Fallout series

[Snekposter]

It will never be quite as annoying as Point Lookout having mega mutated hillbillies that fight better than power armored soldiers while using simple hunting weapons. I just personally found the forced circumstances of Dead Money to be more annoying than immersive.

Ah, that Hillbilly Strength unstoppable damage per-hit... and they get shotguns that apply it every pellet.

 

[The handsome tard]

It will never be quite as annoying as Point Lookout having mega mutated hillbillies that fight better than power armored soldiers while using simple hunting weapons. I just personally found the forced circumstances of Dead Money to be more annoying than immersive.

You underestimate the power of nuclear tard strength

 

[King Ghidorah]

Is heavy handed a good pick for melee/unarmed in new vegas or are critics more important overall I know it's a good pick if you use chainsaw/thermic lance type weapons

 

[The handsome tard]

Just thought of this joke, thought to share it so people can call it lame

Fallout Protagonist: misses in vats Call an ambulance, call an ambulance!

Mysterious Stranger: appears but not for him!

 

[Vault Boy]

Is heavy handed a good pick for melee/unarmed in new vegas or are critics more important overall I know it's a good pick if you use chainsaw/thermic lance type weapons

I'm forgoing HH in favor of a critical build for chainsaws, and the thing gets so many criticals that it melts everything.

 

[Snekposter]

I'm forgoing HH in favor of a critical build for chainsaws, and the thing gets so many criticals that it melts everything.

And if you use JIP LN the DT/DR bypass actually functions properly. Groovy.

 

[Secret Asshole]

So I was thinking about modding Fallout 4, since I have it but never made it. I know there are overhauls, but they seem to be incompatible or have to have a ton of other shit patched. Is it worth it?

 

[HeyYou]

So I was thinking about modding Fallout 4, since I have it but never made it. I know there are overhauls, but they seem to be incompatible or have to have a ton of other shit patched. Is it worth it?

Fallout 4 is better if you give up trying to make it a better RPG and just download cool gun mods to shoot raiders with.

 

[The handsome tard]

Apparently its implied in F4 that the BOS have killed Harold for being a mutant that is "poisoning the earth" with his "mutant seeds" (when he was actually bringing some natural green back to the wasteland)


Do you honestly need a better reason to destroy the Pryden and everyone inside and under it?

 

[Pond Scum]

Apparently its implied in F4 that the BOS have killed Harold for being a mutant that is "poisoning the earth" with his "mutant seeds" (when he was actually bringing some natural green back to the wasteland)


Do you honestly need a better reason to destroy the Pryden and everyone inside and under it?

Well, Harold may have wanted them to... unless they bombed/burned the shit out of him.

 

[Conan]

Apparently its implied in F4 that the BOS have killed Harold for being a mutant that is "poisoning the earth" with his "mutant seeds" (when he was actually bringing some natural green back to the wasteland)


Do you honestly need a better reason to destroy the Pryden and everyone inside and under it?

With 3000 hours in F4, this is news to me. Did a character say this or was it in one of the countless seemingly important things written in terminals that have zero bearing on the story that Emil is so fond of writing.

 

[The handsome tard]

Well, Harold may have wanted them to... unless they bombed/burned the shit out of him.

Assuming Harold would still be alive by 2287, he probably came to terms with his condition and the description said "planting mutant seeds" which implied his ending where his growth is expanded into the Capital wasteland is canon.

And lets face it, knowing the BOS, they probably wouldnt care for Harold's pleas for them to use anything but fire.

 

[Ruin]

I think Bethesda are slowly re writing the Brotherhood to replace the Enclave in future games. They seem to get less morally gray and more extreme and comically genocidal with each entry.

 

[The Seaman]

Did you guys forget that the BOS in one of the endings start a fucking technological dark age because of someone high up died? It isn't that far off from what happened to Sarah considering the Eastern BOS was far more friendly in 3 than the one in the classics. But even in the classics the way they behave really differently depending of the part of the country and time with Tactics Brotherhood taking outsiders and going through training without that much of a hassle while the Vault Dweller had to go through the fucking Glow to get power armor.

