Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[b0x]

Tucker Carlson is a deep state shill. He will not be spared a small cell in Gitmo.

And the rest of the media? Fair and balanced?

 

[DicksOutForKiwigglers]

So this retard went out and danced around because he's an American activist in another country causing shit?

I hope he fucking screamed while he bled out from the mine.

Faggot.

I like you (usually) but this ain't it.

 

[theshitposter]

I know you fags are jealous of his manbun but vaush has been making live stream over the issue for a week

 

[Meat Target]

I just wanna legally abuse and be mean to bugmen. Is that too much to ask?

 

[AGPinochet]

Remember guys, Causalty figures in terms of vehicles are still being updated from Nagorno-Karabakh II so we may not know the actual real figures for some time.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

Is it? I know with Russia the demographic decline, plus the inevitable power vacuum that will form when Putin dies, give it a likely expiration date, but with China, things seem to be looking OK. At least compared to the U.S., those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and all that.

The Han Chinese population in China is actually aging/declining as well, thanks to the big-brained nature of the "one-child policy", made for the purposes of combatting overpopulation.

 

[Breadbassket]

You can always just build a small militia in Baja California to conquer Mexico.

I think filibustering (the military expedition kind) is illegal in the USA, sadly.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Lay them on us. I don't want to dig through articles for bits and pieces.

FACT SHEET: Joined by Allies and Partners, the United States Imposes Devastating Costs on Russia | The White House

Russia to Face Massive Costs from its Isolation from the Global Financial and Trade System and Cutting-Edge Technology Today, the United States,

www.whitehouse.gov

From the De-briefing Room of the Pants Shitter himself

Spoiler: spoiled for length

• Severing the connection to the U.S. financial system for Russia’s largest financial institution, Sberbank, including 25 subsidiaries, by imposing correspondent and payable-through account sanctions. This action will restrict Sberbank’s access to transactions made in the dollar. Sberbank is the largest bank in Russia, holds nearly one-third of the overall Russian banking sector’s assets, is heavily connected to the global financial system, and is systemically critical to the Russian financial system.
• Full blocking sanctions on Russia’s second largest financial institution, VTB Bank (VTB), including 20 subsidiaries. This action will freeze any of VTB’s assets touching the U.S financial system and prohibit U.S. persons from dealing with them. VTB holds nearly one-fifth of the overall Russian banking sector’s assets, is heavily exposed to the U.S. and western financial systems, and is systemically critical to the Russian financial system.
• Full blocking sanctions on three other major Russian financial institutions: Bank Otkritie, Sovcombank OJSC, and Novikombank- and 34 subsidiaries. These sanctions freeze any of these institutions’ assets touching the U.S financial system and prohibit U.S. persons from dealing with them. These financial institutions play a significant a role in the Russian economy.
• New debt and equity restrictions on thirteen of the most critical major Russian enterprises and entities. This includes restrictions on all transactions in, provision of financing for, and other dealings in new debt of greater than 14 days maturity and new equity issued by thirteen Russian state-owned enterprises and entities: Sberbank, AlfaBank, Credit Bank of Moscow, Gazprombank, Russian Agricultural Bank, Gazprom, Gazprom Neft, Transneft, Rostelecom, RusHydro, Alrosa, Sovcomflot, and Russian Railways. These entities, including companies critical to the Russian economy with estimated assets of nearly $1.4 trillion, will not be able to raise money through the U.S. market — a key source of capital and revenue generation, which limits the Kremlin’s ability to raise money for its activity.
• Additional full blocking sanctions on Russian elites and their family members: Sergei Ivanov (and his son, Sergei), Nikolai Patrushev (and his son Andrey), Igor Sechin (and his son Ivan), Andrey Puchkov, Yuriy Solviev (and two real estate companies he owns), Galina Ulyutina, and Alexander Vedyakhin. This action includes individuals who have enriched themselves at the expense of the Russian state, and have elevated their family members into some of the highest position of powers in the country. It also includes financial figures who sit atop Russia’s largest financial institutions and are responsible for providing the resources necessary to support Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. This action follows up on yesterday’s action targeting Russian elites and their family members and cuts them off from the U.S. financial system, freezes any assets they hold in the United States and blocks their travel to the United States.
• Costs on Belarus for supporting a further invasion of Ukraine by sanctioning 24 Belarusian individuals and entities, including targeting Belarus’ military and financial capabilities by sanctioning two significant Belarusian state-owned banks, nine defense firms, and seven regime-connected official and elites. We call on Belarus to withdraw its support for Russian aggression in Ukraine.
• Sweeping restrictions on Russia’s military to strike a blow to Putin’s military and strategic ambitions. This includes measures against military end users, including the Russian Ministry of Defense. Exports of nearly all U.S. items and items produced in foreign countries using certain U.S.-origin software, technology, or equipment will be restricted to targeted military end users. These comprehensive restrictions apply to the Russian Ministry of Defense, including the Armed Forces of Russia, wherever located.
• Russia-wide restrictions to choke off Russia’s import of technological goods critical to a diversified economy and Putin’s ability to project power. This includes Russia-wide denial of exports of sensitive technology, primarily targeting the Russian defense, aviation, and maritime sectors to cut off Russia’s access to cutting-edge technology. In addition to sweeping restrictions on the Russian-defense sector, the United States government will impose Russia-wide restrictions on sensitive U.S. technologies produced in foreign countries using U.S.-origin software, technology, or equipment. This includes Russia-wide restrictions on semiconductors, telecommunication, encryption security, lasers, sensors, navigation, avionics and maritime technologies. These severe and sustained controls will cut off Russia’s access to cutting edge technology.
• Historical multilateral cooperation that serves as a force multiplier in restricting more than $50 billion in key inputs to Russia- impacting far more than that in Russia’s production. As a result of this multilateral coordination, we will provide an exemption for other countries that adopt equally stringent measures. Countries that adopt substantially similar export restrictions are exempted from new U.S. licensing requirements for items produced in their countries. The European Union, Australia, Japan, Canada, New Zealand and the United Kingdom, have already communicated their plans for parallel actions. This unprecedented coordination significantly expands the scope of restrictions on Russia. Further engagement with Allies and partners will continue to maximize the impact on Russia’s military capabilities.

