Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[lady stoneheart]

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Insight into the Chubeverse anyone? Just looked up and remembered what film he means, smh, whatever.

I guess he just thinks he’s way more deep than his obsessive outgroup The Cis, but I’m not trying to rewatch that again with this in mind to draw anything further from it.

Annihilation is one of my very favorite movies of the 2010s. sometimes when people have truly unhinged interpretations about media i really love, i have to wonder for a second if i seriously misunderstood what i was consuming. eg “The Witcher is about how racism is good”, “everyone in LOTR is actually gay”, and now “Annihilation is a transgender metaphor.” unless of course it is based on a literal, face-value interpretation of the film, which is “a bunch of suffering people attempt to invade and understand something beyond their comprehension, their bodies change in frightening ways, and then they all die.” honestly the FtM insistence that “Dune is a transgender metaphor” that popped up in obscure internet places after the movie came out makes slightly more sense than this interpretation of Annihilation. i think ol’ lies just saw a really good movie that was about female characters and couldn’t resist trying to shove his mile wide shoulders in where they don’t belong. no matter what the plot is or the intended subtext or symbolic interpretations, if it has an almost entirely female cast it must be about him.

 

[AfghanBlue]

It's an established fact that black women have way more testosterone than any other type of woman on average. It's what led to hilarious articles like this:

https://www.11alive.com/article/sports/olympics/black-women-disqualified-olympic-races-high-testerone-levels/85-af3447b3-493e-40c9-9f67-0fae0daa3bbf

Lol, No it is not 'an established fact'. please source your findings.

Aside form these 3 people-
it’s not like a feature of black women, This is a highly specific sample of 3 Individuals who basically have established intersex conditions.
Obviously genetic propensity to issues varies race by race which is why you get three women from a localised part of the world.

This has got shit all to do with rich white doughy psuedo leftists using black women as their unconsulted Trojan horse into sports/ Insulting attempts to virtue signal generally.

 

[Shotgun Badger]

He was sacked off after one attempt- the contract was drawn up PRE troon- they have him one shot early transition which he absolutely blew(see the video posted up there) so he’s basically not even good enough to fed.

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Insight into the Chubeverse anyone? Just looked up and remembered what film he means, smh, whatever.

I guess he just thinks he’s way more deep than his obsessive outgroup The Cis, but I’m not trying to rewatch that again with this in mind to draw anything further from it.

You really can't go wrong these days by saying that just about any film vaguely open to interpretation is actually about being Trans.

Look at the floodgates that were opened when both Wachowskis came out as trans.

Considering how troons love to bring up black women when cryraging about "masculine features don't equal man" and "Western norms of beauty" - completely valid arguments by themselves, when used by actual women - the feeling must be mutual. Lipstick Alley is absolutely, positively, mercilessly savage to trannies.

Its a talking point so terrible and obviously racist it still blows my mind when people throw it out there. Even the most dyed in the wool racist would be happy to say that Black women are, shock, women. In fact some of the worst oppression historically directed against Black people have converged on the biological fact that they are women in a way where the unique sex based oppression they experience makes things worse, think for example the fact that sexual assault and sexual health for Black women has often been terrible compared to White women.

Like in the era of slavery they literally had breeding programs where Black women were forced to carry babies on the orders of their masters so they'd have more people to sell and exploit, this is not possible in a world where sex is an arbitrary designation.

And it belies troons complete ignorance when they talk about how their issues are similar to that of racial minorities because we both have masculine features don't you know, we're definitely not just repeating and uncritically confirming stereotypes coming from the worst people on earth! Oh also try to ignore the fact that every black woman on earth will still obviously have a woman's reproductive system and chromosomes which are infinitely more important for sex designation than any skin deep features we might fixate on to create such an incredibly shaky equivalence, that's just European, Colonialist bioessentialism because Black people had no idea about the differences between men and women before 1500, don't you know. I'm still deffo not a racist by the way, no siree bob.

 

[PennyAni]

This is considered "extremely beautiful" in bongonistan.
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Jesus Christ...What the hell is happening over there?

I don't get it. She....looks beautiful to me? Am I missing something?

Spoiler: jan v. feb

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Honestly I'm not seeing any difference yet, at least not from the eyes up.

