't do anything "secular" and that he's too holy (even if its something completely inoffensive, bland and generic). If I was another church or "ministry" that wanted him to design and print gospel tracts to hand out, he'd probably refuse to do that to. Why? Because he's lazy, and designing, calibrating machines, sourcing paper and cutting materials is too much work. He could legitimately have a small business so his family won't starve, but that would be too much. Its much easier for him to do small runs of tracts that were probably designed 20 years ago, grift donations, and sit on his fat lazy ass while his brood of children starve.
TL;DR it looks like Dave is using an old clunky way of printing that's he's too lazy to utilize. Fuck Dave.
I recently watched the "20/20" special where they interviewed several of the Turpin children.
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I kept thinking that those pictures of the family at Disneyland, and their "parents'" vow renewal in Vegas with an Elvis impersonator, looked familiar, and then it struck me - those underweight children looked so much like this family, and vice versa.
These kids knew the Bible inside and out, and that was pretty much it. It reminded me of the Muslim boys who attend those "schools" where their lessons consist almost entirely of memorizing the Quran, which isn't a good thing for them, either.
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I kept thinking that those pictures of the family at Disneyland, and their "parents'" vow renewal in Vegas with an Elvis impersonator, looked familiar, and then it struck me - those underweight children looked so much like this family, and vice versa.
When I lived in my old town, I knew a woman who owned a craft store, and she had no idea that people like this existed in our area until some of the moms started bringing their daughters to her store "for socialization." These kids barely knew had to read, didn't understand basic math, didn't have an age-appropriate knowledge of current events, etc. She's a devout Christian herself (although she keeps her religion out of her storefront) and had never met people quite like that.
These kids knew the Bible inside and out, and that was pretty much it. It reminded me of the Muslim boys who attend those "schools" where their lessons consist almost entirely of memorizing the Quran, which isn't a good thing for them, either.
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I wonder if he’d actually get much money if he sold his clunky old shit for a new digital way of print production.
if they’ve barely got any money after catering to all of Jill’s needs, with no new child tax money coming in he’s probably too broke. The upgrade would probably fare much better for Jill’s totally well thought out book she still totes plans on printing for young women and girls. Though, I’m sure a fucking job would fix that if he’d get off his ass.Of course, we know that’ll never happen.
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It seems like "saved" men (converts) are especially tantalizing options for fundamentalist girls and women (i don't know if it's the same for fundamentalist men, it could be, but the only example I know of is Michelle Duggar). I'm not sure why this is, but you can see it repeated over and over. Poor teen bride Maranatha Chapman's husband, Elizabeth Esther, author of fundie upbringing memoir Girl at the End of the World. Jrod, Pa Keller was saved as an adult, Gil Bates, Karissa Collins' husband, I'm sure there's plenty more I can't think of. First of all, 'saved' men are the closest to foreign or exotic these girls are goingto experience. For some, I think, it has to do with the awareness that marrying a born and raised fundamentalist sounds like a terrible way to live. When Jrod saw david, she probably imagined that her marriage would be a little less fundy, a man she could lead around and shape his view of christianity and a christian family the way she wanted it to be. And look, it worked. She's a vain, showy woman who dresses and makes herself up like a fundamentalist whore. She's a terrible mother and homemaker, wears the metaphorical pants in the family, shows no meekness or deference to him, but what does David have to compare her to?
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I don't think Dave understands how to operate modern equipment, nor how electronic graphic design works, and he's far to pigheaded to learn. So he just keeps banging away on his luddite setup (or commands his child army to do so) because it doesn't threaten his ego.
The full tanks of yellow ink are because he replicates the yellow smily faced tract that lured him to the church in the late 80s.
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Yes, he would be able to get decent money for his old setup. I’m not qualified to estimate how much, especially without seeing exactly what his setup is. But Covid has effected the printing industry greatly and it’s hard to get new presses or even parts for older ones. If anything his ancient press can be sold for parts. I know print shops that went out of business and had people lined up to buy their old equipment immediately.I wonder if he’d actually get much money if he sold his clunky old shit for a new digital way of print production.
Of course, we know that’ll never happen.
Absolutely this. Fat Dave is absolutely stuck in the late 90’s when it comes to technology. I don’t want to reveal too much about the press I use, both to avoid a power level and to avoid sperging too much. But my digital press can fold, cut, staple, and do some binding. An outsider would just see me pressing a button and on the other end of the machine a nice pretty booklet appears. But there is so much work that goes into that. From designing and the level of knowledge of InDesign, to all of the programmed settings on the machine, to calibrating and sourcing just the right paper out of thousands that you can get from the mill. It’s a lot of work with a steep learning curve. And Dave is absolutely not the person who would even attempt to do any of this. If he stayed up with the technology as it came out it would be pretty easy for him to adjust to new things. But now it would be like taking a man who has only ever ridden a horse and teaching him how to drive stick shift.
I’d really like to sperg on design since that is where I’m an actual expert. I absolutely love tearing apart shit graphic design. I will look into getting my hands on a genuine Fat Dave pamphlet.
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How dare you!
Graphic Design Is His Passion
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I found this PDF from 2015 in which David seeks “prayers” for a used Ryobi 3304, estimated at $12,500. No idea if he got it.
I think the printing stuff is exclusively a “ministry” because I can’t find any evidence that they take on jobs (beyond maybe for their local church?). Which is also odd. Why get professional printing equipment when what you’re doing is essentially a family hobby?
