Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Sneed F91]

The original video is privated. Did anyone manage to mirror it somewhere else?
Here's a pro tip not aimed at anyone in particular ITT: Do NOT upload shit on YouTube if you want it to be preserved. That's how the autists in the Lost Media community keep losing shit they spend way too much time trying to find over and over again.

Honestly it looks just as bad as the deleted promo vid make it look. Here's a comparison.
Cringe promotional vid with professional cameras and lighting:

Compared to the real thing:

(sorry for ClownfishTV but I'm too lazy to find another source right now)
Imagine dropping 6 grand on this. Seriously.

 

[Kup]

Holy shit, if you go onto to the best-seller list of Star Wars novels right now, the top 50 entries are all Expanded Universe novels, without a single Disney SW book in sight:

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One thing you might notice is that the Top 10 category is dominated by bounty hunter-related books like Bounty Hunter Wars and Shadows of the Empire. I wonder if disappointment with a certain recent Disney+ show has anything to do with that...

Tales of the Bounty Hunters is kino, also the source of this winner

Mind you, Fett said this to Leia who had been “offered” to him and he took the opportunity to give her his bed, a blanket (for modesty) and a good political lecture to boot, he outright tells her “You’re wrong because you cause chaos and break the law.”

This is where the Judge Dredd-isms came from.

 

[Ensok]

Holy shit, if you go onto to the best-seller list of Star Wars novels right now, the top 50 entries are all Expanded Universe novels, without a single Disney SW book in sight:

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One thing you might notice is that the Top 10 category is dominated by bounty hunter-related books like Bounty Hunter Wars and Shadows of the Empire. I wonder if disappointment with a certain recent Disney+ show has anything to do with that...

Honestly whenever I see the words "Han Solo Trilogy" I first think about the real old books from the 80's with Bollux and Gallandro.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Imagine the legendary Luke Motherfucking Skywalker swoops in, tells you have magic powers, says he will train you to use a lightsaber, and then you will become a jedi!

Then you show up at his "temple" and it's just a hut made of rocks in the middle of nowhere.


I would turn to the dark side immediately.

Starting to make me come to the conclusion that Kylo Ren and Stimpy was right.

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

Honestly whenever I see the words "Han Solo Trilogy" I first think about the real old books from the 80's with Bollux and Gallandro.

I just got those in the mail the other day.

Funnily enough, I managed to track down a rather uncommon reprint of those books with splendid cover art by Dark Empire and Crimson Empire cover artist, Dave Dorman.

No idea why more people don't talk about these covers--I think they're actually better than the originals.

 

[Miller]

Unsurprisingly, the few positive reviews sound suspicious or come from Karens and elite disney addicts who supposedly had early access.

April 2020? I thought it wasn't even finished yet.

Compared to the real thing:

All those resources wasted on this project and this is the final product? There's a singer but no band? Kneon was talking about animatronics, they could have added an equivalent to Max Reebo's band.
Looking at that picture, if you add rust on the walls and the structures, you end up with what looks like a random room on the Destiny from Stargate Universe

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

Well, I assumed they were gonna have him get get frozen/stasis/teleported and he’d completely skip the Empire era.
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You get that “fish out of water” setting that lets the game explain the Legacy era for normies and Maul gets the satisfaction of outliving his enemies.

They also had plans for a companion system, which from the limited information available seemed to be similar to the “buddy” system from MGSV.

Probe Droid marks enemies/shows weaknesses and Talon could chain her attacks with Maul for combos reminiscent of Arkham Knight’s “duo combos”.
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Maul was even going to have a Mother Base.

I’m not saying that Maul was gonna become Star Wars Big Boss but looking at Talon’s outfits……
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I’m getting Quiet flashbacks.

I'm not even that much into Star Wars & goddamn I still feel robbed just by the Talon concept art alone.

 

[The Ugly One]

It doesn't work as the start of a trilogy only because its sequels are bad. There could have been sequels that could have built and expanded upon it and a lot of these conversations would not be happening.

That is the central point. It was written as an introductory part of a story. I simply am saying that the firm decisions that doomed the trilogy weren't made in it. As it made so little firm decisions.

Its lack of making firm decisions is a problem. The amount of mistakes made are vast.


