Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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As an American, it has really pissed off and even humiliated me to see this weasel-faced totalitarian cunt Putin take every single President from Dubya like a carny taking a rube. He took Dubya like a rube, then he took Obama, then he took Trump, now he's taking Biden.

Why the fuck can't we have some cold-hearted realpolitik son-of-a-bitch like Putin but American? I mean we got Kissinger but he's going to die and go to Hell any day now.

This whole ridiculous kabuki dance has been nice. Putin made it clear he was planning to invade, sat around a bit taking in the responses from the world to doing this, then decided whether the probable benefits of doing it, weighed against the costs of the angriest of denunciations, made it still profitable to do it.

Then he did it.

We need leaders capable of making decisions here.

So you want to US to send military troops into Ukraine and create a new Vietnam war all soo you be an ignorant patriotard who says "AMERICA FUCK YA, WORLD POLICE!"
 
"You were supposed to be our allies, you maniac!.... You know we'll retaliate...."

"oh, don't be so sure Mr. President..."


 
Is this a desperate effort to motivate a NATO counterattack? Why would the Russians want Chernobyl? There's nothing there but a radioactive disaster zone.
It's surprisingly well fortified. If left unsecured it can be made into a fairly strong holdout location for the Ukrainians. They probably took the workers there hostage with the condition of "Just don't let the damn place blow up, we just want to secure the location not turn this country into a nuclear wasteland".
 
It was retarded, but also understandable as from their perspective they likely bought into the sales pitch of Obama and Biden's people who acted like they'd have Ukraine's back. Doesn't help that most English language news media supported the fantasy that Biden was super competent and was going to "stand up to Putin".
Ukraine is the money laundering center for the West. They aren't innocent here, it wasn't understandable for them to do what they did. It was dumb. Granted Western powers bought and paid for said leadership that allows them to do what they do but the smart option would have been to be like Switzerland. Be neutral.
 
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Uhhh excuse me sweety WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE BIDEN TO DO!!!???? Have a press conference EARLY IN THE MORNING YOU RETARDED TRUMPCHUD?

He could resign. It gives the US an excuse not to get involved ("muh domestic upheaval"), lets the Ukrainians down with a bit of saving face, and gives Russia the time it needs to secure things without a bloodbath. Pick one of any number of legitimate real life health problems as an excuse, and abdicate.

(It also gives his party a scapegoat for all the terrible ideas of the last year, and for inflation, and for the terrible job that Yas Kween Kamala will inevitably botch.)
 
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Russia claiming Chernobyl is a net positive for the world. Ukraine couldn't afford to maintain it or clean it up. When the Soviet Union split up, Ukraine got financially fucked when they ended up with the rubble. Russia was also one of the countries that skirted their responsibility to getting the new dome put up. At least now there's someone in charge of it with a little bit of money and motivation for keeping it under control.
 
He could resign. It gives the US an excuse not to get involved ("muh domestic upheaval"), lets the Ukrainians down with a bit of saving face, and gives Russia the time it needs to secure things without a bloodbath. Pick one of any number of legitimate real life health problems as an excuse, and abdicate.

(It also gives his party a scapegoat for all the terrible ideas of the last year, and for inflation, and for the terrible job that Yas Kween Kamala will inevitably botch.)
Actually a pretty good idea for the Dems. They won't do it and they wouldn't be able to execute but it would be a good strategy to employ.
 
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So you want to US to send military troops into Ukraine and create a new Vietnam war all soo you be an ignorant patriotard who says "AMERICA FUCK YA, WORLD POLICE!"
No, and it's very indicative of your retarded nature that you'd even think I'd think something that stupid. Putin rationally calculated we aren't doing that, and by definition, if we aren't, then NATO isn't either.
How did he take Trump again?
You could literally watch Trump getting fucked in the ass by Putin and then deepthroating him until he hilted and still think he's the alpha in that relationship. So there's literally no point even discussing it. If you can't see it, you won't.
 
We need leaders capable of making decisions here.
Whats the decision you want?
The ones on the board are:
1) More sanctions, turn Russia into a pariah (what all leaders would do)
2) Completely ignore, let Russia do what it wants, no sanctions, no nothing
3) Direct involvement, boots on ground escalation to ww3

Keep in mind, only 1 out of 4 americans want to have a 'major involvement' in the war and most of those are boomers who wouldn't get drafted and do any fighting.
 
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