Epic! 8-bitguy uses 1 weird trick to detroy rare prototypes!

What personally grinds my gears is when people own all this weird and rare hardware and can't appreciate it because they know absolutely nothing about it, not the history, not how it works, sometimes not even what it really does. In my time around the Amiga community, the amount of people who had an entire warehouse of different Amiga hardware while not even knowing the most basic "user manual" stuff (click here to open that) was absolutely staggering. They didn't know how to do the most basic things, neither did they really care. They just wanted to show off what they owned, all running on fumes from these two years when they were 8-10 and the family had an Amiga 500.

They just own it to take pictures for some dumb <insert social media here> and get all those updoots and to belong to some weird community and to get excited for the next 400 Euro omgwtfbbq FPGA accelerator they're never going to use for anything except run some benchmark software from 1991 to, you guessed it, take a picture for social media for it. I think young people call these "Bug-men".
Retro Macintosh communities have plenty of these kinds of people, too. I guess that's more expected because lol Apple, but it seems to be so common that the absolute treasure trove of long-forgotten games and software for pre-OS X are largely untouched by YouTubers. Doesn't help that tons of old games just crash Basilisk II, so there's still good reason to maintain your old Macs.
 
What personally grinds my gears is when people own all this weird and rare hardware and can't appreciate it because they know absolutely nothing about it, not the history, not how it works, sometimes not even what it really does. In my time around the Amiga community, the amount of people who had an entire warehouse of different Amiga hardware while not even knowing the most basic "user manual" stuff (click here to open that) was absolutely staggering. They didn't know how to do the most basic things, neither did they really care. They just wanted to show off what they owned, all running on fumes from these two years when they were 8-10 and the family had an Amiga 500.

They just own it to take pictures for some dumb <insert social media here> and get all those updoots and to belong to some weird community and to get excited for the next 400 Euro omgwtfbbq FPGA accelerator they're never going to use for anything except run some benchmark software from 1991 to, you guessed it, take a picture for social media for it. I think young people call these "Bug-men".
In one of his talks about the old days at Commodore, Bil Herd trolls the fuck out of people by talking about the rare protos he has and how they're all just stacked up in the basement, and if they ever do get fired up it's just throw power on and let it rip, no autistically going over all the caps with an ESR meter or what have you. He built this stuff it's not 'super special' to him.
 
In one of his talks about the old days at Commodore, Bil Herd trolls the fuck out of people by talking about the rare protos he has and how they're all just stacked up in the basement, and if they ever do get fired up it's just throw power on and let it rip, no autistically going over all the caps with an ESR meter or what have you. He built this stuff it's not 'super special' to him.
IIRC Bil Herd owns 2 out of the 3 known surviving Commodore LCD prototypes and one of them doesn't even work anymore. but he doesn't seem to be in a hurry to fix it. He even pulled one apart and made a video about it. That's actually kinda based.
 
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I told the story here before but I picked a visually well-preserved Performa 475 off eBay for a pittance some years ago. I knew literally nothing about it, never owned one, never interacted with one in the 80s and 90s. (They weren't popular in my country) I basically just liked how it looked and it was cheap. After fixing it's various problems, it easily became one of my favorite machines because there's so much interesting and weird software for it, yet I made the same observation - nobody seems to care. It even took me a while to find a pixel art program (one of my favorite non-game things I like to do on these old things) for it and I even found out that there was an Deluxe Paint off-shoot (Studio/8-32) for it, there was virtually zero information on google and I really had to dig.

He built this stuff it's not 'super special' to him.
If you really dig into the gritty of this stuff it just really isn't that special. The most interesting thing about it is was time it existed in and with what limitations it needed to be made. These computers are really primitive measured with our current technology and you can easily reproduce vastly improved versions on a hobby budget nowadays. I really appreciate the few projects that don't go overboard with FPGAs and and other crazy things but stick largely to similar primitive hardware, like the various 8 bit computers and such. It's a pity that many of them rarely diverge from reference designs or just slap modern FPGAs and MCs on the hard parts (or just ignore them altogether - just use serial bro) and call it a day. To build such computers and make them interesting without going crazily overboard, you kinda need "house rules".

