GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

Premium Dog Food said:
I was thinking of getting a decent card for compute since I do blender on the side and since I am tired of dealing with AMD drivers I was looking at NVIDIA gpus, the 3060 seems good enough to get the job done and surely faster than my current vega 56, but I realized that the quadro series exists which I know fuckall about, are they worth it? I don't want to spend boatloads of money and I don't need cutting edge shit, I need something that doesn't take years per single frame, and the AI denoiser is also nice which is a plus.
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If you like better drivers, yes. If the drivers are fucking something up in Blender that's not your problem, it's Nvidia's problem because they were the ones that sold you a card certified for that software. (at least I think Blender is on their list) There's the studio drivers for consumer cards that aims for more stability in productivity software but Nvidia will be the ones that decide what to fix and when, you bought a gaming card and not a professional card after all.

Performance wise I don't think a 3060 and the Quadro equivalent will perform differently, it's in some areas of CAD where the mid range Quadro truly shits on the regular cards. Because they started nerfing the drivers for the consumer cards almost 22 years ago.
 
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Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
"Orgy bee lighting" is a legit shitposty term that I like.
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Leave the poor guy alone, that's just how they speak in Ireland.

I went and pulled the trigger on a new gaming laptop after giving up on ever buying a desktop GPU and seeing a deal that was too good to pass up - 50% discount on the list price and most of that will be covered by selling my old machine. Got a Ryzen 9 5900hs and a 3060 which is absurdly powerful for the types of games I play.

I will report back if I ever receive it. Was a no feedback seller on eBay and he is already being evasive about the dispatch date so it's 50/50 as to whether I got scammed or not.
 
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Kosher Dill said:
If the deal doesn't go through I can sell you a laptop for 60% off. Just send me some Monero and I promise I'll mail the laptop.
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The way I described it sounds 100% dodgy. It was actually an auction sale, they had a generic description "selling Lenovo laptop" or whatever, the item categories weren't filled and not a lot of people were bidding but looking at the pictures they posted it was actually a high end machine.

I got good deals before in similar circumstances on eBay and I'm hopeful I lucked out on the price because the seller is clueless but the possibility of being scammed is real. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
 
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Stasi said:
Leave the poor guy alone, that's just how they speak in Ireland.

I went and pulled the trigger on a new gaming laptop after giving up on ever buying a desktop GPU and seeing a deal that was too good to pass up - 50% discount on the list price and most of that will be covered by selling my old machine. Got a Ryzen 9 5900hs and a 3060 which is absurdly powerful for the types of games I play.

I will report back if I ever receive it. Was a no feedback seller on eBay and he is already being evasive about the dispatch date so it's 50/50 as to whether I got scammed or not.
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Take the GPU out of your new laptop and put it into your desktop.

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Dammit Mandrake! said:
Take the GPU out of your new laptop and put it into your desktop.

:cunningpepe:
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In case you are joking...the chanks are literally doing this. My new favourite Slav tech tuber did a video on it recently.

TLDW and if you don't speak suka blyat - he bought a GPU off Ali Express, realised something was off and after a bit of digging found out the Chinamen literally ripped a GPU chip off a laptop and slapped it on a desktop graphics card board. Absolute mad lads.
 
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Stasi said:
In case you are joking...the chanks are literally doing this. My new favourite Slav tech tuber did a video on it recently.

TLDW and if you don't speak suka blyat - he bought a GPU off Ali Express, realised something was off and after a bit of digging found out the Chinamen literally ripped a GPU chip off a laptop and slapped it on a desktop graphics card board. Absolute mad lads.
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No need for the chinks to do it, AMD are doing it themselves. The 6500XT is so cut down it's worse than even a laptop GPU. How cut down? Why, limit it to x4 PCIe, assuming that people will for some reason run this budget card on a Gen4 board rather than a Gen3 one. Hardware HEVC and AV1? Pshhh, that's so 2015.

EDIT: Looking back on it now, it is actually a laptop GPU that made its way onto a desktop card just for making extra money. It just so happens to be lacking in features that laptop GPUs had in 2015 to boot.
 
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still would like to get my hands on an rtx 3070 or any ray tracing compatible card as i'd like to toy around with it in something like ue4 since i wont have to deal with light mapping and shadow mapping and all that bs since the ray tracing does the work for you
 
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Deadwaste said:
still would like to get my hands on an rtx 3070 or any ray tracing compatible card as i'd like to toy around with it in something like ue4 since i wont have to deal with light mapping and shadow mapping and all that bs since the ray tracing does the work for you
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Their new system for UE5 uses software raytracing among other techniques and there's no need to render shadowmaps and compute GI probes whenever a static mesh moved slightly.
 
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Dammit Mandrake! said:
Thank goodness video games stopped being any good over a decade ago. Even if there's a game that requires a powerful GPU, you don't need to play it and if you do play it your hardware from 2015 will still be decent enough to make it look good.
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I was trying to think of more to reply with than just "well, Yakuza", but then it led me down a path of thinking about how my parents could have visited Japan in the 1980s for cheaper than it'd cost me to build a computer that can max out the newer Yakuza games
 
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anyone think that the days of a price to performance ratio like we had recently with the 3080 at launch is gonna be a thing of the past for a while?
 
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Stasi said:
In case you are joking...the chanks are literally doing this.
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If you're willing to ghetto it you can get a cheap used laptop off ebay (especially if it's trashed, e.g. broken screen... nobody wants 'em) and just take the internals out (which are basically never trashed) and use them as a normal PC. Especially nowadays since many come with ethernet ports and HDMI/display port for an external screen, it's never been easier. The electronics part of such a Laptop is often also tiny (not rarely, a huge part of the case is taken up by the battery - a thing we still don't quite manage to miniaturize better) so it could be a good and cheap drop-in for something like an ARM SBC, just more performant and compatible. You can even brag that you're doing a "green" thing!
 
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I managed to snag a 3070 from Best Buy for a decent price after some idiot cancelled his order to go get his friend to buy it instead. Supposedly it was because he failed the fraud check or his card got declined or something. He left the store, so it was fair game and I'm about 90% sure he was trying to scalp it, in which case he can get fucked.

Despite being more power hungry it runs cooler and quieter than my 1070 it seems like, probably the bigger cooling solution on it. I kinda wanted to hold out for AMD cards to drop in price a bit so I could take advantage of AMD's Smart Access Memory shit since Nvidia's version only works with Intel mobos right now, but I don't think the performance boost is that significant, at least not on top of the already significant boost going from my old card is.
 
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Brain Problems said:
Saw some interesting posts on a deal hunting website I follow making comments about optimism about GPUs and price drops in June because Ethereum is doing something? Does anyone know about this and can I dare to dream?
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A bunch of tech YouTubers that YouTube recommends to me have been saying that as well.

Hardware Unboxed does a monthly GPU prices video, and talked about how prices are lowest they've been for a year due to crypto mining "doing something" as you said (I don't follow crypto). Though there's still huge price inflation.

Like you, I'm tempted to spec out my next PC now in the hopes prices are back to normal by the time summer rolls around, but realistically, I don't think prices will drop to pre-pandemic levels any time soon unless something big happens like crypto mining becomes unprofitable.
 
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