UK Roma accuse government of hypocrisy over Jimmy Carr joke - Gypsies angry

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Members of the Gypsy, Roma and Traveller community have accused the government of hypocrisy after ministers condemned a Holocaust joke by Jimmy Carr while pushing through a raft of legislation hostile to their way of life.

The Traveller Movement, which represents the GRT community, said it had been “surprised” by the government’s promises to better protect the community against hate speech following the backlash to Carr’s joke, in which he said the genocide of Romani and Sinti gypsies in the Holocaust is ignored because people don’t want to “focus on the positives”.

Greg Sproston, policy and campaigns manager for the Traveller Movement, said the government was currently trying to pass three bills – on policing, nationality and borders and elections – all of which will “have disproportionately negative impacts” on the GRT community. He added that a national strategy to reduce inequality in the community announced over two years ago “still has not materialised”.

“If the government is serious about protecting and supporting these communities, they would scrap this discriminatory legislation and bring forward the strategy without delay,” he said.

The policing bill is especially controversial within the GRT community as it would give police powers to move travellers’ camps if anyone complained, regardless of whether a crime had been committed.

Billy Welch, the head gypsy and spokesman for the UK’s Roma population, said he is consulting lawyers to see if Carr could be prosecuted for inciting racial hatred.

He said the comedian’s joke was offensive in part because of the legacy of trauma after between 200,000 and 2 million Romani and Sinti gypsies were murdered in the Holocaust.

“There are many still living who witnessed the brutality of what happened, and many more who lost their families in barbarous and sadistic murders. Making a joke of it is too painful,” he said.

The Traveller Movement has called on Netflix, which aired the His Dark Material special containing the joke in December, to remove the gag and apologise. The group’s petition has gained thousands of signatories.

The charity has also offered to help the platform amend its editorial guidelines to prevent a repeat of the incident. “It’s hard to over-stress the hurt and distress this causes,” Sproston said.

Sproston said Carr’s joke demonstrated that the GRT community is consistently “seen as low-hanging fruit or a legitimate target”, and that many people do not understand that they are a defined ethnic minority whose rights are protected by law.

He said one young Irish traveller told him “no matter what he achieved or where he is in life, as soon as he hears a comment like that it diminishes his progress and he’s back to square one, because it reminds him of everything society thinks about him”.

A recent survey by University of Birmingham researchers found that 44% of people in the UK had negative attitudes towards GRT people, making them the “least liked group”, nearly double the level for Muslims, who were the second group to receive the most prejudice.

Research by the Traveller Movement in 2017 found that 91% of GRT people had experienced discrimination, which it described as “the last acceptable form of racism”. These attitudes have a profound impact on areas such as employment and education, where GRT people underperform, and the criminal justice system, where they are over-represented.

Carr has defended the joke as raising awareness of the genocide of an estimated 25-50% of Europe’s population of Roma and Sinti gypsies, and some commenters have suggested it may have been intended ironically to highlight prejudice against the GRT community.

However, Sproston said the audience’s laughter and some reactions on social media show that anti-GRT attitudes are so deeply entrenched that many took the joke at face value, which could further harm an already deeply disadvantaged community.

Rosa Cisneros, a member of the GRT community who researches Romani culture at Coventry University, said she was “sad but not surprised” by Carr’s joke.

“This situation has highlighted that anti-Gypsyism and Romaphobia still exists today. For me, it isn’t about censoring Jimmy Carr or being offended or me being part of the ‘woke’ brigade that I want to just cancel a show or infringe on someone’s freedom of speech and his rights. No, I am utterly horrified that we live in a space where such harmful and hateful speech is accepted and seen as a joke.”


 
Pikeys always claim they want to live outside society, but expect society to protect them when someone tells them to fuck off.

Eat shit vermin.
What do you mean we cant squat on private land and generally cause a ruckus and let our children terrorise the surrounding neighbourhoods while we steal the copper from the local primary school, its our way of life!
 
Who are the Roma? Do they have an embassy. Where is their land.
It is ironic to think of a shifty rootless group begging governments to do things for them, when they regularly cross borders just to exploit different rules(or lack thereof) in different areas. If you won't settle down into a society, then you don't deserve the perks of it, you thieving gypsies.
 
It was a positive, I still think we should gas the thieving pikey bastards, its the only way to ensure those smelly fucking gippo caravans don't show up near my house again.
Just nuke all gyppo sites from orbit

It's the only way to be sure
 
Greg Sproston, policy and campaigns manager for the Traveller Movement, said the government was currently trying to pass three bills – on policing, nationality and borders and elections – all of which will “have disproportionately negative impacts” on the GRT community.
I'm curious if anyone knows which bills he's talking about. Curious to see how exactly what the gypsies are whining about

A recent survey by University of Birmingham researchers found that 44% of people in the UK had negative attitudes towards GRT people, making them the “least liked group”, nearly double the level for Muslims, who were the second group to receive the most prejudice.
Think about how utterly shit your community must be for it to be twice as hated as the one primarily known for being inbred backwards retards who produce suicide bombers.

Ayyyy it's Jimmy Carr! Have gypsies not seen his routine before?

Of course they haven't. They're dirty gypsies that live in squalor.
Hey that's no reason to assume they haven't seen it. After all, mathemetaically at least, one of the DVD players they've stolen probably still had one of his shows in it.
 
Members of the Gypsy, Roma and Traveller community have accused the government of hypocrisy after ministers condemned a Holocaust joke by Jimmy Carr while pushing through a raft of legislation hostile to their way of life.
And they are absolutely correct. It's hypocritical because there is a double standard. To be honest, both jokes -or any joke- should be allowed and free of any government condemnation, but if you're gonna do such condemnation, then do it for all. All or none.

The joke was about how everyone doesn't give a shit about gipsies and was funny because it's true

here the clip
The joke is funny because all things he said are true. The Holocaust is often talked about the death of Jews, but how other groups were killed too is often ignored. Nazis didn't specifically persecuted Jewish people and perpetuating that idea is an historical scam. We can't talk about how they also wanted to get rid slavs because saying so would put down the idea that Nazis were evil white supremacist racists kkk trump maga fascists.
 
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"Traveller community"

These people are NOTHING but fucking thieves, scum, just absolute low-lifes. Lower than low-lifes. Think of the lowest cousin-fucking trailer trash you can imagine. On any given Sunday you might catch them in a good mood and they'd act like decent people. Irish Travellers are always I mean always on the fucking make to rip off, shoplift, abuse, rob, con, grift, or otherwise take anything that isn't bolted down. As soon as they can talk their brats are spewing obscenities like a drunken sailor. The Pikeys in the movie Snatch are unrealistic because they were way too nice and decent.

I am glad I live in America. We don't have many gypsies here and don't have to deal with their thieving bullshit.

Nah man they're here. They run all kinds of scams up and down the coast. Been seeing them my whole life. Usually from the Northeast but you get some from the midwest too.
 
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