Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Mukhrani]

I genuinely don't understand why Russia is doing this. What do they have to gain? What does Ukraine have that they want? Putin seems like too smart of a guy to just shell a country because he can. What's the real motivation for all this?

1. Buffer space. You can garrote the Russian state by seizing the flat open terrain north of the Caucasus that stretches between the Black and Caspian seas. The Nazis tried to do this in WWII and were pushed back at Stalingrad at great cost. The launching point of this maneuver is in eastern Ukraine. By pushing any Western forces to the Dniepr they have a much more defensible position.

2. The Crimea. Russia needs to hold it as its Black Sea Fleet is based in Sebastopol. This includes securing access to fresh water, which this will gain them.

3. The Black Sea. It contains one of Russia's major fleets, can't be touched by the US due to the Montreux Convention, and contains pretty large recently discovered natural gas reserves. If Turkey finishes its canal it can circumvent the Montreux Convention and give the US Navy access to the Black Sea. By seizing the Black Sea coast of Ukraine now, while the Convention is still in force, it allows Russia to invade with naval and air superiority, and prevents Ukraine from tapping the gas reserves and becoming a competitor when it comes to gas exports. It also gives them access to Russian-aligned separatists in Transnistria.

4. Bloody nose for the West. Our FP apparatus is staffed by literal retards who larp as West Wing characters. Russia has been warning us for decades to stop expanding NATO. They fucked up Georgia to drive this point home, and now they're going to fuck up Ukraine and hope that we finally learn that they see it as an act of aggression. The idea the Ukraine is entitled to determine its own foreign policy irrespective of any balance of power calculus is a retarded fairy tale that the West must be forced to abandon.

 

[Protistology]

Childless women, maybe.

Some of us have sons. Our skin in the game is our flesh and blood; the gold stars in the windows are not something we want to bring back.

lol fuck off

 

[LaxerBRO]

I present the architect of this entire mess:

 

[thisighuf]

Russian cruise missile falling on Kiev

 

[The Big O]

I am super excited for the state of union. It's going to be the chef's kiss.

Oh my god, wow. This is yet another parallel to Biden's abominable failure with Afghanistan: he tried to pull our troops out to get asspats on September 11th of last year, and it was lost well before that point. And now we watch as Ukraine gets dabbed on by Putin a mere week before Biden is to have a State of the Union address... all while a trucker convoy is forming to disrupt it in D.C. by then.

Clown World has reached peak honk.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

Don't childless women (young I mean) have the potential to have children though? lol
It's all retarded tho, no one in north america should be drafted to fight overseas wars anymore, not our problem

Childless women, maybe.

Some of us have sons. Our skin in the game is our flesh and blood; the gold stars in the windows are not something we want to bring back.

Like I said earlier....send in the Biden voters, male or female. Send in all the troons who cried when Drumpf banned transgenders from the military.

 

[Chandelier]

"Lmao I don't care about this conflict"

You have no idea what this could turn into. Joe Biden is a demented career politician with a lot of shady dealings in Ukraine...and he's just a puppet controlled by other retards. This could be what sets off Great Depression 2.0. We could be sending our sons and daughters off to fight another forevermore because Blackrock and 5+ years of "MUH RUSSIAA!!!" brainwashing of Dem voters.

WE DON'T KNOW.

That's already happening, bud. While BlueAnon rah rahs about America being the world's police and democracy, Russia and Belarus, two of the top three producers of potassium chloride, which is needed for fertilizer, will not be exporting it. This will cause crop failure EVERYWHERE. And China just joined in.

BlackRock won't be stopped; they'll just keep buying up homes and farm equipment and everything you can imagine coupled with the doubling of that sweet $30 trillion debt.

Americans might not want to find. But Congress may well force them to. We'll see. They're going to have to hammer it in before midterms; God knows this is another Iraq.

I remember the Democrats promoting kids in Ukraine training with fully automatic rifles to kill Russians.

While trying to take away 2nd amendment rights and still are. Fuck them and time for the GOP and red counties across America to ignore the NFA. Hell ignore all those bullshit state laws against guns as well in places like California and New York.

They want you to die on foreign soil, while you get replaced by foreigners on your own soil. That is their end game. They want you dead and gone so they can make a quick buck.

I genuinely don't understand why Russia is doing this. What do they have to gain? What does Ukraine have that they want? Putin seems like too smart of a guy to just shell a country because he can. What's the real motivation for all this?

Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus are all genetically the same people. Historically they were all one nation, with the Kievan Rus being the most dominant culture. They are all Slavic, all descendants of the Steppe horse lords that introduced chariots to the wide world. The Kievan Rus do have some Scandinavian heritage with Rurik, its founder, either having a Swedish mother or fully Scandinavian parents, and he himself is a descendant of Rollo. All share the same Orthodox Christianity, almost the same language, almost the same culture. Under the USSR, which was an extension of the Tsar's empire, they were all one nation. Putin wants to unite them all and he did it by recognizing the Republics. Eventually, and as we're seeing in real time, he hopes to get the Ukrainians on his side.

The US can never achieve this as it is not remotely homogeneous, thanks to the 1965 immigration act. China will do the same to Taiwan, as Taiwan has a large Han population. This is biopolitics.