The next to last is the best one "Okay Ukraine, I know you are getting Tanks and Missiles and Jets shoved up your ass RIGHT THE FUCK NOW...but Russia won't be able to make new ones."

Also NO FUCKING NORDSTREAM SANCTION

 

[HumanHive]

The Han Chinese population in China is actually aging/declining as well, thanks to the big-brained nature of the "one-child policy", made for the purposes of combatting overpopulation.

Completely wrong.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

Is it? I know with Russia the demographic decline, plus the inevitable power vacuum that will form when Putin dies, give it a likely expiration date, but with China, things seem to be looking OK. At least compared to the U.S., those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and all that.

One child policy has lead to a demographic cliff, and Xi has massively consolidated power.
So they have the same issues as Russia.
They are also “money printing” as hard as the US.

Everyone is probably fucked in 30 years, but the leadership that got us here will all be dead by then.

 

[Marley Rathbone]

they both fly migs, could be anyone's guess

It was a sukhoi

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

It's winter, faggot. The grass is dead.

The grass is Russian, and it's speaking to me, it says rush B.

 

[Marissa Moira]

The Han Chinese population in China is actually aging/declining as well, thanks to the big-brained nature of the "one-child policy", made for the purposes of combatting overpopulation.

Someone needs to post pictures of the Russia/China border where they have bodies of dead chinese who tried to escape into russia. Local Russians do not like the Chinese one bit.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

I like you (usually) but this ain't it.

Oh yeah, I really fucked it up. Still, fuck me if I can't take a joke, right?

 

[Darksy DePhil]

https://twitter.com/ERCboxoffice/status/1496889104524451843

Let’s talk about sanctions. How about not releasing THE BATMAN in Russia. And all comic book flicks thereafter. It’s a limited thing, sure. Look, we know superheroes aren’t real, but perhaps they can be a small part of the solution. Dish out “consequences they have never seen.”

Russia is fuckin' DONE FOR !!

 

[lolnah]

I know you fags are jealous of his manbun but vaush has been making live stream over the issue for a week

He cut the manbun off, making his smugness somehow worse

 

[LUNEKO]

The front in eastern Ukraine has seen the most glow in the dark activity of perhaps any war ever, so understandably both sides are familiar with control of information. That being said after catching up on what little can be legitimately verified via video I have to say I'm not that impressed with the Russian performance so far and can't really see where this is heading.

I fully understand that Russian leadership ideally wants this done decisively with as few Ukrainian casualties as necessary, but the fact were still seeing fixed wing aircraft being downed a full day in indicates that either Russia aircraft are flying over precarious MANPAD traps without ground support or proper SEAD, or even worse somehow haven't taken out all of Ukraine's air assets by now and were seeing Ukrainian aircraft still being downed at this stage.

Every engagement with Russian's we've seen have been with vanguard units and the overwhelming majority of Russian forces have likely been limited to rear guard duties, but they haven't gone nearly as far as I would have expected and we've seen no evidence of mass capitulations on the Ukrainian side nor has the goverment evacuated.

I'm getting the impression what we've seen so far has been testing the waters more than anything else, hoping the for a quick goverment/military collapse or large pro Russian uprisings to make the optics seem less fucked. We haven't even seen any real urban combat, I expect it will get a lot more violent before any decisive conclusion.

Yeah, Russia has the numbers and the equipment, so why aren't they steamrolling Ukraine?
Incompetency? holding back? it doesn't help that glowies from all intelligence agencies on the world are obfuscating shit and churning out propaganda by the second.
There's not going to be a way of knowing what the fuck is going on until its actually over it seems its just a massive wall of disinfo from both sides that no man alone would be able to comb the facts from the fiction a digital fog of war

 

[burntwater]

The Han Chinese population in China is actually aging/declining as well, thanks to the big-brained nature of the "one-child policy", made for the purposes of combatting overpopulation.

Not to shit up the thread too much with an off topic post but PolyMatter on YouTube has a good series of videos on the upcoming decline of China: China's Reckoning

 

[MindYourSeabiscuits]

There are reports going around that this is a group of Chechens who are being sent into Kiev, same groups of guys that fought in Syria supposedly.

 

[verissimus]

I'm getting the impression what we've seen so far has been testing the waters more than anything else, hoping the for a quick goverment/military collapse or large pro Russian uprisings to make the optics seem less fucked. We haven't even seen any real urban combat, I expect it will get a lot more violent before any decisive conclusion.

Yeah, I'm really starting to wonder what the end-game here is supposed to be. Someone here mentioned Putin possibly be committed to regime change, but I can't see that happening if this continues to drag on.