Exulansic / TT Exulansic / Sierra Weir / Sierra Dullea Weir - TERF detransitioner/desister who has a crusade against the "I Am Jazz" phenomenon and also a massive collection of Party City wigs.

If Sierra's position on CAIS makes her a lolcow, saying she's actually right about CAIS would mean she isn't one. Talking about her positions and the controversy surrounding them is on topic.
her position on the issue isn’t what makes her a lolcow. It’s that she’s staked her claim on THIS insignificant hill to die on.

A smart person would realize that even if this is what they truly believe, it’s not really worth defending to the death. This isn’t really about CAIS at all, it’s about Sierra not being able to stand the idea that men might DARE to disagree with such a smart, female “““scientist””” as herself.
 
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Unfortunate she's still entertaining that but I don't think she'll stick with it for too long. I think people in her following are more invested in it than she is.

Time will tell. I mean, I will never watch her stuff again (was interested but I have no truck with science deniers). It’s more interesting watching the meltdowns here.

Although someone should ask her to cite her sources sometime.
 
Her argument only makes sense when you consider chromosomes to be the sole method for sex determination. This works for the 99.9% of people who don't have some kind of intersex disorder. For people WITH an intersex disorder, they are by definition neither male nor female so trying to classify them as such using one single criteria is unscientific.

Using her argument, let's consider the example of a hypothetical inverse sex disorder to CAIS (which I have no idea if actually exists), in which a person with XX chromosomes who nonetheless develops as a male and has underdeveloped. but unambiguously male genitals. This person is, by her definition then, female, and should only be allowed in women's restrooms and changing rooms, correct?

It is called De La Chapelle syndrome, or XX male.
These are people who are born with XX chromosomes but develop a functioning penis and male phenotype.
However, it is an intersex condition, and although the genitalia is fully masculinized, the secondary male characteristics do not fully develop. These people tend to be shorter than average males, have an average lower IQ, and thin facial and body hair (difficulty to grow a beard and chest hair), tend to gain weight around the abdomen, and are usually infertile, yet not always.

According to Exulansic, people with De La Chapelle syndrome, or XX males, ARE WOMEN!
They should use women's bathrooms and be placed in women's prisons!!!
Yey radical feminism!
 
It is called De La Chapelle syndrome, or XX male.
These are people who are born with XX chromosomes but develop a functioning penis and male phenotype.
However, it is an intersex condition, and although the genitalia is fully masculinized, the secondary male characteristics do not fully develop. These people tend to be shorter than average males, have an average lower IQ, and thin facial and body hair (difficulty to grow a beard and chest hair), tend to gain weight around the abdomen, and are usually infertile, yet not always.

According to Exulansic, people with De La Chapelle syndrome, or XX males, ARE WOMEN!
They should use women's bathrooms and be placed in women's prisons!!!
Yey radical feminism!
Okay, I guess I was mistaken. She is in fact consistent in her beliefs… consistently retarded, that is.
 
It is called De La Chapelle syndrome, or XX male.
These are people who are born with XX chromosomes but develop a functioning penis and male phenotype.
However, it is an intersex condition, and although the genitalia is fully masculinized, the secondary male characteristics do not fully develop. These people tend to be shorter than average males, have an average lower IQ, and thin facial and body hair (difficulty to grow a beard and chest hair), tend to gain weight around the abdomen, and are usually infertile, yet not always.

According to Exulansic, people with De La Chapelle syndrome, or XX males, ARE WOMEN!
They should use women's bathrooms and be placed in women's prisons!!!
Yey radical feminism!
To be fair though, De La Chapelle Syndrome is noted by testicular development being completed. This is often the result of a faulty translocation of the SRY coding region onto an arm of an X chromosome in the father's sperm production. Sometimes its caused by multiplicities in regulating genes like SOX9 or copies of or deletions in SOX3.

The most similar inverse of CAIS would be salt wasting 46 XX congenital adrenal hyperplasia, where a mutation in the 21 hydroxylase enzyme prevents all progesterone to cortisol activity and the bottlenecked progesterone becomes testosterone. They become phenotypically male (prader scale 5) but do not ever develop testes because they merely have an endocrine manifestation and nothing in alteration of gonadal tissue development. But hopefully we can stop the conversations on sexual genetics now if not soon.
 
