Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Glowie Hunter Art Bell]

According to a BBC reporter, a discussion with a Russian diplomat after the reporter asked how he was doing.

"I don't know how to respond to this question," he texted back. "I am disgusted with myself, I am sick with myself. I am ashamed that we all partially let this happen... We all lied... How can there be forgiveness for us?"

I mean honestly, yeah i feel that. Russia is effectively dead after this, regardless of what happens in Ukraine. Its going to be years before trade is normalized with them again. Everything they make is fucking ass. Most of the population are apathetic drunks. The country was already fucked to begin with, and now Putin is giving his USSR fantasy a shot, because why the fuck not?

This conflict will likely end in a month or so, with a divided or completely conquered Ukraine, and a further weakened Russia.

 

[SuperShibuyaFighter]

To everyone who is worried or knows some retard who is worried about the draft, let us look at it.

First of all, this is what must be reached for a draft to occur.

• Congress and the president authorize a draft: The president claims a crisis has occurred which requires more troops than the volunteer military can supply. Congress passes and the president signs legislation which revises the Military Selective Service Act to initiate a draft for military manpower.
• The lottery: A lottery based on birthdays determines the order in which registered men are called up by Selective Service. The first to be called, in a sequence determined by the lottery, will be men whose 20th birthday falls during the calendar year the induction takes place, followed, if needed, by those aged 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 19 and 18 year olds (in that order).
• All parts of the Selective Service System are activated: The agency activates and orders its state directors and Reserve Force officers to report for duty.
• Physical, mental and moral evaluation of registrants: Registrants with low lottery numbers receive examination orders and are ordered to report for a physical, mental, and moral evaluation at a military entrance processing station (MEPS) to determine whether they are fit for military service. Once he is notified of the results of the evaluation, a registrant will be given 10 days to file a claim for exemption, postponement, or deferment.
• Local and appeal boards activated and induction notices sent: Local and appeal boards will begin processing registrant claims/appeals. Those who passed the military evaluation will receive induction orders. An inductee will have 10 days to report to a local MEPS for induction.
• First draftees are inducted: According to current plans, Selective Service must deliver the first inductees to the military within 193 days from the onset of a crisis.

That first part I bolded is the death sentence.

The part in red is the next death sentence.

Well, let's look at 2019 recruitment (Mind you, according to Army Times and Military dot Com, the numbers went to shit last year)
Regular Army (RA): 68,185 (100% of 68,000 goal)
Army Reserve (AR): 15,304 (98% of 15,600 goal)
Special Operations Recruiting Battalion: 6083 (96% of 6363 goal)
Warrant Officers: 1,888 (140% of 1,347 goal)
Medical Mission: 2021 (106.59% of 1896goal)
Chaplains: 356 (108% of 330 goal)

Well, that puts a lie to the red part.

BUT, let's get into the real meat of things. The honest shit. You might not want to hear this, and neither is the hysterical retard who you're trying to reassure won't be drafted because they have a Groot Funco pop lodged in their ass.

THE MILITARY DOESN'T WANT CONSCRIPTS!

Conscripts are stupid, lazy, unmotivated, hard to train, and incompetent.

This isn't the King James time. Hell, it isn't even The 'Nam with McNamara's Retards.

The modern military is complex as shit, and it's easier than fuck to get thrown out. No longer is it "Hand the retard the rifle and put him on the line." It hasn't been for 40 fucking years.

Infantry and other line slime jobs are complex as fuck, and as much as the line slime faggots like to fuck with REMFs, the critical REMF jobs require dedication, skill, training, motivation, and most of all, you have to work your ass off, even in peace time when the infantry is picking up cigarettes and the tankers are jerking off to loli porn.

You need the guy next to you to WANT to be there, to know, at least in the back of his head, that he volunteered for this shit.

There's a SHITLOAD of training that goes on beyond SHARP and DIE briefings. You need people who will pay attention, who WANT to know this shit, who are motivated to learn it and learn it well.

A conscript is a retard who is trying to escape as soon as he can.

You can't trust him.

Nobody in modern military WANTS a draft, because there's enough retards in the service and we can't ask the crayon eating ballsweat huffing Marines to take all of them.

It would be cheaper to offer better signup bonuses then to start the draft, and less political suicide.

Finally, the real problem isn't the draft.

It's how much of military operations have been turned over to civilians who are not going to go any where near a real war.

But no, neither you nor that retard screeching on Tik Tok while dancing with a dragon dildo shoved in their ass are getting drafted.

You aren't worth the trouble.

