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Scuttle said:
Yup. There isn't another JP company I can think of that hasn't had SOME level of weird controversy. Maybe 774 are clean? I'm not sure. Niji, VSPO, VOMS, ProPro, and even Holostars (with Kaoru's stealth termination) sure as hell aren't.

The problem EOPs have, and Holo fans in general, is that pretty much all of their members are blockbuster names. Not a single person can have some sort of issue without it being a major event; and even happy, natural graduations will feel like a killing blow to fans.

At the very least, I don't think THAT level of symbiotic empathy exists in other companies, so if a person was to decide that now was an appropriate time to look towards other companies for reasons revolving around attachment, then I wouldn't necessarily blame them. The people who take every piece of news like this to heart are probably going to feel like it's more trouble than it's worth. Some people in this very thread have said that X or Y member graduating is a death knell for the hobby.
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At the end of the day, vtubing is still an entertainment industry, which is reliant on people with rare talents who may or may not be level-headed or reliable but are still the indispensable product being sold. Idols, actors, musicians, artists, all constant drama factories that create an entire massive media ecosystem just to chronicle all the drama. This sort of thing is to some degree expected and inevitable.
 
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I'm going to miss the Necromancer but with all that's going on it's hard not for the heart to just feel cold.

All I'll say is that I doubt this is going to be the only incident that's going to happen this year.
We almost had it with the reaper situation a couple of months ago but it was later played for laughs but eventually something like this is going to pop up or somebody's going to do until one of the talents past we're going to be dealing with this crap storm again.
 
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Nene's Husband said:
Calli is awkward as fuck, some people like that, other people like me find her cringy as hell, i like more genki type people. Amelia i just find more boring than anything, but to each their own.
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Huh. Well, Calli can be quite genki at times, and that makes for some of her best content IMO. Her recent Arceus stream and the HoloDeath Minecraft collab stream are good examples. Ideally she'd keep that same energy throughout all her streams, but oh well.

Golurk Learned Fly said:
There is, the actual translation is "I want everyone in this gentle world to understand.", or perhaps "I want all the kind people of the world to understand."
In either case she's definitely not calling herself kind.
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"I know your kind, that's why I'm kind"
 
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Vtuber bad end

All JP companies fall due to faggy corpo drama, all VoDs and traces of their existance are scrubbed clean
The only ones remaning are twitter-onlys with pronouns in bio
The new meta is to accuse everyone else of grooming they did or didnt commit
there are no idol strims, those are verboten and out of meta
v-chuubas die within two months due to a lack of content


Glory to

Arstotzka​

 
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Golurk Learned Fly said:

For what the word of an indie vtuber is worth. Is he friends with one of the EN girls?
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It's basically the same take that people have been posting all day, eg. Rushia panicked and overshared information to 3rd parties (like Korekore) in order to try and disprove the allegations.

IMO it's probably understating the issue - I don't think I've seen a single piece of information in the past 2 weeks that would warrant this kind of response from Cover. I think the key part of their statement was "it has been apparent for some time that she has been distributing false information to third parties..." - which seems to imply that while investigating the current drama, they looked through her DMs and found a lot more than just mafumafu sneed posts. It would also explain the seemingly cold reactions from some of the other Hololive girls.
 
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I think Kiara cancelling the Holotori collab might have more to due with Russia then it does with Rushia. Austria has conscription (even if it is only for 6 months after you turn 18) so it's quite possible she's worried about things. She's also the closest out of all the Holomembers to what's going on. Same with the other HoloEN members really. The JP ones didn't grow up in the shadow of the cold war, so while Russia hasn't been the bogeyman it was during the 70's and 80's big bad Russia is still a part of our collective unconscious.

So yeah, I think some of the tweets that HoloEN has put out are more to do with Russia than with Rushia.

Except for Mori's cause she's just a dramaqueen.
 
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Caxxx said:
Postponed, but that is the real worst part of all this, yeah.
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For completely unrelated reasons looks like. Get well soon, duck!
 
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Nolan Crush said:
NotRushia's new YT is popping off. 160k+ subs in 9 hrs.
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Her twitter pulling a lot too. 84k+ in 9 hrs.
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This more explosive growth than even Holo gens get. This fandom is very supportive, you love to see it
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Now that she doesn't have to pretend to GFE, she can give me the real GFE! - idiots probably

LullerDerbyRollin said:
@Scuttle Instead of being crazy, why do you not tell me two NijiEN are streaming Observation Duty? Dammit, I need to rethink relying on you.

Link for everyone else https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wag7kar17tc
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Scuttle lets the thread down once again.
 
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Nolan Crush said:
NotRushia's new YT is popping off. 160k+ subs in 9 hrs.
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Her twitter pulling a lot too. 84k+ in 9 hrs.
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This more explosive growth than even Holo gens get. This fandom is very supportive, you love to see it
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Same happened for Kson, too. This is literally the strat.

Now she can get 65% of the SCs minus tax rather than 35% minus tax and not have to deal with shitty game permissions. V-Tuber corporations are the ultimate stopgap for aspiring streamers.
 
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St Germaine said:
I think Kiara cancelling the Holotori collab might have more to due with Russia then it does with Rushia. Austria has conscription (even if it is only for 6 months after you turn 18) so it's quite possible she's worried about things. She's also the closest out of all the Holomembers to what's going on. Same with the other HoloEN members really. The JP ones didn't grow up in the shadow of the cold war, so while Russia hasn't been the bogeyman it was during the 70's and 80's big bad Russia is still a part of our collective unconscious.

So yeah, I think some of the tweets that HoloEN has put out are more to do with Russia than with Rushia.

Except for Mori's cause she's just a dramaqueen.
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Honestly, it's a pretty low morale day for the world, not just the Holosphere. I wouldn't blame anyone for taking a day off when shit's just kinda bleak right now.
 
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Man, I can't believe Rikkun called Putin to start the war in order to distract people from Uki accidentally launching a public test stream, then called Yagoo in for a favor after realizing people will care about that more. This is so unepic.
Sunflower Samurai said:
Lmao was about to say, the EOPs are going fucking full tismo on the cover hate, some retards saying "lmao time to go to Nijisanjieee" (ignoring all the shit that has happend there becasue they're EOPs and the poop shit cum haha ENs dont have much drama yet)
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I don't really understand that sort of sentiment. Why do they have to "go to Nijisanji", or "switch teams"? Just give a bunch a quick look, Holo, Niji, VOMS, indies, etc., then just watch whoever you like watching, the fuck's wrong with them? Is old Baz gonna shank them and call them a minger for daring to watch someone from Souf FC? Tribalism for wrestling companies and what not is one thing, but the same for faceless boomers controlling Vtuber companies feels like a whole different level of bizarre.
 
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Azchan said:
Seems like normal. People first come out with the emotional statement lashing out and blaming everyone and everything except the talent. Later when more information comes out people start making more rational comments on it.
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Told ya.



Calli also had some time to cool down and wants to play Elden Ring.
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