Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

Wow, the Nazis were so upset about the good professor refusing to support Nazism that they literally attacked the professor's mom in public and threatened the professors physical safety nearly driving her into substance abuse. It merely shows that these kinds of things should not be up for debate, the bigots lost and need to be forced into silence. It's doubly sad because Dr. Lavery was about to expose in mere minutes how the entire "movement" of these white supremacists didn't rest on any kind of scientific foundation. Now it's important to regroup and focus on helping people who are suffering by getting PLEASE MISS into more hands at full MSRP.
 
A “far-right platform”:

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the real truth is that troons know their fucked up ideology and demands are repulsive to normies, so they can’t afford to present them in public where they can be challenged.
 
Ok @Null is this featurable yet? Is it just the season for professors to go fucking nuts?

To recap the last few days:

He's now apparently backed out of BOTH feminist debates (Helen Joyce and Julie Bindel) for bullshit cowardly 🐔 💩 reasons, and has now started insulting the debate forum host at UnHeard now calling it a "fascist platform"(???) after baiting and goading for MONTHS online for a feminist to debate him, former uni master debater winner at Oxford!

His MOMMY makes an appearance!
Joe, no one can send her "revenge porn" of you and Mallory if you DIDNT PUT IT ON THE INTERNET IN THE FIRST PLACE, which makes it Not revenge porn, if it was consentual? I see he's still trying to say trolls "stole" his "intimate" publically posted bite mark abuse on Mallory pics! Why you lying Joe? I thought English and words were your thing, so why are you using words incorrectly? Isn't that called lying??

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HE CANT EVEN BITCH ABOUT IT ON SM since getting booted from Insta and Twatter on the same day, for literally tweeting direct @ the government hoping for her demise, you silly cynical angry Englishman, damn that English government! Why they gotta be like that huh?

Confirmed Recovery relapse (drugs/oxy, but we all know he's gotta be drinking too)

And he even said earlier that he's supposedly gonna pay those Twitter folks for losing the $100 bets for pulling out of the debates, uh huh yea right that would cut into your fund for dressing up your whores wives wife and mistress wife and girlfriend troon husbando and lesbian girlfriend in ridiculous looking redonkulussy expensive "outfits" at a grand a shirt in Gucci.

And they wore them once , didn't fit right, and look terrible in them, what a great look for a Professor! That's where your tuition is going, Berkeley babies.

(Can a fashion kiwi make a post of his and his wives' ugly expensive clothing so far and how much of substack money he's blown on fashion alone?)

Also did any kiwis actually bet him in Twitter he'd drop out? Shit I shoulda make a burner twit just for that! I'd buy a nice shirt or ten from Jersh with that money.
 
How many copies will Joe's book sell in total? How many people will turn out to his book tour events? Shit was always doomed to fail, but they over-estimated the popularity and sway of what's basically an incredibly minor Twitter "celebrity".
Yeah, it's sort of funny to me that all sorts of producers of media and products mistake big business and institutional drives towards wokeness for popularity. Just because amazon or google makes their employees wear pronoun badges and introduces some bullsit 'Mx' title on their checkout or whatever doesn't mean anyone normal gives a shit about it, much less is willing to buy and consume woke products. Like a book about some tranny and his penis.

Those who might rush to buy such a thing are trannies themselves, and they are infamous for doing very little except e-begging. They all be poor, yo.

How much of an advance did Joe get for this book? It’s absolutely nowhere — two reviews (maybe), one Amazon review (laughable), a few comments on Goodreads. Hell, most fanfics get more attention than that. Where are his friends? His colleagues? I don’t think the book being difficult has much to do with this — the people around him just don’t seem to care enough to give him a review.
His problem is that the book isn't really one thing or the other. It isn't academic, in the sense that it forwards scholarly arguments that can be evaluated, or seeks to add something new to a field. So his professional colleagues have no real standing or background (or motivation) to evaluate it on those grounds. It's a bad book, and so almost anything they could say about it wouldn't reflect well on them, whether that's pointing out the badness or praising something awful. The publisher can't send copies to organizations that have other professionals review academic books either.