Also: forgive me if I've asked this before (it feels like deja vu), but does Olly wear blue contacts sometimes? A lot of the time?

I do seem to have a vague memory of him - in "boy mode"- having blue eyes. Hm.

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Alice as Applejack? Yeah that's such a horrible take, I dont even know what to do with it.

If, gun to head, I HAD to play this game and match up these perverted assholes to MLPs.....hm.

Ok I think Olly would be some mix of the worst qualities of Twilight Sparkle and Rarity. Alice...I just cant do it. Ashamed to admit that I've given this a full 15 min. of thought, and I just cant play the game with Alice.

 

[narcissistic injury]

I still don't get the joke here. This is an old meme? What did it mean? You know what- I'll Google that first.

In other news: the Farms keeps going down before I can fully catch up and it's surprising how attached I apparently am to this thread and all you weirdos lol

Same

The farms is back woo!! Time to curl up and read this smut!

 

[Freesia]

Lol, No it is not 'an established fact'. please source your findings.

Aside form these 3 people-
it’s not like a feature of black women, This is a highly specific sample of 3 Individuals who basically have a mild intersex condition, in that it is mainly hormonal in its expression.
Obviously genetic propensity to issues varies race by race which is why you get three women from a localised part of the world.

This has got shit all to do with rich white doughy psuedo leftists using black women as their unconsulted Trojan horse into sports/ Insulting attempts to virtue signal generally.

It is a feature of black women, they have more testosterone on average.

https://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/10/30/racial-and-health-differences-may-coexist

>consider that black women produce more testosterone than white women

It spells it out for you. Also the amounts of DHT differs as well. Blacks also tend to have higher androgen receptor expressions, meaning they're more sensitive to testosterone. The more sensitive you are to testosterone, the more of an effect it has on you.

 

[AfghanBlue]

It is a feature of black women, they have more testosterone on average.

https://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/10/30/racial-and-health-differences-may-coexist

>consider that black women produce more testosterone than white women

It spells it out for you. Also the amounts of DHT differs as well. Blacks also tend to have higher androgen receptor expressions, meaning they're more sensitive to testosterone. The more sensitive you are to testosterone, the more of an effect it has on you.

This article is mainly about the expression of testosterone as it combines with melanin, and has little else to say.

Im not sure what you’re getting at with this. black men produce significantly more testosterone than white men. Does that mean they are more male?

The pointregarding troons repeatedly using them as their Trojan horse, is that your average black woman is no more manly and thus less attractive in a feminine way than your average white- unless you happen to be racist and harbouring other reasons to be put off on mass.

 

[Freesia]

This article is mainly about the expression of testosterone as it combines with melanin, and has little else to say.

Im not sure what you’re getting at with this. black men produce significantly more testosterone than white men. Does that mean they are more male?

The pointregarding troons repeatedly using them as their Trojan horse, is that your average black woman is no more manly and thus less attractive in a feminine way than your average white- unless you happen to be racist and harbouring other reasons to be put off on mass.

No, but having more testosterone as well as being more sensitive to testosterone generally makes you more aggressive/louder/more assertive/pushhy etc. That's associated with masculinity. There's a reason why the stereotype for black women is that they're loud and aggressive.

I'm not defending troons here, but your claim that black women aren't less feminine on average is wrong.

 

[Boris Blank's glass eye]

No, but having more testosterone as well as being more sensitive to testosterone generally makes you more aggressive/louder/more assertive/pushhy etc. That's associated with masculinity. There's a reason why the stereotype for black women is that they're loud and aggressive.

I'm not defending troons here, but your claim that black women aren't less feminine on average is wrong.

That's a question of nature vs nurture. Are ghetto niggers more aggressive than the average suburban mayo-faced honky cracker? Sure, but riddle me this: is that the result of them being niggers or being raised in the 'hood?

Now, to circle back to Ol' Lies and his Philosophy Knob and Yarbles, just as children of the two different sexes are socialized differently, children of different socioeconomic groups are socialized differently.

 

[Freesia]

That's a question of nature vs nurture. Are ghetto niggers more aggressive than the average suburban mayo-faced honky cracker? Sure, but riddle me this: is that the result of them being niggers or being raised in the ?

