Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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As an American, it has really pissed off and even humiliated me to see this weasel-faced totalitarian cunt Putin take every single President from Dubya like a carny taking a rube. He took Dubya like a rube, then he took Obama, then he took Trump, now he's taking Biden.

Why the fuck can't we have some cold-hearted realpolitik son-of-a-bitch like Putin but American? I mean we got Kissinger but he's going to die and go to Hell any day now.

This whole ridiculous kabuki dance has been nice. Putin made it clear he was planning to invade, sat around a bit taking in the responses from the world to doing this, then decided whether the probable benefits of doing it, weighed against the costs of the angriest of denunciations, made it still profitable to do it.

Then he did it.

We need leaders capable of making decisions here.
 
Volume three is gonna be fucking KINO.
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No, not really. The Ukraine is a small country that primarily exists on the good graces of other countries. They arent able to project their will by themselves, as is being proven right now with Russia. Harsh reality of geopolitics.
After the USSR collapsed they were actually the third largest nuclear power just by virtue of how many soviet warheads were left on their soil. They gave them up as part of an agreement that their sovereignty be protected in absence of nuclear deterrence. I'm sure they regret that now. Good fucking luck denuclearizing any other nation after this.
 
germoids are puppets, vassals, bootlickers of france+uk+usa.
it is a mistake to think that post-1945 germany has any real agency of its own. it is a vassal state of the western alliance in all but name.
True, but while not puppets, France, the UK and the rest of western Europe are American vassals too.
 
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Uhhh excuse me sweety WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE BIDEN TO DO!!!???? Have a press conference EARLY IN THE MORNING YOU RETARDED TRUMPCHUD?
HE'S TRYING HIS BEST OKAY!? 5D CHESS! WHAT COULD HE POSSIBLY DO!? If Biden doesn't get his mid-morning nappy wappy he gets really cranky in the afternoon, and we need at least twenty minutes to clean the shit out of his diaper before he appears on television.
 
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Did Cube get a choice in having Soviet weapons? Go ahead and virtue signal "international sovereignty" but no one cares when they feel threatened.
Is something wrong with your hearing? Literally nobody said "I wonder what a child molesting freak thinks about this turn of events." So kill yourself. Like jump into a trash compactor or something. The opinions of pedophiles do not add anything.
 
As an American, it has really pissed off and even humiliated me to see this weasel-faced totalitarian cunt Putin take every single President from Dubya like a carny taking a rube. He took Dubya like a rube, then he took Obama, then he took Trump, now he's taking Biden.

Why the fuck can't we have some cold-hearted realpolitik son-of-a-bitch like Putin but American? I mean we got Kissinger but he's going to die and go to Hell any day now.

This whole ridiculous kabuki dance has been nice. Putin made it clear he was planning to invade, sat around a bit taking in the responses from the world to doing this, then decided whether the probable benefits of doing it, weighed against the costs of the angriest of denunciations, made it still profitable to do it.

Then he did it.

We need leaders capable of making decisions here.
How did he take Trump again?
 
I guess Ukraine doesn't get a choice in this at all?

Fucking retard. Republicans should unironically kill themselves en masse.
NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THERE'S NO AGENCY, IT'S ALL GLOBOHOMO'S PLAN AND THEY HAVE TO LIVE IN A SHITHOLE AND DO NOTHING ABOUT IT ELSE DADDY PUTIN GETS ANGRY
 
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Well this seems to confirm installing a puppet government is the Russian goal:
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To be honest it doesn't seem like a sustainable long term solution. Wrecking their industry, infrastructure and agriculture back to the stone age then leaving back to those new independent republics would be the best play. Would be easier than governing a population that dislike you and would make Ukraine a nonfactor for a long time.
 
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Is this a desperate effort to motivate a NATO counterattack? Why would the Russians want Chernobyl? There's nothing there but a radioactive disaster zone.
 
Russia was fine allowing Ukraine to exist as an independent nation as long as it remained neutral and demilitarized i.e. the status quo from the end of the cold war through the Trump years.
Asking for weapons and training from NATO is a sign of aggression and essentially the beginning steps of NATO integration. It was a very dumb decision.
It was retarded, but also understandable as from their perspective they likely bought into the sales pitch of Obama and Biden's people who acted like they'd have Ukraine's back. Doesn't help that most English language news media supported the fantasy that Biden was super competent and was going to "stand up to Putin".
 
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Lot's of anti war protests going on in Russia right now. Should we put the inevitable police crackdown videos on this thread?View attachment 3013497
I've been seeing this from mostly hippie cities like Moscow and St. Petersburg. Typically they come out, Russian cops beat the shit out of them, and they go back inside. Seems to work for the most part.
 
Well this seems to confirm installing a puppet government is the Russian goal:
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I'd need more than a tweet from the French with no article or source besides "US defense official" to consider that an actual objective from Russia, especially when they'd need to take over the whole country to make that a non-negotiable. Which is something I really don't think is the goal. It doesn't make sense to me to commit to something like that instead of a smash and grab to secure territory that governments will bitch about but not actually think it worth intervening directly over.
 
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