It's also not a novel, not really an autobiography, not a political statement. "Shit that Joe Lavery thinks" is not any kind of genre. The lewd bits will put off a chunk of people, the postmodernist jumping about a whole bunch more. I don't know who's left who wants to spend hours getting familiar with Joe's jumbled thoughts. The entire audience for this book is Mallory and Lily.

Well it's a book most people don't want on their bookshelf. Who wants a book spine that says "staggering penis" out where people can see it? That's a fairly small demographic in most of America I would wager.
Well, yeah. And if you don't know who Joe is, which is 99.999999% of us, I don't know how you would come to it, flick through it a bit, and think, this looks good!

As for the latest brought to us by @Trianon above, just..... <shakes head> They think every platform that isn't Pink News is fascist and alt-right. I suspect that the very act of agreeing to host such a debate would be considered evidence of Nazism. And the wild accusations. Connection between gender criticals and anti-Semitism, racism and white supremacy? Bitch, where? And the photos that Joe posted publicly are 'revenge porn' now?

Hate to say it, but there's a little bit of hope rising in me watching Joe and his allies flail and make wild accusations left and right. We can't debate because the platform are fascists! The opposition are anti-Semitic! We're being forced to debate our own genocide! Speaking about us harms us!

Their battalion is being flanked by the TERF cavalry, and they are just standing waving their fists in the air crying REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE into the wind.
 
How much of an advance did Joe get for this book? It’s absolutely nowhere — two reviews (maybe), one Amazon review (laughable), a few comments on Goodreads. Hell, most fanfics get more attention than that. Where are his friends? His colleagues? I don’t think the book being difficult has much to do with this — the people around him just don’t seem to care enough to give him a review.

He’s got a book tour in the UK planned, and now he’s backed out of an event that would have given him and his book a lot of attention. Many would argue that all attention is good attention — even if he didn’t do well in the debate, a clever person would have spun it as him defeating his fear of the scary Nazi fascist TERF and standing up for the dignity of the trans community. But he let himself be cowed out of that instead of standing by his decision. Is his publisher even going to bother to pay to send him overseas for a book that’s not selling?

I’m honestly astonished. I’m not very astute at all and I can figure out a way to spin all of this, to get people to review my book. But I think, more and more, that Joe has just become a hedonist. He lives solely for pleasure — the beautiful (in his opinion) designer things he can buy with his money, the people who will kiss his ass, and tell him how clever he is, the people who will fuck him. The book is merely a step along the way: it serves his narcissistic need for attention and the pleasure that comes with it.

I can tell you that the publisher is definitely pushing it. I was in London recently and it had its own table display in Foyles (the flagship store), and those things are paid for. I guess they'll be taking a loss on this one.

Meanwhile, Harry Potter and JKR continue to dominate everything. Practically inescapable at every turn.

lol.
 
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the real truth is that troons know their fucked up ideology and demands are repulsive to normies, so they can’t afford to present them in public where they can be challenged.
Unherd was founded by Tim Montgomerie, leftist Tory and early supporter of homosexual marriage. He's part of the mob that's driven right-wing conservatism out of British politics.

Lavery must be in a pants-shitting panic to make him do something as stupid as calling Unherd "fascist".
 
I can tell you that the publisher is definitely pushing it. I was in London recently and it had its own table display in Foyles (the flagship store), and those things are paid for. I guess they'll be taking a loss on this one.

Meanwhile, Harry Potter and JKR continue to dominate everything. Practically inescapable at every turn.

lol.
I’m loath to admit it, but I rarely go to bookstores anymore, as most of the ones here in the US appear to specialize in hocking consoomer plastic tat rather than actual books. I do, occasionally, check out what’s being published, as I have a few books myself that I’ve been wanting to shop around for a while.

Blocked and Reported recently did an episode on this: unfortunately, it appears the publishing world has been infested with the same woke politics as most other media these days. Authors “of color” are only published if their books are about being a person of color: thinly-veiled fiction and outright memoir about the struggles of being a BIPOC or genderspecial in modern late-capitalist postmodern society. So, in that sense, I can see why Joe got a book deal: it appears loads of influencers get them these days in an effort to capitalize on their online popularity. Whether or not that is translating to eyes on page remains to be seen.

Has Joe been on any podcasts yet to plug his book? This also seems to be new standard procedure, even more so than the in-person book tour.