Now, to circle back to Ol' Lies and his Philosophy Knob and Yarbles, just as children of the two different sexes are socialized differently, children of different socioeconomic groups are socialized differently.

The "'hood" exists because they're niggers. You don't see poor Vietnamese people create neighborhoods with the death rates of active battlefields.

 

[narcissistic injury]

Okay I’m thinking that’s more than enough of that discussion

So ANYWAY

 

[Real Gay Autist]

The latest tweet about the new episode includes a "kit list" which is supposed to tease the adoring public. I am ever so excited about the upcoming episode omg whatever could the Princess of TERF Island be planning next I'm on tenterhooks.

Spoiler: Kit list

The first step is deciphering the handwriting equivalent of a 14-year-old boy's messy bedroom. Oops, I mean, the stunning and brave penwomanship of Twitter's #1 sexy female philosopher. Seriously, PT's spidery scrawl is clockable and calls for urgent FFS (Font Feminization Surgery).

At the top of the list, the next stunning wardrobe event to hit the streets of London: Black jacket, White shirt, Black jeans. Woo! And, next up: Ebola virus. OMG! HAHA! Can you imagine she just casually wrote that! That's so random!!! On the props list! HAHA!!

The list gives a few more clues for the treat we're in for. Our philosopher princess is bringing two books to the set to show how very clever she is: The Patient as Victim and Vector (2009, Oxford University Press) and "Camus" (almost certainly The Plague or, La Plague - Ollie will insist on showing off his god-awful private schoolboy French). So, in case Ebola didn't give it away, we're in for some kind of discussion of disease and pandemics. That's so 2020! Maybe this video is actually part of the RI/Valent Projects collaboration? The Patient as Victim and Vector takes an approach to medical bioethics which argures for the consideration of patients as (wait for it) both victim and vector, i.e. it's not just about people getting sick but also about them passing the disease to others. The Plague also famously addresses issues of personal responsibility to the collective so I guess we'll get something soporific about Covid/vaccines/society/how Ollie is such a good boy ad naus.

Oh, another item from the "kit list": Ollie is bringing his Covid face mask... I wonder if we'll actually have a face reveal in this episode or whether the new chin will stay hidden for costume design reasons...

P.S. a bonus for the PhilosophyTube/RI/Valent Projects schizoposter in this thread. The 2009 Oxford University Press book The Patient as Victim and Vector even argues for a vision for a "Comphrensive Global Effort for the Control of Infectious Disease", which is based on a thought experiment laid out in Chapter 15 of the volume. They summarize it:

At airports, we imagined, and at other places of public contact, people might be routinely screened by means of PCR, antibody, proteomic, nanotechnology, or other rapid tests that can detect infectious disease with virtually perfect accuracy, within a matter of minutes or seconds. When a person tests positive for any disease that he or she could transmit to others—whether in an airplane, after the plane lands, or in any other context—they would be detained, given treatment, if available, and either sent on their way or isolated until the contagious stage had passed. Surveillance and treatment need not be confined to airports, we assumed, but if tests were rapid, cheap, easy, and reliable, could be used in any areas of public contact—hospitals, shopping markets and malls, churches, and stadiums.

... and when did they propose this should take place? 2020-2030. And, for bonus points, they even cite the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation in the bibliography. Tinfoil hats and insane bedroom-wall-yarn-mindmaps at the ready!

 

[Futaba]

Olly said that his next video was going to be controversial and its about covid/pandemics? COMEON DUDE make a video about literally anything else we have all lived it enough.

Having said this all could be forgiven if Olly dresses up as a plague doctor and removes his mask to give us a face reveal lol

 

[T0oCoolFool]

It’s weird how they constantly repeat that as if it’s truth. In no way are black women ‘more masculine’ - at most, and only on average, black women are probably a bit taller ? But that’s it. It’s so odd how they just toss this little insight off again and again. Do they not know or spend any time around black people to know them as anything but a homogenous mass who it is easy to believe anything about?

