Canadian Truckers Convoy 2022 - The Leaf calls you a Nazi as he gasses you

The injunction is unenforcable. Givesendgo is not a Candadian company. How exactly will they identify the people getting money?
I don't understand how so many people are mixed up on this:
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The order is not against GiveSendGo (as an entity, or for people to donate towards it)

The order is criminalizing the act of withdrawing/using any money from the GiveSendGo/Adopt-a-Trucker donations.

So, this does not affect people donating money to the GiveSendGo, or GiveSendGo themselves. It is making using any of the donations a crime for whoever withdraws it.

So, here's how it's set up (and how it will likely go):

Doug Ford uses the emergency powers to make some giant new BS law that imposes a massive fine immediately on the protestors. Protest organizers withdraw money from the GiveSendGo donations to fund the legal fees, and then ol' Doug Ford slaps them on massive charges as detailed above under section 490.8 of the criminal code for "disposing of, or otherwise dealing with...monetary donations made through...the GiveSendGo".

The bullshit order is basically making it so that the protestors cannot legally withdraw or use any of the $8M dollars in donations in Canada (Ontario orders have cross-provincial jurisdiction, so they can't just circumvent this order by cashing it out in Alberta/etc).

So, even though it's an American company, and Ontario has no jurisdiction to seize the funds, or stop the donations, it instead has crafted a legal order to prevent the protestors in Canada from actually withdrawing and using the money legally.

And if they do, then they'll get raped up the ass in the courts based on this bullshit order, and it will be used as legal justification to seize any of the withdrawn funds.

Ontario/Canada can't do shit to America, or American entities, but it can impose it's authoritarian hellworld on the residents of Canada legally (and as we're seeing here, rapidly)
 
I don't understand how so many people are mixed up on this:
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The order is not against GiveSendGo (as an entity, or for people to donate towards it)

The order is criminalizing the act of withdrawing/using any money from the GiveSendGo/Adopt-a-Trucker donations.

So, this does not affect people donating money to the GiveSendGo, or GiveSendGo themselves. It is making using any of the donations a crime for whoever withdraws it.

So, here's how it's set up (and how it will likely go):

Doug Ford uses the emergency powers to make some giant new BS law that imposes a massive fine immediately on the protestors. Protest organizers withdraw money from the GiveSendGo donations to fund the legal fees, and then ol' Doug Ford slaps them on massive charges as detailed above under section 490.8 of the criminal code for "disposing of, or otherwise dealing with...monetary donations made through...the GiveSendGo".

The bullshit order is basically making it so that the protestors cannot legally withdraw or use any of the $8M dollars in donations in Canada (Ontario orders have cross-provincial jurisdiction, so they can't just circumvent this order by cashing it out in Alberta/etc).

So, even though it's an American company, and Ontario has no jurisdiction to seize the funds, or stop the donations, it instead has crafted a legal order to prevent the protestors in Canada from actually withdrawing and using the money legally.

And if they do, then they'll get raped up the ass in the courts based on this bullshit order, and it will be used as legal justification to seize any of the withdrawn funds.

Ontario/Canada can't do shit to America, or American entities, but it can impose it's authoritarian hellworld on the residents of Canada legally (and as we're seeing here, rapidly)
I just wanted to play Hockey.
 
This girl can add herself to the list of thousands that went through the same thing when the fucking covid restrictions kept them from their loved ones. I have no sympathy and none of this would even be happening if it wasn't for their oppressive government.
These morons keep unintentionally making our point for us. They expect sympathy but it only pisses me off. Where's the understanding for what people were and still are being put through with lockdowns? Where was the sympathy for them?
i imagine a good chunk of super bowl viewers support the convoy.
they might even the Canadian Version of Lets Go Brandon.

On the other hand, a bunch of enraged sportsball consoomers have the potential to be a fair bit more angry and willing to actually do something about it then the average seething Laurentian bugman. If the US trucker convoy materializes it'll be a Charlottesville tier shitshow at both the beginning and endpoint.
This super bowl is for rich elites to attend in person. Normies aren't going to give one fuck if they cancel it entirely at this point.
What is some fat, beer-and-nacho-guzzling turd who wears another man's name on his back gonna do? Yell? Tweet? Sweat gravy?

It's long past time for people to take the passion they put into Bread and Circus, and redirect it towards things that truly matter.
NFL numbers have been cratering for years. Now black coaches are suing the NFL for discrimination.
"Once again am I asking for your financial support..."
I am fucking impressed with how shamelessly Trumpy this fundraising letter is.
It never gets old watching the Canadians blame America whenever shit gets even remotely hard for them.

The Capitol rally has pretty much turned into a meme at this point, even with the guns drawn at each other in the chambers. Some honking on the street and Canada is about to fall apart. It's so funny. It's like watching your annoying little brother finally get his ass kicked. I want to help, but he needs to learn a lesson for once.
Americans do the same thing. I saw a poll that said basically 33% of Americans feel violence against the government is justified in some cases. 1/6 has gone from a disaster optically to a rallying cry. Republicans even finally found their balls and started saying that questioning the election results are legitimate political discourse.
 