The more I see, the less I think that a book series like Harry Potter would be published today. Harry is a white boy written by a white woman. Hogwarts is a cutesy-named place where all the struggles are largely external; no time for navel-gazing when you’ve got a world to help save. The same goes for the many charming book series women like me grew up reading, where the girls were plucky and tomboyish and complicated and usually didn’t blossom into fertile swans. They opened schools instead. It makes me sad to think about and explains why so many of our young women are struggling with their body image.
 
Does anyone else get the impression this U.K. trip is in jeopardy? I can imagine the book tour being cancelled soon because he’s afraid to even set foot on TERF Island.
If it serves Joe’s interests to cancel the tour so he can play up his “damsel in danger” routine, then yeah. It seems with his declared freelapse he’s attempting to create a blanket excuse for avoiding anything and everything, much like munchie fatties use “chronic pain” or “trauma”.

Of course Joe, being a man, would never use such a feminine excuse as EDS or fibro to shirk real life, it’s gotta be because he’s a manly recovering drunkard or junkie. None of those lady conditions for him.
 
If even 1/4 of the people at his Extremely Glamorous Release Party had left a review, he'd see like a 300% increase in engagement for his book.

Fortunately, I don't think the publisher is usually on the hook for travel expenses. Joe wants to go to England for several months; the book is just a convenient excuse.

Probably he switched agents because they already sensed doom and cordially asked him to find another rep more suited to his unique sensibilities.

I so wish we could see that "difficult" Zoom meeting with the troon mafia, but here is the next best thing:

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Joe has also just released an extensive explanation via another third-party mouthpiece. Sounds like the Bindel debate is out as well.
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"my credibility as a commentator on contemporary trans politics has been utterly shot"
withdrawing from trans twitter
transphobia is antisemitic
claims people sent his mom the pictures of him and mallory, falsely claims they were from a private instagram account
"I have felt my sobriety pressured the last week or so" (it's a freelapse miracle)
considered canceling the UK tour but FUCK IT

This is the alleged Twitter account of the mom:
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Two people posted the pics under the thread that I saw.

She did interact with a Mallory post in 2020.
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That's almost certainly Joe's mom's Twitter, I check in on her every once in a while. But how did Twitter randoms even find her, much less enough of them to constitute a small pile-on? She couldn't tag Joe cuz he's suspended, and it seems impossible that multiple separate people were searching Twitter for any mentions of Joe's name.

Joe: "I am a sober alcoholic, and I have felt my sobriety pressured the last week or so. So I need to put that first--and I've not lost my sobriety, I'm happy to say."
A freelapse miracle indeed. There's a 0% chance that Joe went to the ER or Urgent Care and got a prescription for oxycodone to treat a burn on his foot. How exactly does taking pills that were prescribed for a different issue (or prescribed to someone else), and bragging online about being high on said pills, constitute "sobriety"?
 
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That's almost certainly Joe's mom's Twitter, I check in on her every once in a while. But how did Twitter randoms even find her, much less enough of them to constitute a small pile-on? She couldn't tag Joe cuz he's suspended, and it seems impossible that multiple separate people were searching Twitter for any mentions of Joe's name.
Would you believe it if I said it appeared in that "You might like..." thing that Twitter has been pushing down our throats these past weeks? It did and I should've screencapped, but had hoped no-one would be stupid enough to engage.
 
As if Joe hasn’t publicly thrown his mother under the bus fifty times already, not to mention Mallory’s family. His pals are all “abolish the family!” and “white moms are dumbasses!” But now he’s protecting his mom? Ha. Right.

Okay, Joe, time to go home. You’ve had enough. We’ve had enough. Put some clothes on under your McQueen vagina cardigan, bite your wife again (lovingly), and take a nap.
 
Why does he talk like a lame 1950s cartoon character? “See you in the funny pages”, “rascally terfs”. His absolutely pathetic attempts at humor show how fucking soulless and bland and joyless he is. It’s either this or weak attempts at New Yorker magazine type “wit”. As hard as he tries to be a cool subversive irreverent cultural commentator or whatever the fuck, it’s extremely telling he can’t summon one ounce of real humor. I really think the ability to be genuinely funny is what separates real humans from narc mutants.
 