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To be fair though, De La Chapelle Syndrome is noted by testicular development being completed. This is often the result of a faulty translocation of the SRY coding region onto an arm of an X chromosome in the father's sperm production. Sometimes its caused by multiplicities in regulating genes like SOX9 or copies of or deletions in SOX3.

The most similar inverse of CAIS would be salt wasting 46 XX congenital adrenal hyperplasia, where a mutation in the 21 hydroxylase enzyme prevents all progesterone to cortisol activity and the bottlenecked progesterone becomes testosterone. They become phenotypically male (prader scale 5) but do not ever develop testes because they merely have an endocrine manifestation and nothing in alteration of gonadal tissue development.
Women can have testicles, bigot. As long as she passes the XX chromosome test, she can only use the lady’s room.
 
Yeah! Us Exulansic fans are going to defend her to the end!
Keep women's spaces only for XX chromosomes!
XX males are WOMEN!
we don't care what they look like, or if they have a penis, or how they were socialized...
keep XX males in Women's bathrooms!!!

(even though the description of an XX male is compatible with your local incel shooter, we still need them in women only spaces)
 
The video demonstrates that they have testes, not ovaries, can never have menarche, and do not develop fallopian tubes, *uterus, cervix or upper part of the vagina. Those structures disintegrate. CAIS is only a male condition.
Your final conclusion doesn't follow from the others without a tautological rule. It's all window dressing to basically say "because my sex determination process says so" (compared to the mainstream medical sex determination process).
She can’t live without a cult. Whether it’s the TRA cult or this new purity of the XX cult. That’s why she’s a cow.
Like I said earlier in the thread, she's actually filing papers with the IRS to make her cult legal lol.
lol nice try at a reversal; too bad there are 15 pages of you little bitches calling males female, screaming about mean rad fems being mean for standing by science
She gets the science wrong. That's the one advantage we have over the troons. That's the whole problem.

Like I said, Exulansic thinks sex is a spectrum and that some men can have vaginas. I don't think she ever stopped being a TRA in any way but in name. She's like Amy Dyess.
 
yeah you guys totally prove your point when you invoke yet another extremely rare and mostly hypothetical situation TT has yet to give a real opinion on that you then speculate out into a ludicrous possibility that has yet to actually manifest in reality. I’m so convinced it’s TT who’s unhinged and deranged when you all come crawling out of the wood work to gleefully crow your triumph over how one amateur spouting done googlefu PROVES unequivocally that TT is such a BITCH even though it’s literally just a circle jerk amongst yourselves.
 
people with CAIS are male. people with disabilities, who should be accounted for. but male nonetheless. the fact that a woman saying so is grounds for lolcow status rather than the focus being on her conduct … is some misogynistic TRA pick me bullshit. stop telling females we have to accept males as female and if we don’t then we’re psychotic and evil. all the unscientific feelingsy backlash has done is prompt her to double down further in the refuge of strict scientific fact. that people don’t recognise the significant preexisting trauma that exists in those of us who’ve orbited too close to the trans cult but have ample for the pedophilic AGPS no matter what they say or do is enough to convince me this is ultimately just misogyny. not the read that she’s gone off the rails; but the focus on how she’s a big mean evil bitch for choosing scientific reality as the framework from within which she speaks.
After her first CAIS video, I was in disagreement with her, but people can agree to disagree.
But as she noticed some of her subscribers actually did not agree with her conclusions, she fixated on this tiny WEDGE issue, that distracts from the issue of troons overturning society.
She and supporters may say this is vital because all reasons people who support people with CAIS (She thinks she is a woman, others treat her as a woman, etc) have been used by supporters of troons, so the line must be drawn!!!

They want CAIS women to be called male and men in all situations, and not allowed in women's spaces, once they know they have CAIS. No matter they thought they were women, have breasts that developed naturally, female external genitalia and no penis.
Can you imagine being 12 or 13 year old girl, finding out you have CAIS, and told go use the boy's bathroom, sir?
And no amount of testosterone will make you look male.
And it wasn't a choice.