The answer is obviously no: thinking about it this particular brand of troon activist are usually cloistered away from anyone non white, despite for some reason thinking they are “allies”

Even if you want to argue that black women are more masculine than another race, they're still unmistakably female and no one has any trouble telling the difference between black women and men. Troons that use this talking point are just outing themselves about how they really feel about black women.

 

[lady stoneheart]

i wonder if this most likely pandemic-themed video is partially in response/purposeful baiting to the tinfoil hats freaking out over the whole Ol Lies is a pro-lockdown glowie thing. Chube reads his own thread confirmed.

also, list contains “contacts” on the same day that @PennyAni ponders his contact-wearing habits. Chube wears contacts AND reads his own thread confirmed x2

 

[Eggman's Ghost]

The latest tweet about the new episode includes a "kit list" which is supposed to tease the adoring public. I am ever so excited about the upcoming episode omg whatever could the Princess of TERF Island be planning next I'm on tenterhooks.

Spoiler: Kit list

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The first step is deciphering the handwriting equivalent of a 14-year-old boy's messy bedroom. Oops, I mean, the stunning and brave penwomanship of Twitter's #1 sexy female philosopher. Seriously, PT's spidery scrawl is clockable and calls for urgent FFS (Font Feminization Surgery).

At the top of the list, the next stunning wardrobe event to hit the streets of London: Black jacket, White shirt, Black jeans. Woo! And, next up: Ebola virus. OMG! HAHA! Can you imagine she just casually wrote that! That's so random!!! On the props list! HAHA!!

The list gives a few more clues for the treat we're in for. Our philosopher princess is bringing two books to the set to show how very clever she is: The Patient as Victim and Vector (2009, Oxford University Press) and "Camus" (almost certainly The Plague or, La Plague - Ollie will insist on showing off his god-awful private schoolboy French). So, in case Ebola didn't give it away, we're in for some kind of discussion of disease and pandemics. That's so 2020! Maybe this video is actually part of the RI/Valent Projects collaboration? The Patient as Victim and Vector takes an approach to medical bioethics which argures for the consideration of patients as (wait for it) both victim and vector, i.e. it's not just about people getting sick but also about them passing the disease to others. The Plague also famously addresses issues of personal responsibility to the collective so I guess we'll get something soporific about Covid/vaccines/society/how Ollie is such a good boy ad naus.

Oh, another item from the "kit list": Ollie is bringing his Covid face mask... I wonder if we'll actually have a face reveal in this episode or whether the new chin will stay hidden for costume design reasons...

P.S. a bonus for the PhilosophyTube/RI/Valent Projects schizoposter in this thread. The 2009 Oxford University Press book The Patient as Victim and Vector even argues for a vision for a "Comphrensive Global Effort for the Control of Infectious Disease", which is based on a thought experiment laid out in Chapter 15 of the volume. They summarize it:

... and when did they propose this should take place? 2020-2030. And, for bonus points, they even cite the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation in the bibliography. Tinfoil hats and insane bedroom-wall-yarn-mindmaps at the ready!

I'm sorry but it actually made me cackle out loud how absolutely male his handwriting looks. His own hands are terfs!!

 

[AfghanBlue]

Yawn, Chube been boring af of late.

yeah, I'm sure the problem of an aging population will be remedied by spending millions of 'gamete storage' for trans people, just say what you mean, they are the only ones sterilising themselves os to need it. Must have gotten a bit self conscious about the constant use of the word Trans in every tweet.

and yeah, its a big conspiracy to stop troons having kids, never mind the fact that you choose to do this yourself, you as a 29 year old man have had ample time to have a kid before you trooned out.
Pay for it your fucking self, you can afford to and even if you couldnt, its no one elses issue that ou're gonna make yourself sterile.
are we supposed to chip in taxes for the never-never of waiting for Tube to-
/somehow become less selfish enough that he could conceive of raising a child
/maintain a relationship serious enough for this to be a possibility

its one of the few saving graces that people like tube cannot reproduce, and yet he is trying to make the case that we should pay to nix this one pro.

fr tho, the entitlement of this suggestion- he's nearly 30, has made his choice, and we are supposed to pay hundreds of thou for him to maybe decide he wants a kid, with fuck knows who.
the whole IVF thing is kinda weird anyway, and is surprising that its allowed (i think 2 attempts?) on the NHS anyway, when there's that many kids sitting waiting to be adopted anyway.