If only I could give you

 

[draggs]

To everyone who is worried or knows some retard who is worried about the draft, let us look at it.

First of all, this is what must be reached for a draft to occur.

• Congress and the president authorize a draft: The president claims a crisis has occurred which requires more troops than the volunteer military can supply. Congress passes and the president signs legislation which revises the Military Selective Service Act to initiate a draft for military manpower.
• The lottery: A lottery based on birthdays determines the order in which registered men are called up by Selective Service. The first to be called, in a sequence determined by the lottery, will be men whose 20th birthday falls during the calendar year the induction takes place, followed, if needed, by those aged 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 19 and 18 year olds (in that order).
• All parts of the Selective Service System are activated: The agency activates and orders its state directors and Reserve Force officers to report for duty.
• Physical, mental and moral evaluation of registrants: Registrants with low lottery numbers receive examination orders and are ordered to report for a physical, mental, and moral evaluation at a military entrance processing station (MEPS) to determine whether they are fit for military service. Once he is notified of the results of the evaluation, a registrant will be given 10 days to file a claim for exemption, postponement, or deferment.
• Local and appeal boards activated and induction notices sent: Local and appeal boards will begin processing registrant claims/appeals. Those who passed the military evaluation will receive induction orders. An inductee will have 10 days to report to a local MEPS for induction.
• First draftees are inducted: According to current plans, Selective Service must deliver the first inductees to the military within 193 days from the onset of a crisis.

That first part I bolded is the death sentence.

The part in red is the next death sentence.

Well, let's look at 2019 recruitment (Mind you, according to Army Times and Military dot Com, the numbers went to shit last year)
Regular Army (RA): 68,185 (100% of 68,000 goal)
Army Reserve (AR): 15,304 (98% of 15,600 goal)
Special Operations Recruiting Battalion: 6083 (96% of 6363 goal)
Warrant Officers: 1,888 (140% of 1,347 goal)
Medical Mission: 2021 (106.59% of 1896goal)
Chaplains: 356 (108% of 330 goal)

Well, that puts a lie to the red part.

BUT, let's get into the real meat of things. The honest shit. You might not want to hear this, and neither is the hysterical retard who you're trying to reassure won't be drafted because they have a Groot Funco pop lodged in their ass.

THE MILITARY DOESN'T WANT CONSCRIPTS!

Conscripts are stupid, lazy, unmotivated, hard to train, and incompetent.

This isn't the King James time. Hell, it isn't even The 'Nam with McNamara's Retards.

The modern military is complex as shit, and it's easier than fuck to get thrown out. No longer is it "Hand the retard the rifle and put him on the line." It hasn't been for 40 fucking years.

Infantry and other line slime jobs are complex as fuck, and as much as the line slime faggots like to fuck with REMFs, the critical REMF jobs require dedication, skill, training, motivation, and most of all, you have to work your ass off, even in peace time when the infantry is picking up cigarettes and the tankers are jerking off to loli porn.

You need the guy next to you to WANT to be there, to know, at least in the back of his head, that he volunteered for this shit.

There's a SHITLOAD of training that goes on beyond SHARP and DIE briefings. You need people who will pay attention, who WANT to know this shit, who are motivated to learn it and learn it well.

A conscript is a retard who is trying to escape as soon as he can.

You can't trust him.

Nobody in modern military WANTS a draft, because there's enough retards in the service and we can't ask the crayon eating ballsweat huffing Marines to take all of them.

It would be cheaper to offer better signup bonuses then to start the draft, and less political suicide.

Finally, the real problem isn't the draft.

It's how much of military operations have been turned over to civilians who are not going to go any where near a real war.

But no, neither you nor that retard screeching on Tik Tok while dancing with a dragon dildo shoved in their ass are getting drafted.

You aren't worth the trouble.

The regular army has never wanted conscripts

Hell in both world wars and the civil war the regular army preferred no draft

The regular army will do what it is told if congress and the president of 2043 decide sinking the chink navy and blowing up their air force isn't enough we need to invade manchuria too for some dumbshit reason

 

[BeeseChurger]

Glory to the motherland comrades. May the light of Christ help us remove the degenerate filth.

I mean we'll see how things shake out once this whole thing blows over
But I'm almost tempted to learn either cyrillic or mandarin
Those 2 countries seem fairly (?) unified and they have a vision for the future
That's more than most western countries seem to be capable of in the last 10-20 years

 

[Glowie Hunter Art Bell]

To everyone who is worried or knows some retard who is worried about the draft, let us look at it.

First of all, this is what must be reached for a draft to occur.