I'd also totally like to see more projects that actually shamelessly use modern MCUs and CPUs and do interesting, lightweight computing with them. (without just emulating obsolete platforms through sheer bruteforce) Far too few of those.

autistically going over all the caps with an ESR meter
Shortly before I left that entire scene there were the first signs of the audio-voodoo-autism moving into retro-computing in regards to caps in these old machines. I assume because there's a huge overlap between autists that have too much money and don't understand signal theory and autists that collect this old crap without understanding it. My favorites were people slapping extremely low-ESR caps (like ceramics) into analog signal and/or timing circuits that clearly depended e.g. on the discharge curve of the cap and then wondering about various problems. Except usually bypass caps (were you really can just take whatever in this old junk) you can't always just replace a cap with a cap of a completely different type, especially in these old machines where you sometimes find excessively clever circuits that employ all kind of physical characteristic shenanigans where it was acceptable that it worked only 98% of the time because you couldn't just slap a MCU on the problem. Pure madness.
 
IIRC Bil Herd owns 2 out of the 3 known surviving Commodore LCD prototypes and one of them doesn't even work anymore. but he doesn't seem to be in a hurry to fix it. He even pulled one apart and made a video about it. That's actually kinda based.
lol, the 35 year old scotch tape and other patchwork
 
I told the story here before but I picked a visually well-preserved Performa 475 off eBay for a pittance some years ago. I knew literally nothing about it, never owned one, never interacted with one in the 80s and 90s. (They weren't popular in my country) I basically just liked how it looked and it was cheap. After fixing it's various problems, it easily became one of my favorite machines because there's so much interesting and weird software for it, yet I made the same observation - nobody seems to care. It even took me a while to find a pixel art program (one of my favorite non-game things I like to do on these old things) for it and I even found out that there was an Deluxe Paint off-shoot (Studio/8-32) for it, there was virtually zero information on google and I really had to dig.
I figure nobody cares about retro Mac software because very few people in the USA had a computer at all before the 2000s, and those that did generally just had a cheap DOS or Windows machine. Everything Apple sold was pricey, even their cheaper computers still broke a grand. And considering computers were mostly used as glorified word processors back then, why should you bother with a Mac when everything is on DOS, and for much cheaper?

Just about the only retro Mac thing that anyone remembers is playing Oregon Trail on the Apple IIc in elementary school, but schools held onto those Apple IIcs for way, way, way past their expiration dates. I think they were still commonplace until around like, 2000.

But, yeah, there's tons of bizarre software out there for old Macs. Try diving into the wild and wacky world of Hypercard stacks sometime. People made entire games with it. Also, this was on Wikipedia's article:
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Try diving into the wild and wacky world of Hypercard stacks sometime. People made entire games with it.
Myst was originally a Mac-only game made in HyperCard.

For those that don't know, HyperCard was similar in concept to Visual Basic; a tool to build graphical applications with a simplified programming language. Apps were "stacks" of cards which could be moved between using buttons or text links; in that way it was a predecessor to the web, but with cards instead of pages. Archive.org has a collection of stacks you can play with using a browser-based emulator.

As someone who used Macs throughout the '90s, I for the most part don't look back on it too fondly. I think Apple adopting a Unix-based OS and all the capabilities and software that came along with that was a very, very smart idea. I guess there were some curiosities that the larger computing ecosystem missed out on, though.
 
As someone who used Macs throughout the '90s, I for the most part don't look back on it too fondly. I think Apple adopting a Unix-based OS and all the capabilities and software that came along with that was a very, very smart idea. I guess there were some curiosities that the larger computing ecosystem missed out on, though.
One thing that's become a bit of an annoyance for me now is the old 400KB/800KB floppy drives. The trouble is that they're a variable speed drive, meaning that it's impossible to create a Mac boot disk using a 1.44MB PC floppy drive. It also makes finding replacement floppy drives somewhat problematic, as Apple was the only manufacturer to use a variable speed floppy drive AFAIK.