ANH was a stand lone film. TPM due to the structure of that trilogy was also made fairly stand alone. Where as ATC and ROTS were written as part ones and two. Similarly to TESB and ROTJ. With the sequels, it was written as part 1 and then got a shit part 2 that didn't care.

Episode 8 could have opened with a continuation of the end scene of TFA where Luke says, "Rey, " "Daughter" or any other things. It could have also opened 10 years later. The first order was remounting an attack and the New Republic was sending a giant fleet after them. With a trained Rey and Luke spearheading an army of Jedi.

TFA was so nothing, that people like you who are TLJ apologists aren't even seeing that is what you are. There was endless potential, because of how nothing TFA was. Stop putting the firm choices made by round head onto it.

The ST could have been at least mediocre. It was never destined for greatness, and there's nothing particularly good about Ep 7 other than the visuals, but a competent director who didn't hate the audience could have done a decent paint-by-numbers job with the follow-up.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

The ST could have been at least mediocre. It was never destined for greatness, and there's nothing particularly good about Ep 7 other than the visuals, but a competent director who didn't hate the audience could have done a decent paint-by-numbers job with the follow-up.

And that's all Disney Wars needed to be, which the Mandalorian proves.

 

[Kup]

I'm not even that much into Star Wars & goddamn I still feel robbed just by the Talon concept art alone.

I know right? This art really highlights just how cool this could’ve been.
From what little we have to go off of, we could’ve had something great. There’s concepts for a Jedi who looked like she walked out of Blade Runner, countless new Sith designs, Legacy Stormtroopers and it’s all just…….new. Nowadays you can really appreciate that willingness to create, to innovate and do something new with a brand.

Very few memberberries from this concept stuff, the closest thing is maybe the probe droids and R2 on a holo-advertisement.

Here’s Maul’s concept art, just like Talon all of the outfits look great.

There were plans for stealth elements, a speeder bike to traverse the open world, puzzles involving multiple characters and combat designed more around the “Arkham-system” rather than the God of War system that inspired Force Unleashed.

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

I know right? This art really highlights just how cool this could’ve been.
View attachment 3009802From what little we have to go off of, we could’ve had something great. There’s concepts for a Jedi who looked like she walked out of Blade Runner, countless new Sith designs, Legacy Stormtroopers and it’s all just…….new. Nowadays you can really appreciate that willingness to create, to innovate and do something new with a brand.
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Very few memberberries from this concept stuff, the closest thing is maybe the probe droids and R2 on a holo-advertisement.
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Here’s Maul’s concept art, just like Talon all of the outfits look great.

There were plans for stealth elements, a speeder bike to traverse the open world, puzzles involving multiple characters and combat designed more around the “Arkham-system” rather than the God of War system that inspired Force Unleashed.

My experience only goes for games & fan-made but any good SW side-project just seems to either die, or turn into absolute dogshit garbage.

This had the former & I'm genuinely sad for it. All that exists now is a 38 second gameplay:

 

[Adamska]

My biggest gripe with George's take would be to have Maul come back, since he kind of has that Boba effect and his ressurection is similar in attitude to me. The only difference is the dude actually spoke and appeared more often, even though I think his story was done when he got bissected IMO.

I will grant that EU resurrections do tend to actually have consequences to people who cheat death though (palpy rotted through his bodies, Maul lost a good chunk of his force potential, grievous driven insane by implants, etc)... unlike whenever Dave pretend-kills his OCs.

 

[Ghostse]

And that's all Disney Wars needed to be, which the Mandalorian proves.

This is why, between Lucas selling Star Wars and Disney tossing the EU in the trash, I was initially optimistic.
Lucas clearly wanted to tell bigger, deeper stories and was very clearly very bitter about Star Wars/Fandom given the Prequel's reception. And I honestly hoped he was going to take his $4 billion and do non-star wars things while Disney was going to churn out safe, fan-tested EU content. The only warning thought I had reading the initial announcements was 'Huh, Hamil's a little old to be force flipping.' .

I peaced out the minute the decannonized the EU and didn't have anything to replace it. (But made it clear they'd be sifting through the corpse for plot points)

 

[Ishtar]

They have routinely mined the EU for content and to even justify things done in TLJ. The New EU is also subject to being overwritten by the films at any time, so the whole “one canon” promise the Story Group made was bullshit like everyone with a brain said it was going to be.