As if Joe hasn’t publicly thrown his mother under the bus fifty times already, not to mention Mallory’s family. His pals are all “abolish the family!” and “white moms are dumbasses!” But now he’s protecting his mom? Ha. Right.

Okay, Joe, time to go home. You’ve had enough. We’ve had enough. Put some clothes on under your McQueen vagina cardigan, bite your wife again (lovingly), and take a nap.
I'm not sure how other people found it (me, I am one of those weirdos who searches "Grace Lavery" and looks at what comes up), but I'm sure Mom Lavery just happened to log back in after not posting in a month to organically defend her son. I'm sure she wasn't pressured into it by Joe email-blasting his allies because neither Mallory nor Lily would stick their toe in over this.

It's so cringe that he is fainting over pictures he took and distributed. If your mom follows you, it is nothing she hasn't seen before! He feels unsafe because people aren't fawning over his oh so progressive sex positions. Shut uppp.

Also, here's the full text so it's searchable:
I want to offer a brief note of explanation for my part of the chaos of the last few weeks. I do so, of course, fully aware that my credibility as a commentator on contemporary trans politics has been utterly shot. Accordingly, I’m going to concentrate on my scholarly and creative work from now on.

I initially asked Helen Joyce and others to engage me in debate on trans civil rights last year. Helen Joyce never acknowledged my entreaties directly, but a few months later I was contacted by UnHerd, who told me they had an exclusive agreement with Joyce, such that if I declined their offer to host a debate, I’d effectively be walking away. I agreed, somewhat grudgingly, since I knew they were a far right organization—which, of course, was why Joyce had put me in that position in the first place.

Separately, I discussed a second event with Julie Bindel, who did talk with me directly, at least at first. I discussed the event with Tortoise, a conservative news organ, and was generally very moved and struck by the evenhandedness of their approach. Ironically, while I remained fairly confident about my ability to defeat Joyce, whose public appearances always strike me as vague and unpersuasive, I was much more anxious about Bindel, who is persuasive, thoughtful, funny, vigorous, and was an active feminist organizer years before Caitlyn Jenner appeared on the front cover of Vanity Fair. But for some reason, Joyce’s supporters seemed convinced I was terrified of her, and going to drop out—a belief I found variously funny and tactically disadvantageous to their side, because of course I didn’t want to drop out, and I couldn’t see any possible reason why I ever would.

Once UnHerd made their announcement, however, things became obvious. One group of comrades seemed to think, as people often do, that “debate” over trans civil rights is itself bad, and perhaps that it is connected to state crackdowns on trans people. I didn’t and don’t agree with that position: in my view, trans people need to be seizing as much camera time as possible, if we are to resist the extraordinarily rapid and far-reaching takeover of UK and US institutions by the so-called “gender critical” activists. But another group pointed out that UnHerd were a significantly more toxic platform than I had realized, pointing to obviously anti-Semitic content on the website, including articles lavishly praising the SS officer Ernst Jünger and the Nazi philosopher Carl Schmitt. I held a meeting with some members of the UK trans community who had expressed concern, and was persuaded by those who spoke there that it would have been a strategic mistake for me to align my own political interests with those of a far-right news organization that was actively working to mainstream fascist authors and ideas.

So, I publicly withdrew from the Joyce debate—ironically therefore proving her champions right, who still believe that I backed out from fear of Joyce’s apparent debating prowess. And understandably, the GC Twittersphere went bananas: Jesse Singal, of all people, called me a “huckster”; Joyce herself, apparently unconcerned about her commitment to a platform that celebrated Schmitt and Jünger, suggested that someone make her an actual blackshirt to celebrate her association with fascism.

There then came the matter of the second debate, to be hosted by Tortoise and featuring Julie Bindel. My understanding of the UK trans community perspective on that had been some kind of split: one group of activists urged greater participation in public events and advocacy of that kind, and another group argued that such debates would necessarily harm the most vulnerable members of the community, especially to the extent that even the question of Bindel’s or Joyce’s apparent transphobia would be misguided if it did not also explore the connections between GC ideology and white supremacy, anti-Semitism, and other aspects of far-right ideology. Nonetheless, my perspective at the end of that meeting was that the Bindel event would go ahead.