Her saying CAIS people are male is not the reason for a lolcow status.
It is for stuff like this:
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Screening babies for CAIS. A very rare condition. That in times past would be considered a girl with a birth defect (vagina, but nothing past that).
Great. Call these bables males. Males that will never look like males, and everyone will assume are women. How could that go wrong?

If "Intersex truther" had not chimed in with his video and caricature, this might have faded, and Exulanic could return to videos about Jazz's dysfunctional family and unethical doctors mutilating young people with mental issues.
But here we are.


Main take away. This is a diversion. And it ONLY helps troons as they will show this absolutist nonsense to normies. This will not help women fighting for women's rights.
 
yeah you guys totally prove your point when you invoke yet another extremely rare and mostly hypothetical situation TT has yet to give a real opinion on that you then speculate out into a ludicrous possibility that has yet to actually manifest in reality. I’m so convinced it’s TT who’s unhinged and deranged when you all come crawling out of the wood work to gleefully crow your triumph over how one amateur spouting done googlefu PROVES unequivocally that TT is such a BITCH even though it’s literally just a circle jerk amongst yourselves.
She's explained her sex determination process. We can extrapolate from her words. Her process deviates from the standard medical approach for no reason other than she's a salty (ex? :thinking:) troon.
 
you know what else is a diversion? “omg can you IMAGINE going up to some poor vulnerable helpless little TWELVE YEAR OLD and chasing them out of the bathrooms????”

it isn’t happening.

I agree this is mostly a pointless wedge issue. I agree CAIS males should be able to use female facilities. I also observe this thread is full of pick me spergs who have more compassion for a hypothetical 12 year old male with a birth defect than they do for an actual human who is obviously neuroatypical, taking refuge in hyperfixation to cope with a deluge of backlash, clearly has a great deal of trauma around males that is manifesting in strange ways and who refuses to be agreeable, because she’s a fucking neuroatypical sperg who can’t process what’s happening to her right now. but she’s a woman, so obviously the imaginary 12 yo males matter way more.

@Marvin no, you’re imagining her response and using what you imagine to scream CHECKMATE like you’ve actually won something. imagining someone saying something and then treating it like “proof” is some witch hunt bullshit. but you’re a male who thinks he can tell females what we are, so no surprise to find an abyssal vacuum where good faith argument should be. males gonna male.

@KracqueDaddy that’s called projection, sweetie. once again, hypothetical situations you imagine are not proof of anything.
 
the only thing unhinged and deranged happening in this thread is two people clearly locking tongues in each others dms as emotional support through the turmoil of trying to turn a kiwifarms thread into medical and feminist discourse

Excluding women because of a genetic birth defect isn’t feminism. It’s a type of purity extremism.

I mean fuck me, troons are delusional but so are these autists. And just like troons, they resort to childish insults.

I’m not going to feel sorry for someone because she’s neurodivergent and can’t handle flak on the internet that she invited in. Simple solution really, get off the fucking internet or just don’t rise to it. Taking it out on a minute group of people who are already dealing with shit from troons is just low. You need a thick skin to do what she does.

Edit: no I won’t be fucking nice to her.
 
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I also observe this thread is full of pick me spergs who have more compassion for a hypothetical 12 year old male with a birth defect than they do for an actual human who is obviously neuroatypical, taking refuge in hyperfixation to cope with a deluge of backlash, clearly has a great deal of trauma around males that is manifesting in strange ways and who refuses to be agreeable, because she’s a fucking neuroatypical sperg who can’t process what’s happening to her right now. but she’s a woman, so obviously the imaginary 12 yo males matter way more.
I have more sympathy for a teenager with DSD than with a grown-ass adult woman who claims to be a scientist. Lesson one in academia: learn to take valid criticism and reconsider your assumptions. Lesson two: don't take valid critique personally or attack others personally.
Exulansic would get eaten alive in real academia. You don't get to act like a retard and then claim "oh no I'm neuroatypical wah wah pity meee". If she can't deal then she needs to get off the internet and go do something else.

Also, by 'pick-me's do you mean all posters in this thread, or are you reserving that one for the female posters only?
 
you know what else is a diversion? “omg can you IMAGINE going up to some poor vulnerable helpless little TWELVE YEAR OLD and chasing them out of the bathrooms????”

it isn’t happening.