 

[Mola Ram]

while the Vault Dweller had to go through the fucking Glow to get power armor.

Leave us not forget that this was a snipe hunt that they fully expected would lead to you dying from massive radiation poisoning if you were stupid enough to do it. The Brotherhood were really only unvarnished good guys in FO3, and even there you had the Outcasts splitting off because they'd strayed so far from their purpose.

 

[Snekposter]

Leave us not forget that this was a snipe hunt that they fully expected would lead to you dying from massive radiation poisoning if you were stupid enough to do it. The Brotherhood were really only unvarnished good guys in FO3, and even there you had the Outcasts splitting off because they'd strayed so far from their purpose.

Na. By FO2 the BoS had mellowed out a bit. Keep in mind they let the Chosen One just carry out the entire contents of their various safehouses out of thanks for the Vault Dweller, or something like that. Its not until the NCR starts threatening their monopoly on advanced tech that things turn sour in the West.

 

[Mola Ram]

Na. By FO2 the BoS had mellowed out a bit. Keep in mind they let the Chosen One just carry out the entire contents of their various safehouses out of thanks for the Vault Dweller, or something like that. Its not until the NCR starts threatening their monopoly on advanced tech that things turn sour in the West.

Point taken, but by FO2 their day had passed. There wasn't much left of them and the Enclave surpassed their tech. Really, they're such a small factor in 2 that I always suspected that Black Isles original intention was to phase them out by 3.

 

[wopirish]

Point taken, but by FO2 their day had passed. There wasn't much left of them and the Enclave surpassed their tech. Really, they're such a small factor in 2 that I always suspected that Black Isles original intention was to phase them out by 3.

I always saw it as an eventually, possibly nonconsensual, absorbtion into the NCR as advanced shock troopers/techinicians. Like the original 3 would have had some quests/lore involving the absorbtion like the NCR rangers.

 

[Snekposter]

I always saw it as an eventually, possibly nonconsensual, absorbtion into the NCR as advanced shock troopers/techinicians. Like the original 3 would have had some quests/lore involving the absorbtion like the NCR rangers.

My take as well. They're losing their war against the NCR since only one of them has the manpower to spare. And considering the NCR were the ones who took down Navarro... what are the odds they Operation Paperclip'd as many of the techs and scientists there as they could? Something tells me they'd be far less idealistic in those affairs than Maxson was. Only a matter of time until they stop deploying salvaged PA and start deploying actual PA.

 

[The handsome tard]

I think the problem lies with ultimately the indecisive nature of how the BOS is perceived by the franchise. Because we can blame Bethesda how much we want for making the BOS the "center" but lets not pretend that this was already starting with Fallout Tactics and Fallout Brotherhood of Steel...I mean, people can deny it but Interplay made those, no Bethesda to blame.

Interplay clearly wanted the BOS to be more than just a faction ultimately. Given how they were having the BOS in other chapters where they could prosper better than back in California does show that Interplay was also heading to the direction Bethesda set the BOS in.

I will always be in the camp that says that Lyons was doing the smart thing by adapting the BOS into something else because their original doctrine could only take them so far until they basically enter at war with the rest of the world. F4's BOS seem almost like a course correction from Bethesda because they were tired of people complaining "not my BOS" constantly.

Well, the BOS is now closer to how they were in the originals, except they have unmatched power, and its god damn awful for everyone. Again, there is almost a sense of spite on how the BOS is now...but then again, it could be just Bethesda doing a "be careful what you wish for" type of thing. Fans wanted old school BOS and they got it.

I think Bethesda are slowly re writing the Brotherhood to replace the Enclave in future games. They seem to get less morally gray and more extreme and comically genocidal with each entry.

Part of me wants to believe that this is maybe intentional. Kind like commies fighting Nazis even tho they turn out to be even worse than nazis in the long term.

An institution like the BOS with a lot of power and little adaptability will always lead to evil sooner or later. Especially when you can just shout "ad victoriam" to reassure your guilty mind that you are a noble knight and not a techno-fascist raider.