A couple of things happened yesterday (02/23) that changed that. One was that my mother was mobbed on Twitter by the same gender critical activists who have been hounding me for the last few years, with some going so far as to post pictures of my husband and I having consensual, loving, and mildly kinky sex that GC activists stole from a private instagram account some years ago. The hatred, misogyny, and rage that were being directed at my mother were simply too much to bear. I could not, and can not, ask her to bear the vicious attacks that I have become used to. The other was that I was, finally, terrified, in a way I just hadn’t been before. I no longer felt like I could understand exactly how my advocacy could be useful to the UK trans community, which after all remained in some parts now fairly skeptical of me after I had missed the Nazi stuff on the UnHerd website. But more, I realized that my UK tour would likely become a focal point for the same kind of people who would send my mother pictures of me and Danny having sex. I am scared of those people, and I am not prepared—in a literal sense, I am not prepared, cannot afford the preparations that would be necessary—to feel physically safe at a debate. My friends and supporters, who have been encouraging me to move ahead with this, finally encouraged me to call it a day for my own safety, including my emotional safety, which is frayed. I am a sober alcoholic, and I have felt my sobriety pressured the last few week or so. So I need to put that first—and I’ve not lost my sobriety, I’m happy to say.

So, for these reasons, I’ve canceled the Bindel event, with mixed feelings and genuine gratitude to Julie Bindel and to Tortoise for handling the matter so professionally—a marked difference from the attitude demonstrated by Helen Joyce and UnHerd. I’ve considered scaling back my UK events, or abandoning the UK leg of the tour entirely. I’ve decided not to do that, in the end, because I have written a book I’m proud of and I want to connect with those who have read PLEASE MISS. I hope those who are critical of my work and advocacy will be welcome at my events—some of that is up to my hosts, but I want to say here that for my part, I am available to speak with Julie Bindel, Helen Joyce, or anyone else at those events. I hope the book tour does not go by without at least some capacity to engage my opponents directly, even if in an ad hoc way.

The lesson for me is clear. For the last few years, I’ve tried to be a scholar, a public intellectual, and an author of creative prose. One of those has had to go, and it’s the second one. If I were willing to claim I’d been “canceled,” maybe I could salvage my reputation among the chattering classes, but I don’t want to do that, because it isn’t true. So again, I’m not going to be doing any more political engagements other than those to which I’ve already agreed. For others, I’m not so sure. I maintain that making political choices based on predictions about how our enemies will feel about them is misguided—the GCs are an unhinged and cruel group, and they will mock someone for expressing discomfort with Nazi ideology, and send revenge porn to a proud mother. So let’s not do anything just because we think it will make them feel bad. Let’s decide what our priorities are and commit to them instead. I’m not going to be part of those conversations moving forward, at least not in public, but I am always ready to take instructions and act with my comrades and siblings when it’s helpful to do so.

I remain quite sure that changing one’s entire hormonal system is not “cosmetic,” that lesbians do not need the state to define lesbianism for them, that feminism does not need and should not seek an apparently natural account of womanhood, and I am quite sure that women’s rights are not, have never been, and must never be, “sex-based.” I hope someone can tell me why I’m wrong without justifying those harassing my mother.

In solidarity,

Grace

Edit: The Daily Mail has picked up the story.
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I wonder if it's occurred to Mallory yet how those photos will follow her around forever.

I wonder if it's occurred to her that her parents can also receive the same photos. And that they may have read the disturbing sex scenes in her hanger-on's book where she's licking a flaccid penis while pressing her fingers on an inguinal canal she's forced to pretend is a vagina.

And that those scenes, too, will follow her around forever.

Her parents are probably praying for her. I wonder if she thinks about that. Her brother, too.
 
I wonder if it's occurred to Mallory yet how those photos will follow her around forever.

I wonder if it's occurred to her that her parents can also receive the same photos. And that they may have read the disturbing sex scenes in her hanger-on's book where she's licking a flaccid penis while pressing her fingers on an inguinal canal she's forced to pretend is a vagina.

And that those scenes, too, will follow her around forever.

Her parents are probably praying for her. I wonder if she thinks about that. Her brother, too.
By his logic, excerpting those sections with any comment other than "yas queen" is revenge porn. But it's all fictionalized, so plausible deniability, I suppose.
 