• Congress and the president authorize a draft: The president claims a crisis has occurred which requires more troops than the volunteer military can supply. Congress passes and the president signs legislation which revises the Military Selective Service Act to initiate a draft for military manpower.
• The lottery: A lottery based on birthdays determines the order in which registered men are called up by Selective Service. The first to be called, in a sequence determined by the lottery, will be men whose 20th birthday falls during the calendar year the induction takes place, followed, if needed, by those aged 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 19 and 18 year olds (in that order).
• All parts of the Selective Service System are activated: The agency activates and orders its state directors and Reserve Force officers to report for duty.
• Physical, mental and moral evaluation of registrants: Registrants with low lottery numbers receive examination orders and are ordered to report for a physical, mental, and moral evaluation at a military entrance processing station (MEPS) to determine whether they are fit for military service. Once he is notified of the results of the evaluation, a registrant will be given 10 days to file a claim for exemption, postponement, or deferment.
• Local and appeal boards activated and induction notices sent: Local and appeal boards will begin processing registrant claims/appeals. Those who passed the military evaluation will receive induction orders. An inductee will have 10 days to report to a local MEPS for induction.
• First draftees are inducted: According to current plans, Selective Service must deliver the first inductees to the military within 193 days from the onset of a crisis.

That first part I bolded is the death sentence.

The part in red is the next death sentence.

Well, let's look at 2019 recruitment (Mind you, according to Army Times and Military dot Com, the numbers went to shit last year)
Regular Army (RA): 68,185 (100% of 68,000 goal)
Army Reserve (AR): 15,304 (98% of 15,600 goal)
Special Operations Recruiting Battalion: 6083 (96% of 6363 goal)
Warrant Officers: 1,888 (140% of 1,347 goal)
Medical Mission: 2021 (106.59% of 1896goal)
Chaplains: 356 (108% of 330 goal)

Well, that puts a lie to the red part.

BUT, let's get into the real meat of things. The honest shit. You might not want to hear this, and neither is the hysterical retard who you're trying to reassure won't be drafted because they have a Groot Funco pop lodged in their ass.

THE MILITARY DOESN'T WANT CONSCRIPTS!

Conscripts are stupid, lazy, unmotivated, hard to train, and incompetent.

This isn't the King James time. Hell, it isn't even The 'Nam with McNamara's Retards.

The modern military is complex as shit, and it's easier than fuck to get thrown out. No longer is it "Hand the retard the rifle and put him on the line." It hasn't been for 40 fucking years.

Infantry and other line slime jobs are complex as fuck, and as much as the line slime faggots like to fuck with REMFs, the critical REMF jobs require dedication, skill, training, motivation, and most of all, you have to work your ass off, even in peace time when the infantry is picking up cigarettes and the tankers are jerking off to loli porn.

You need the guy next to you to WANT to be there, to know, at least in the back of his head, that he volunteered for this shit.

There's a SHITLOAD of training that goes on beyond SHARP and DIE briefings. You need people who will pay attention, who WANT to know this shit, who are motivated to learn it and learn it well.

A conscript is a retard who is trying to escape as soon as he can.

You can't trust him.

Nobody in modern military WANTS a draft, because there's enough retards in the service and we can't ask the crayon eating ballsweat huffing Marines to take all of them.

It would be cheaper to offer better signup bonuses then to start the draft, and less political suicide.

Finally, the real problem isn't the draft.

It's how much of military operations have been turned over to civilians who are not going to go any where near a real war.

But no, neither you nor that retard screeching on Tik Tok while dancing with a dragon dildo shoved in their ass are getting drafted.

You aren't worth the trouble.

Bra fucking vo, this thread needs this. The draft shit isnt happening.

 

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[Richardface]

I mean honestly, yeah i feel that. Russia is effectively dead after this, regardless of what happens in Ukraine. Its going to be years before trade is normalized with them again. Everything they make is fucking ass. Most of the population are apathetic drunks. The country was already fucked to begin with, and now Putin is giving his USSR fantasy a shot, because why the fuck not?

This conflict will likely end in a month or so, with a divided or completely conquered Ukraine, and a further weakened Russia.

Nah, if Russia gains the resources of Ukraine, and her military is the terror of Europe again, aaand they've successfully pantsed a US president on the world stage, they are in a far better position

Just so long as the partisan problem isn't too bad, but shouldn't be anything some Chechens, shovels and 9mm won't be able to fix

 

[MG-34]

I was wondering if the Russians were using the Tu-95s to soften up targets but I haven't heard anything about them.

They wouldn't risk strategic bombers into contested Airspace. Whatever is left of the UrAF could likely just BVR them.