I guess if/when I'm really gagging to use my Mac Plus for something constructive, I should pull my finger out and get a bootable SCSI2SD/BlueSCSI and go from there.
 
That's what I got. Needed some finagling because even back then Apple loved it's locked-in shit and looked for a specific type of harddrive. I ended up installing System 7 in an emulator on the PC and then just put the card in ready-made. I also got a Network card and pull the newest and hottest 0day 1337 Mac Warez from a local ARM running a FTP server. Networking and some computer that just runs a standard FTP server without frills like encryption is such a timesaver with these old machines and getting files on and off them, basically everything supports FTP. Also it takes me back to the days of actual FTP servers and downloading stuff over the course of three days - always at night, cheaper phone line fees you see - to download some big software package. (Nowadays you just torrent and that multi GB file is there in about ~5 mins, guess investing all that money into anti-piracy shit over the years was really worth it huh)
 
Incidentally, mobile development still proritizes size as mobile data and wifi speeds can still be like 1 MB/s. And we still use gzip content encoding because it's basically standard for support
 
Apparently, someone broke into Computer Reset and stole a few grand worth of retro junk about a week after LGR's video on it. Seems like showing off almost the whole layout of building on camera wasn't the brightest idea.
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Apparently, someone broke into Computer Reset and stole a few grand worth of retro junk about a week after LGR's video on it. Seems like showing off almost the whole layout of building on camera wasn't the brightest idea.
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Honestly, is this stuff really worth thousands of dollars, like sure they are rare, but what is someone going to do with a old business computer. I have a few retro machines laying around but they are all as maxed out as they can be so they can run retro software at the max possible settings. These machines are just 8086 dos computers with proprietary ibm hardware, and while cool really belong in a museum rather the the hoarders wearhouse that is computer reset. Not to mention only one of them worked as Davids infamous video shows
 
Honestly, is this stuff really worth thousands of dollars, like sure they are rare, but what is someone going to do with a old business computer.
Well, retro fans will have an interest, sure, and eBay and the like make it easy to fence hobbyist stuff like this. Those IBMs are rare enough though that if they show up on eBay, people are gonna notice. It'd be like trying to fence the Mona Lisa. Maybe the thieves already had buyers lined up or something?
 
I like the idea of some living embodiment of the soyjak meme being overcome by desire (sexually) and taking matters into his own hands..
 
I figure nobody cares about retro Mac software because very few people in the USA had a computer at all before the 2000s, and those that did generally just had a cheap DOS or Windows machine. Everything Apple sold was pricey, even their cheaper computers still broke a grand. And considering computers were mostly used as glorified word processors back then, why should you bother with a Mac when everything is on DOS, and for much cheaper?

Just about the only retro Mac thing that anyone remembers is playing Oregon Trail on the Apple IIc in elementary school, but schools held onto those Apple IIcs for way, way, way past their expiration dates. I think they were still commonplace until around like, 2000.

But, yeah, there's tons of bizarre software out there for old Macs. Try diving into the wild and wacky world of Hypercard stacks sometime. People made entire games with it. Also, this was on Wikipedia's article:
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If you haven't already I really recommend the Youtube Channel Yesteryear's Mac Games. It really scratches my nostalgia itch when I used download tons of silly shareware games from Shareware.com.

It breaks my heart that the quality games are more or less abandonware. I loved the games made by Ambrosia Software and Freeverse.

 
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Wow, that brought on a wave of memories. Escape Velocity, EV: Override, and EV: Nova were space traders/fighers a la Elite which were incredibly popular, and I think only one of them got ported to Windows. I think their most interesting game was Avara, though. It was a mech FPS with flat poly graphics and unusual controls, and really great procedural sound - like missiles would have a doppler effect when they whizzed by your ship. Great game to play with headphones. It's been ported to modern systems as FOSS, but I haven't given it a try yet.
 
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