Joe has also just released an extensive explanation via another third-party mouthpiece. Sounds like the Bindel debate is out as well.
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I love how the only way Chicken Joe can get things out publicly now is by passing a note to a friend, just like Donald Trump and Roger Stone and Milo and all the other shunned shitstains whose fraternity he is now a member of. Keeping good company there, Chicken Joe!
 
Poor Joe, he's just the victim in all this.

He's lying so casually about those photos, I have to wonder how much of more of this doesn't quite line up with reality. And did he honestly expect Helen and Julie to do all the booking and arrangements themselves rather than getting a third party with experience in event management to handle it professionally.. like any normal person who took this seriously would? They're neither your friends nor your colleagues, so why in the world are they personally going to keep in touch with you? Joe, no one wanted to host this because the debate is toxic, with your side ready to spew death threats and harassment at a moment's notice, and because it was all but certain you were going to back out.

Even knowing you were going to fall apart under the slightest pressure, I wanted to see some attempt at defending ideas that crumble once you think about them for more than a minute. You know, like the idea that 13 year olds are getting double mastectomies for cancers that happen most often in women older than 40 because they develop differently than lymphomas. Or that children aren't innocent in what you seem to imply is a sexual manner. Or that the world is fine with just letting murderrape happen willy nilly because murderrape is somehow essential to the process of healing. Surely the great academic who rubs shoulders with Nobel laureates can explain this to an idiot fruit farmer?

MATI and all. I shouldn't have gotten my hopes up, but I really was looking foreword to this.
 
Joe's claim that Unherd is a fascist organization is perhaps his most deranged lie yet.

Here's the article he's referring to as evidence. It's quite interesting and well worth a read.

Junger was not an SS officer, as Joe claims. He provided assistance to the French Resistance. Some selections from the article:

Jünger publicly rejected the regime’s advances and came under suspicion as a result, his house searched by the Gestapo and the threat of persecution always hanging over him. A central figure in Germany’s interwar Conservative Revolution, Jünger, who stated he “hated democracy like the plague”, had come to despise the Nazi regime at least as much.
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A fêted intellectual, and a lifelong francophile, he befriended the city’s cultural elite, socialising with Cocteau and Picasso as well as the collaborationist French leadership and literary figures such as the anti-semitic novelist Céline, a monster who “spoke of his consternation, his astonishment, at the fact that we soldiers were not shooting, hanging, and exterminating the Jews — astonishment that anyone who had a bayonet was not making unrestrained use of it”. For Jünger, Céline represented the very worst type of radical intellectual: “People with such natures could be recognised earlier, in eras when faith could still be tested. Nowadays they hide under the cloak of ideas.”

While listening to Céline’s ravings about Jews with polite horror, Jünger was embroiled in an affair with Sophie Ravoux, a German-Jewish doctor, and helping to conceal other Jews in hiding, as well as warning the French resistance about imminent deportations. He records the first reports of mass executions in the east, shared among the army leadership, initially with disbelief and then with horror, disgust and shame.


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By 1944 Jünger floated on the fringes of two army plots against Hitler, without ever committing himself. He had — correctly as it turns out — no faith in the capacity of the generals around him to bring their task to successful fruition. Flirting with the French and German resistance movements just as he served the regime he despised, Jünger lived his concept of the “anarch”, the internal exile who conforms outwardly to the spirit of the times while fostering his own inward, secret rebellion. As Cocteau later quipped, “Some people had dirty hands, some had clean hands, but Jünger had no hands.”

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At the height of the war, while the Holocaust was a marginal concern of the Allies, Jünger would return again and again to “these atrocities perpetrated against the Jews, which enrage the cosmos against us”.

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Eventually, Jünger’s eldest son, little Ernstel, is arrested by the Nazi regime for making defeatist comments about the war to his fellow sailors. He is later assigned to the Italian front on a dangerous anti-partisan mission. There, he was killed by a bullet to the head beneath Carrara’s marble cliffs; his father would never be certain he was not secretly executed by the SS.

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Ordered back to Germany after the failure of the Stauffenberg plot, his superiors hanging from meathooks, he lived under constant threat of arrest and execution like the survivors of his elite Paris circle


As usual, Joe assumes his audience will accept anything he says at face value, without bothering to look up the Unherd article, or even Junger's Wikipedia page.
 
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