 

[MySonDavid]

Also Biden will announce his supreme court pick tomorrow so we can all hopefully forget about this terrible misunderstanding!!!

Whoever he picks raped me in St. Petersburg in 1994.

 

[Coomfucius]

The regular army has never wanted conscripts

Hell in both world wars and the civil war the regular army preferred no draft

The regular army will do what it is told if congress and the president of 2043 decide sinking the chink navy and blowing up their air force isn't enough we need to invade manchuria too for some dumbshit reason

 

[draggs]

Nah, if Russia gains the resources of Ukraine, and her military is the terror of Europe again, aaand they've successfully pantsed a US president on the world stage, they are in a far better position

Just so long as the partisan problem isn't too bad, but shouldn't be anything some Chechens, shovels and 9mm won't be able to fix

Last time Russia had to put down Ukrainian partisans, it took them 8 years after the war officially ended to finish the last Banderist (well the Russians called them all Banderist) diehards

 

[Richardface]

Last time Russia had to put down Ukrainian partisans, it took them 8 years after the war ended to finish the last Banderist (well the Russians called them all Banderist) diehards

That was a world before infra-red and UAVs

 

[LUNEKO]

I mean honestly, yeah i feel that. Russia is effectively dead after this, regardless of what happens in Ukraine. Its going to be years before trade is normalized with them again. Everything they make is fucking ass. Most of the population are apathetic drunks. The country was already fucked to begin with, and now Putin is giving his USSR fantasy a shot, because why the fuck not?

This conflict will likely end in a month or so, with a divided or completely conquered Ukraine, and a further weakened Russia.

This is what i was wondering, what is Putin plan here? is it just a desperate kick at the end of his career or is there something beyond Ukraine? they already knew starting from the word go that this war was gonna cost them any and all international trade probably for decades.
What could possibly be worth ruining your international trade and cooperation?
While i don't discard the possibility of just being done by pure pride one has to wonder if there's anything that's not just Ukraine or goes beyond Ukraine that seemed worthy

 

[Saleh]

What no one realises is that this shit is nothing new.

The Brits had a fear boner about Russian troops invading India after the Russians kicked Napoleon's ass.

Since then, the Russians have enticed fear from the western nations.

Before they thought that the Russians were a threat to "civilization" and now they're a threat to "democracy".

 

[draggs]

That was a world before infra-red and UAVs

Iraq and Syria and the Taleeban from Afghaneestan and Pakeestan say hello

Guerillas can still keep on keepin on for a long time pretty much anywhere so long as there's any decent cover

Ukraine has lots of forests and cities for partisans to hide in

 

[Jarolleon]

Russia considers officially branding LGBT+ groups and furries as ‘extremists’​

Russia considers officially branding LGBT+ groups and furries as ‘extremists’

LGBT+ groups in Russia should be designated as “extremist” organisations, an influential government figure has said.

uk.news.yahoo.com

"Misinformation" gets reclassified as terrorism in America, and fags get reclassified as extremists in Russia. It's like every government is increasingly clamping down on their perceived enemies. Is it because they all see rough times ahead and want to go on the offensive before the coming economic collapse ruins their legitimacy, so that no dissident group will have the strength to take advantage of their future weakness?

 

[SuperShibuyaFighter]

This is what i was wondering, what is Putin plan here? is it just a desperate kick at the end of his career or is there something beyond Ukraine? they already knew starting from the word go that this war was gonna cost them any and all international trade probably for decades.
What could possibly be worth ruining your international trade and cooperation?
While i don't discard the possibility of just being done by pure pride one has to wonder if there's anything that's not just Ukraine or goes beyond Ukraine that seemed worthy

Putin has no real plan he just wants to sperg out. Putin is retarded and I would not have sex with him.

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

Bra fucking vo, this thread needs this. The draft shit isnt happening.

Plus, wouldn't it take at least half a year to train a draftee into combat readiness? Ukraine clearly doesn't have that kind of time.

 

[Jewthulhu]

Anybody getting hardcore 2016 Syria flashbacks right now?

Or 1991 Kuwait?

Or 2020 Wuhan?

Wew glowie lads come up with something new at least.

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Putin literally used "Ukraine is constructing WMDs" as his justification lmao

 

[introvertedobserver]

Nobody in modern military WANTS a draft, because there's enough retards in the service and we can't ask the crayon eating ballsweat huffing Marines to take all of them.

Counter point -

Virtually nobody in the modern military WANTS diversity training or transgender soldiers who only signed up to get Uncle Sam to pay for their transition, and yet here we are.