I think the printing stuff is exclusively a “ministry” because I can’t find any evidence that they take on jobs (beyond maybe for their local church?). Which is also odd. Why get professional printing equipment when what you’re doing is essentially a family hobby?
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Just as I suspected, a 4 color offset press. And the press on the website looks like a Ryobi 3304. According to this website this press is from 1996 or 1998. I can't speak much for offset presses; my experience is chiefly in digital. But holy fuck this thing is old.
Don't get me wrong, offset isn't bad, but it's used for large quantity prints like newspapers, magazines, and commercial packaging, since it takes so much effort to setup. It is by no means suitable for a hobbyist. It's actually ten times the amount of work as a digital press.
Digital would be so much more suitable for someone as lazy as Dave, but he is SO LAZY he won't even bother learning digital. That's really an astonishing level of lazy and stupid.
TL : DR - They appear to have had so many kids in part to balance out all those Muslims who are enlarging their religion by having large families of their own.
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They did shaving cream art and turned it into a contest. Jill is so fucking hilarious, this is not a contest, you are going against literal children. Its unfair, nothing "participation trophy" about it.
Their art.
Their art.
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It's funny to see the shaving cream distribution is the same as the food.
Jill gets the most and the kids get less and less as they go down the line until there's literally nothing left on the table.
How is this a fair "contest"?
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So she can afford to waste money on shaving cream but can't waste money buying food for her kids.
Got it.
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Of course Jill takes 1st place, no doubt the Rodlets have had their fill of parental abuse after Dave's debacle on the race track. What sort of mother even arranges an art competition for her kids, only to take part herself and push them off the podium? You can even keep the anti-participation trophy rant in a competition just between them. I think Renee's is the best for what it's worth.
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Oh look it’s one of the only things I’m personally experienced enough in to shit on. Once you get your hands on one that’ll be fun to rip apart lmao. they’re stuck in the 70s and 80s in literally every part of their lives minus Jill’s crippling social media addiction, so I can only imagine what spergery that book contains.
I know it was already made but obligatory
Also: Tessie and Kaylee’s make great use of negative space AND perspective, and I’m supposed to believe that Jill’s artwork is the best? The only thing she did different was turn her shit into a fucking heart, otherwise it looks like something a 6 year old would shit out. How fair is it to compete against a 4 year old with brain damage? Of course Janessa’s can’t keep up with everyone else who’s older than her. How attention starved can you possibly be??
I wish it wasn’t lost to the cancer that was r/fundiesnark, but there was someone who was a friend of Nurie’s in Florida who commented on a status Jill had a while ago. She basically said nurie had told this girl what was happening in the Rodmobile, and that Jill wasn’t slick. She deleted her commented(or maybe Jill did idk) but I thought that was pretty damning that both oldest children confided in another person and both times said confidant hinted how bad Jill and David the Ogre actually are enough to publicly ask for immediate help/ put the family on blast in front of others. I really don’t want to join that mess again to get it, but I do wish they’d go public again so I could get the screenshots of it.
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I don't recall the exact circumstances, but he did turn down a print job because the content of the pamphlet or whatever was insufficiently holy. J believe it was posted here.
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Feast your eyes (since the rodlets can’t feast on anything):Oh look it’s one of the only things I’m personally experienced enough in to shit on. Once you get your hands on one that’ll be fun to rip apart lmao. they’re stuck in the 70s and 80s in literally every part of their lives minus Jill’s crippling social media addiction, so I can only imagine what spergery that book contains.
I know it was already made but obligatory
Tag yourself, I’m “we’re already in hell”
They have this one about money (lol). The Rods are definitely the type to go out to eat and leave one of those fake bills that says the best tip is Jesus or whayever.
And finally, this one, which looks to be the only pamphlet you can request from them. There are no additional pages here, so I don’t know if this is just the cover or not.
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Bless your heart for finding these, good lord.
I’m actually surprised at how well the pro life pamphlet it actually laid out for printing. However, there’s no good visual hierarchy, they didn’t indent the paragraphs in the top pamphlet at all, and even in the second pamphlet the indentation is super inconsistent lmfao do they not proofread? (We know the answer)
The money chick tract is actually GOOD on visual hierarchy but there’s no cohesiveness in the color scheme they chose and looks like they vomited different colors on each title and the leading ( the space between the titles and the end of the paragraphs) are hard to follow. No visual flow there either. Holy fuck, it’s inconsistent too. The leading is fine toward the end of the pamphlet, but before that it’s awful and so hard to read.
The rainbow colored one is autistic as fuck and needs no further explanation. The one about going to hell needs to get rid of the flower background for better contrast and better visual flow.
TL; DR print production and design sperging: David is barely competent at printing and is retarded when it comes to designing. He’d blue screen trying to learn inDesign and his shit looks like it came out of Microsoft word like I expected and predicted. Wonder what photos they stole off the internet for their pics and covers.
Does this guy know, or care, what the rainbow represents nowadays?
And as for the tracts, what's with the "Ro" or "Re"? Okay, I know it's Romans and Revelation, but the kind of person this is aimed at probably wouldn't.
And as for the tracts, what's with the "Ro" or "Re"? Okay, I know it's Romans and Revelation, but the kind of person this is aimed at probably wouldn't.