But of course its a tube vanity project, being about able to muster up a fuck for his own flesh and blood is a stretch already i guess.

@Real Gay Autist his new video could be about pandemic shit, he's slow off the mark enough for that.
But, seeing as he is incapable of not centering himself in any narrative, it might well be about his surgery / trans 'affirmation' surgeries in general.

He has spent the last year obsessing about how he deserves all the Healthcare(Tm).
He seems to take about a year to catch up with his own blatant influences too, so its likely.
God I hope so, his videos are so tough to get through, attention-wise anyway, a Covid one'll be
a b s o l u t e l y mind-numbing.
If he does another 'LOOK MUM, IM CONTRAPOINTS!' flat out Beauty video rip-off will at least be hate-watch funny.

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

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Chubby Chube doesn't get that having children isn't a human right and if he takes estrogen (which I still doubt) that might make him sterile, that's on him, no one else. But I guess taking personal responsibility is the opposite of "trans rights".

 

[narcissistic injury]

This must’ve hurt olly

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rtLy4sAJbRo

Contra talks about dating a man in much less affectionate ways than she talked about Chad~ in shame vid

Basically says she never loved him LOL
Sorry no time stamps today

In sahme vid she said he was the only real boy crush of her life, if was gonna be with a man he was ~the one~ , she did feel like she loved him, missed him when he was gone blah blah it was complicated

Here she just says she was lying to herself that she liked men and no it wasn’t the same. LOL. Cold. Callous. Olly is writhing in pain. The narcissistic injury CONTINUES

I love it. It’s so dismissive. Contra hates him.

Keep talking contra!!!!

 

[Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r]

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Yawn, Chube been boring af of late.

yeah, I'm sure the problem of an aging population will be remedied by spending millions of 'gamete storage' for trans people, just say what you mean, they are the only ones sterilising themselves os to need it. Must have gotten a bit self conscious about the constant use of the word Trans in every tweet.

and yeah, its a big conspiracy to stop troons having kids, never mind the fact that you choose to do this yourself, you as a 29 year old man have had ample time to have a kid before you trooned out.
Pay for it your fucking self, you can afford to and even if you couldnt, its no one elses issue that ou're gonna make yourself sterile.
are we supposed to chip in taxes for the never-never of waiting for Tube to-
/somehow become less selfish enough that he could conceive of raising a child
/maintain a relationship serious enough for this to be a possibility

its one of the few saving graces that people like tube cannot reproduce, and yet he is trying to make the case that we should pay to nix this one pro.

fr tho, the entitlement of this suggestion- he's nearly 30, has made his choice, and we are supposed to pay hundreds of thou for him to maybe decide he wants a kid, with fuck knows who.
the whole IVF thing is kinda weird anyway, and is surprising that its allowed (i think 2 attempts?) on the NHS anyway, when there's that many kids sitting waiting to be adopted anyway.

But of course its a tube vanity project, being about able to muster up a fuck for his own flesh and blood is a stretch already i guess.

@Real Gay Autist his new video could be about pandemic shit, he's slow off the mark enough for that.
But, seeing as he is incapable of not centering himself in any narrative, it might well be about his surgery / trans 'affirmation' surgeries in general.

He has spent the last year obsessing about how he deserves all the Healthcare(Tm).
He seems to take about a year to catch up with his own blatant influences too, so its likely.
God I hope so, his videos are so tough to get through, attention-wise anyway, a Covid one'll be
a b s o l u t e l y mind-numbing.
If he does another 'LOOK MUM, IM CONTRAPOINTS!' flat out Beauty video rip-off will at least be hate-watch funny.

If you want children so much, or consider it important, maybe don't sterilise yourself because of a fetish. Then this wouldn't be an issue. Just a thought. What actual reason is there for you specifically to get access to Philosophy Sperm storage and fertility treatments anyway, when regular people don't even get that for free? You literally broke your reproductive system intentionally so you could prance about in silly dresses and LARP as a cultural revolutionary. Indeed, having biological children is not a right and many people could and should not be parents, which is fine.
And dammit Choob. DON'T have children, please. No child deserves to be raised by a narc.