Holy God, I'm no crypto guy but I wonder if this could be a major turning point in public acceptance of it as more than just a speculative asset and novelty.

"We subverted the whims of the power-mad Canadian government with cryptocurrency" is a pretty big statement.
fund transfer but blockchain (plus commission of exchanges)
 
I keep thinking about the protest and how simple and yet genius the whole thing is. Excuse me while I try to articulate what I mean:

1. You don't need a lot of trucks to block important roadways and bridges.

2. You can't prevent truckers from actually meeting up and blocking stuff. What are you going to do, block the truckers? Stop every truck and make sure they aren't carrying anything to indicate it's a protest? That wouldn't work, and it would just slow down the supply line, which is a good thing for the truckers.

3. You can't easily or quickly remove them once they're stuck. Moving an 18 wheeler and farming equipment is not the same as moving a regular vehicle. And getting a tow truck isn't going to help much. There isn't enough tow trucks to move 18 wheelers, and even if there was, it still takes forever.

4. You can't easily force the truckers to move via legal or financial reasons. That just makes them feel like they have even less to lose and gives them more of a reason to stay put. Besides, they are well aware that you cannot replace them easily, so they have even more leverage.

5. You can't shame them into moving via calling them Right Wing Extremists or claim they're being funded by outside sources. These aren't SJWs, they don't give a fuck. These are hard and honest workers, not lazy reddit mods. At best, the smears are just going to piss them off and motivate them to stay put.

6. Having feds infiltrate the protests isn't really effective in this protest compared to other protests/movements. Yeah, feds will cause trouble and give the media something to point and scream about, but that won't really do anything because of point #5. And having feds infiltrate to give the police the justification to beheavy handed won't work either because you can't force protestors to move via violence; It would look absolutely terrible from a PR standpoint.

7. Even in the absolute worst case scenario, where the government forces the truckers to move either due to violence or just simply mass arresting them... then what? Now you have a bunch of trucks that can't be easily moved. And now you have a bunch of truckers in jail that can't drive the trucks to keep the supply lines moving. And it's not like they can just mass hire new people to fill the roles, hell they don't have enough truckers right now, much less after you arrest a bunch of them.

There is no other way to make the blockades go away easily... other than giving into demands and having the truckers move themselves WILLINGLY.

That's the beauty of all this, it's so goddamn simple and yet highly effective. At the end of the day, if truckers and farmers etc decide that they aren't moving, then everyone else is at their mercy. You cannot even try to just wait it out either, since truckers and farmers play such a vital role in our lives, it won't take long for people to realize they aren't going to have their food, fuel, or precious Amazon packages until shit starts moving again.

And just think: What if other specialized and vital occupations have their own epiphanies about this and start their own protests? Other movements such as fast food worker strikes or warehouse strikes always fizzle because you can just easily replace them with new workers. But this is not true for specialized occupations. What if train conductors decided to halt their trains? What if pilots decided they aren't going to fly anymore? Cargo ships decide they aren't accepting or delivering anymore cargo? Etc...

Damn it Canada, look what you've started! No wonder political leaders are freaking out.
And i doubt feds have any undercover truckers ready
 
I don't know if this was posted yet, but...here. Definitely a result of this fiasco.
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Bringing back the Alien and Sedition Acts is a bold move.

I don't understand how so many people are mixed up on this:
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The order is not against GiveSendGo (as an entity, or for people to donate towards it)

The order is criminalizing the act of withdrawing/using any money from the GiveSendGo/Adopt-a-Trucker donations.

So, this does not affect people donating money to the GiveSendGo, or GiveSendGo themselves. It is making using any of the donations a crime for whoever withdraws it.

So, here's how it's set up (and how it will likely go):

Doug Ford uses the emergency powers to make some giant new BS law that imposes a massive fine immediately on the protestors. Protest organizers withdraw money from the GiveSendGo donations to fund the legal fees, and then ol' Doug Ford slaps them on massive charges as detailed above under section 490.8 of the criminal code for "disposing of, or otherwise dealing with...monetary donations made through...the GiveSendGo".

The bullshit order is basically making it so that the protestors cannot legally withdraw or use any of the $8M dollars in donations in Canada (Ontario orders have cross-provincial jurisdiction, so they can't just circumvent this order by cashing it out in Alberta/etc).

So, even though it's an American company, and Ontario has no jurisdiction to seize the funds, or stop the donations, it instead has crafted a legal order to prevent the protestors in Canada from actually withdrawing and using the money legally.

And if they do, then they'll get raped up the ass in the courts based on this bullshit order, and it will be used as legal justification to seize any of the withdrawn funds.

Ontario/Canada can't do shit to America, or American entities, but it can impose it's authoritarian hellworld on the residents of Canada legally (and as we're seeing here, rapidly)
They really are just going to have to "park" a truck full of withdrawn cash near the truckers at this point. But, again, it proves the point that the government will arbitrarily steal everything you own rather than listen to you.

And they can do this after being declared a legitimate protest by another judge. So even staying within the bounds of the law is not enough to prevent the crackdown.
 