 

[Ghostse]

They have routinely mined the EU for content and to even justify things done in TLJ. The New EU is also subject to being overwritten by the films at any time, so the whole “one canon” promise the Story Group made was bullshit like everyone with a brain said it was going to be.

The laziest writing, and that's when I knew Star Wars was dead.
If they couldn't be fucked to go through the EU and say what was in and what was out, clearly everything was fucked. Then to additionally come out in the same announcement to say they were still using the EU just none of it was canon.

 

[Michael Wade]

My experience only goes for games & fan-made but any good SW side-project just seems to either die, or turn into absolute dogshit garbage.

This had the former & I'm genuinely sad for it. All that exists now is a 38 second gameplay:

Damit. I had no idea it would have been this awesome... We truly did lose a lot of good shit out of this deal.

I like the games we got now, I consider them (mostly) better the disney shit, but I would switch em out in a heartbeat for what we lost.

 

[Creep3r]

The original video is privated. Did anyone manage to mirror it somewhere else?
Here's a pro tip not aimed at anyone in particular ITT: Do NOT upload shit on YouTube if you want it to be preserved. That's how the autists in the Lost Media community keep losing shit they spend way too much time trying to find over and over again.

Honestly it looks just as bad as the deleted promo vid make it look. Here's a comparison.
Cringe promotional vid with professional cameras and lighting:
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Compared to the real thing:View attachment 3008491
(sorry for ClownfishTV but I'm too lazy to find another source right now)
Imagine dropping 6 grand on this. Seriously.

10 grand if you want the full experience.

Chances are the college would've been shit, so it was a loss either way, junior.

But just look at how cheap that all looks, even worse than the cringe teaser trailers. And is that fucking Ahsoka in the bar? JFC Filoni.

 

[The Valeyard]

And is that fucking Ahsoka in the bar? JFC Filoni.

While it could be a guest cosplaying as Ahsoka, I can’t give Disney the benefit of the doubt on that because every other Star Wars character either has been or will be on the Galactic Starcruiser.

They’ve even mined yet another character from the original Marvel comics in the form of Crimson Jack and brought him into the Sequel Trilogy era for Halcyon Legacy.

 

[Screamer]

The ST could have been at least mediocre. It was never destined for greatness, and there's nothing particularly good about Ep 7 other than the visuals, but a competent director who didn't hate the audience could have done a decent paint-by-numbers job with the follow-up.

I still maintain there could have been awesome sequels. There's always been the stumbles of TFA. There'd always be missed opportunities. The dumbness of killing Han. Not putting them all together. It just would have required someone with a strong creative vision and imagination.

There is no reason anything in TLJ needed to happen based on TFA. The biggest flaw of TFA was being so vague, that didn't set anything in stone.

TLJ could have started 10 years later, with a fleet of Republic ships chasing the last of The First Order down. With Rey a trained Jedi next to Luke and an army of new Jedi. That'd probably make more sense than, "The First Order Reigns."

Anyway, time to stop arguing this.

 

[Kup]

My experience only goes for games & fan-made but any good SW side-project just seems to either die, or turn into absolute dogshit garbage.

This had the former & I'm genuinely sad for it. All that exists now is a 38 second gameplay:

This here, you can feel the Arkham combat, building that combo to use your specials. Of all the combat systems to retool for Star Wars, it makes the most sense, more so than retooling Dark Souls like Fallen Order did.

Shadow of Mordor/War showed how much that system can be when you aren’t playing as capeshit and it’s properly retooled to fit a new setting.

Damit. I had no idea it would have been this awesome... We truly did lose a lot of good shit out of this deal.

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I like the games we got now, I consider them (mostly) better the disney shit, but I would switch em out in a heartbeat for what we lost.

1313 and Maul could’ve been so much fun. Both dedicated to fan-favourites (who both get fucked over in the films) and stories featuring villains being bad.

Both games were also successors to other Lucasarts games, Maul to Force Unleashed and 1313 to Bounty Hunter.

Fun fact, Red Fly tried for years to save Maul, they even offered to retool it to fit Disneyshit. Which the idea of boomer Maul putting the zoomer First Order in their place is actually kinda funny.