I agree this is mostly a pointless wedge issue. I agree CAIS males should be able to use female facilities. I also observe this thread is full of pick me spergs who have more compassion for a hypothetical 12 year old male with a birth defect than they do for an actual human who is obviously neuroatypical, taking refuge in hyperfixation to cope with a deluge of backlash, clearly has a great deal of trauma around males that is manifesting in strange ways and who refuses to be agreeable, because she’s a fucking neuroatypical sperg who can’t process what’s happening to her right now. but she’s a woman, so obviously the imaginary 12 yo males matter way more.

@Marvin no, you’re imagining her response and using what you imagine to scream CHECKMATE like you’ve actually won something. imagining someone saying something and then treating it like “proof” is some witch hunt bullshit. but you’re a male who thinks he can tell females what we are, so no surprise to find an abyssal vacuum where good faith argument should be. males gonna male.

@KracqueDaddy that’s called projection, sweetie. once again, hypothetical situations you imagine are not proof of anything.
Dude, you’re literally on a website that was founded to bully an autistic retard. As a matter of fact, you’re literally replying to one of the guys who was directly involved in bullying said autistic retard (peep that “Christorical Figure” tag).

What makes you think we have ANY empathy for the reasons for Sierra’s dumbass hyperfixation on CAIS? Go cry some more about how uwu twaumatized she is, nobody cares.
 
Excluding women because of a genetic birth defect isn’t feminism. It’s a type of purity extremism.

I mean fuck me, troons are delusional but so are these autists. And just like troons, they resort to childish insults.
calling males women doesn’t magically make it so. haven’t you learned anything from the troons?

accused of slinging childish insults on kiwifarms? well oh shit however will I recover now! like you retards haven’t been doing the same. you can’t erase the last 15 pages…
 
Dude, you’re literally on a website that was founded to bully an autistic retard. As a matter of fact, you’re literally replying to one of the guys who was directly involved in bullying said autistic retard.

What makes you think we have ANY empathy for the reasons for Sierra’s dumbass hyperfixation on CAIS? Go cry some more about how uwu twaumatized she is, nobody cares.

I’m just quoting this so it can stand in relief against the preceding pages of crying and sperging about not being mean to imaginary teenagers and how terrible it is to be mean to imaginary teenagers with birth defects etc. only cos you guys keep acting like you have the moral high ground because you don’t want to be mean to imaginary teenagers. also because it’s extra hilarious next to the pontificating about childish insults here on kiwifarms,
 
@Marvin no, you’re imagining her response and using what you imagine to scream CHECKMATE like you’ve actually won something. imagining someone saying something and then treating it like “proof” is some witch hunt bullshit. but you’re a male who thinks he can tell females what we are, so no surprise to find an abyssal vacuum where good faith argument should be. males gonna male.
Legbeard: detected :eli:

Heh just kidding.

Though no, actually male and female are a matter of biology. Scientific inquiry in the pursuit of truth. What we do with that information, policy and such, is a different matter.

I strongly support sex segregated spaces. When I was growing up, my mother was in prison for drug offenses. If she was alive today, some activist judge might put a dude in the cell with her. That's not fucking funny. I'd kill a nigga over that.

Excluding CAIS individuals from women's spaces certainly is a policy perspective. A dumb one, I'd say. But I do acknowledge that I'm less affected by these issues, being male (and specifically a non-DSD male), so I do generally try to consider women's opinions on this. I know that might be hard to believe, considering my activity in this thread, but I do think my post history in other threads bears that out. However "consideration" doesn't mean I would entirely shut up when women are disagreeing with me on this, especially handmaidens, for example. No one, even women, can sign away all women's safety by virtue of being female. Fuck that nonsense, we all have mothers.

I think Exulansic would've just been some goofy youtuber if she didn't get really nasty about CAIS individuals, and then beyond that, double down on it. I worry she's damaging to the overall movement and that she's a flip flopper, like Amy Dyess.

I don't see myself as talking over women, but pointing out a crazy person in our midst. Of course, I'm certainly biased, being myself and all.
 
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