I really find myself questioning what powers they're going to invoke.

The problem seems to be far more a logistical one more than a legal one - conferring all the political power in the world on yourself doesn't move a parked rig any faster or magically force the drivers to go back to doing the jobs that are so absolutely vital to a functional economy.

They seem to be doubling down on their bluff that they're still in control.
I think they are too arrogant to realize they are sliding on the ice and no longer in control of where the truck is going.
who the fuck are they gonna get to drive semi trucks? all the police are in Ottawa
Edit: wait isn't Ontario already in a state of emergency?
Shh, don't tell the peasants!
Ok, and then Canadians will be forbidden from donating to BLM etc. as well, right?

Gonna cut the strings of these globalized monetary connections that unite the world through GoFundMes and Patreons?
They're just going to force the world to unite using crypto. Everyone keeps acting like bitcoin has no real inherent value but it does: drugs. It started out being used in the drug trade, and now it's used to launder money and move it across borders. Plus it's a hell of a lot more secure than suitcases or pallets of cash.
NFL is already super fucked. They've lost two of the biggest name QBs who've dominated the sport in the last twenty years this year to retirement (Brady and Big Ben). All they have left in terms of big name draws quarterback-wise is Aaron Rogers and he's got one foot out the door. NO ONE is left to replace them, college football isn't putting out any new big time players.

The 2020s is going to be a lost decade for the league until they find and cultivate a new generation of mega-chad QBs and other star players.
Well I will say the other QB in this super bowl is an Ohio kid who won a national championship at LSU. He's basically a rookie.

To your point, Aaron Rodgers came out this year against vaccines and woke culture in general, so even he has been a nightmare to the NFL. I agree that they are super fucked.
 
I don't know if this was posted yet, but...here. Definitely a result of this fiasco.
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By this standard, there's no one more guilty of it than the Biden administration itself.

....There's nothing really funny I can say to make that any more hilarious than it already is.
 
They really are just going to have to "park" a truck full of withdrawn cash near the truckers at this point. But, again, it proves the point that the government will arbitrarily steal everything you own rather than listen to you.
Honestly, getting them the cash isn't the hard part. Even spending the money on the various necessities (fuel, food, etc) would be easy to conceal and mix in such a way that they couldn't prove. But those are ultimately petty expenses, even for the protest size, we're looking at less than $10k for all that sort of stuff.

What's going to happen is suddenly, these truckers are going to be facing Emergency measure trumped up new laws and charges that will have fines in the range of $10k-100k.

And if the protestors come up with the money, the government is going to sic every forensic accountant and tax agent on them to sniff through all their financials to find where the money came from.

And if even a cent of it can be linked to the GiveSendGo, boom: the withdrawn funds are seized, the individuals involved are brought up on additional charges for violating the order, and the fines remain unpaid because the withdrawn money is seized. This is how the Ontario/Canadian government is going to try to legally wreck the protestors.

And if the protestors do an amazing job of concealing the fact that the money came from the givesendgo? Well, unless they somehow launder it, then they'll just get hit for massive tax evasion charges, Capone-style.

Hopefully the organizations have used a good portion of the original Million to hire some top notch legal council and accountants on their side, because Ford is setting up a legal deathtrap for the protestors right now.
 
What I've gathered over the passed few days from reading this thread is that the Canadian government is basically Calvinball, where they get to make up whatever rules they want to screw you if you dare get in their way, with no oversight what-so-ever. Whatever Redditor called Canada a "Banana Republic" was on the fucking money.
 
Friend of mine in the Canadian military just told me "My boss in the army walked in tonight and said sharing or liking any trucker post will be a chargeable offense And will be investigated, and to report any peers who like or engages with those post for or against"

They took sides

I want to call you names, but I'm going to explain this as calmly as I can. No one in the military can make any kind of statement or play politics while in uniform. You can't say " I'm in the military and I support blah blah." I'm 100% guaranteeing that no Canadian soldier will take an order to bear arms against the civilians they are supposed to protect. Saying they chose sides is far from the truth. I apologize if someone else replied to you already.
 
The most insane thing about this is that the Email caste were quite publicly building a giant of their own, with a combination of their imported (though not always reliable as the protests have shown) ethnic client groups and the growth of automated systems. One of the big fears among the truckers is the mandate of a universal digital ID system and rightfully so. We see them flail with toothless court injunctions and the like now, but if they could just nuke your social credit and lock you out of any modern vehicle such a "deplorable" movement could only get off the ground if they fell asleep at the switch. Paper ID can have a similar effect but it's slow, cumbersome and forgeable without the kind of computer skills that the Email caste excels (pun not intended) at.
Most of them really aren't that skilled computer wise which is why they use the most basic bitch of every service and places like google are stripping down code they already had not writing new.
 
Idk if everyone decided to change their avatars or there are just a bunch of outsiders joining in the thread but there sure seems to be a lot of concern going around here.
We might just be seeing newfriends because its a big happening in leafland. We haven't been featured so I can't explain the influx of ''new'' users.
 
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