Putin wants a Greater Russia; or a one Slavic homeland again. Crimea voted to rejoin Russia and Belarus was effectively bought out by Russia in the 90s. It was either Russia or American-led NATO. And if Ukrainian forces are giving up, this will be over within a week. Naturally, there will be sanctions and condemnation and very likely boots on the ground from NATO - but it isn't going to end like Yugoslavia or Serbia.

Moldova and Serbia share similar stock and they might move closer to Russia one day.

 

[Looney Troons]

If Ukraine surrenders tomorrow on Chris Chan's 40th Birthday can Null mint new silver coins with Putin wearing his iconic striped shirt?

@Null,

Seems like the best way to celebrate Christian Love Day.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Gonna be interesting to see years ahead and holding. Iraq was a fucking nightmare, but a bunch of potato Slav niggers who got nothing and getting labeled as Nazis? Yikes

 

[WinchesterPremium]

I don't give a fuck about Ukraine. This is entirely Biden's fault by agitating Russia by wanting Ukraine to join NATO and ignoring Russia's historical insecurity about defending its borders. Nobody gives a shit about Ukraine or standing up to Russia, an entirely manufactured enemy. Which the West Drove right into a Russian-Sino alliance. This is the direct action of the United States and the West trying to be moral superiors and needing manufactured enemies to distract from terrible domestic conditions.

Biden was and is weak, which is why Putin knew he could do this. A major international incident is occurring over a supposed 'major' enemy and Biden will address it 'tomorrow'. The leader of the United States army has dementia and can't operate after nap time. lol if anyone thinks this will lead to WWIII. The United States currently has no active executive branch, meaning the military cannot act. We haven't had a functioning executive since Biden was fucking elected. He shits himself and mumbles and everyone tries to work around him. The only reason he hasn't been 25th'd out is Harris is a fucking disaster.

Massive inflation, $5 gas, awful rent, increasing debt, lack of wages, trillions stolen from the population during the pandemic....holy shit, who cares? This was entirely done to prop up Biden's admin by making him look 'tough' but instead he goes to bed as soon as it starts. His weakness will be incredibly obvious and embolden all of our enemies. We have no commander-in-chief and a possible multi-nation invasion happening right the fuck now. Everyone is watching, its a fucking EMBARASSMENT. Biden is not coherent enough to be in charge.

NATO won't do fucking shit. Who has the proper army to do anything besides the US? Germany? Fucking lol. France possibly, maybe the Baltics, but they all fucking hate each other and I don't see them running in to save Ukraine. Ukraine was a very obvious bluff by Biden to 'look tough' and 'competent' at an administration that is completely unpopular and is a governing disaster. Except there's absolutely no nationalism and no desire to go to war with Russia, just like there was no desire to go to war with Syria under Obama. The tolerance of the American people to play 'world police' has grown very, very thin.

Frankly, I don't care. The domestic agenda is the most important and everyone is getting fucked. I have no interest in concerning myself with a problem a dementia patient created in order to 'look tough'. Its incredibly pathetic, with Biden drooling all over himself unable to do a fucking thing. Without the Commander in Chief, nothing happens.

What do you think he is going to do lol

He already promised he isn't going to send troops or do anything with the actual military and it seems like you don't want him to.

Do you think the stern warning and sanctions need to happen now instead of tomorrow?

 

[Vince McMahon]

You dropped this lol
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Hey, you're a cunt and I hope you don't get to experience what people across my country are experiencing. Hope you live a long fruitful life though.

 

[Niggernerd]

Kill yourself, faggot.

Lmao calm down fat

Putins doing it as Cwcs birthday comes up. He really wants his waifu to merge into existence.

 

[Drain Todger]

"It will be the Seven-Hour War all over again. Except this time we won't last seven minutes."

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[Only A Retard Sometimes]

UKRAINE HAS TAKEN CONTROL OF KIEV AIRPORT BACK FROM THE RUSSIANS

https://twitter.com/InfoResist/status/1496706675230842889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

Here's the thread on /pol. Funky military music, endless posts and retards

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/362743306

I have no doubt /pol/ is a raging hot mess right now. I'm going to bed soon, if I can even sleep...

 

[verissimus]

If true, they definitely learned from Armenia.

What's this a reference to?

 

[RainwaterDrop]

I think I'm going to stop following the news for the night and relax and do other stuff before going to bed. This doesn't directly affect me and there's too much fog of war to sort out what's real and what's propaganda over the internet. One way or another, Ukraine will still be there tomorrow, I can find out if the war's still going on then. I wish ya'll luck sorting it all out in the meantime.

Same, otherwise I'm getting too anxious to watch out for whatever the fuck is going to happen. Russkies are going to flood the world with shit right now so the midiatic chaos becomes even worse than usual, I'm taking a breather and relaxing for tonight lol!

 

[SCSI]

Sunrise in Kharkiv.

 

[Herty]

Holy fuck, it really was the Turks:

 

[Breadbassket]

Putin has thrown down the gauntlet and now the world awaits for a true response from Biden in the hours to come. One can only hope his handlers and speech writers can handle the pressure.