Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Nah, if Russia gains the resources of Ukraine, and her military is the terror of Europe again, aaand they've successfully pantsed a US president on the world stage, they are in a far better position

Just so long as the partisan problem isn't too bad, but shouldn't be anything some Chechens, shovels and 9mm won't be able to fix

Problem is they were already a husk to begin with. Russia has been fucked for years, gutted by the fall of the USSR.

Resources mean jack shit when no one will buy them from you besides some camel fuckers, and even then its only chump change. You can turn inward, but as I said before, the population is absolutely apathetic as fuck and poor as shit. You could shoot their children in from of them and so long as they had a drink and a smoke they'd shrug and walk away. Its also riddled with disease, inbreeding, drug abuse and alcoholism. Seriously, look at how some of the russian and Ukrainian fucks look.

While this is a pretty big event, in the end its gunna be a nothing burger, and a negative mark for Russia.

Biden is always pants'd. The man is a fucking embarrassement. Physically cringed listening to his speech earlier.
 
Problem is they were already a husk to begin with. Russia has been fucked for years, gutted by the fall of the USSR.

Resources mean jack shit when no one will buy them from you besides some camel fuckers, and even then its only chump change. You can turn inward, but as I said before, the population is absolutely apathetic as fuck and poor as shit. You could shoot their children in from of them and so long as they had a drink and a smoke they'd shrug and walk away. Its also riddled with disease, inbreeding, drug abuse and alcoholism. Seriously, look at how some of the russian and Ukrainian fucks look.

While this is a pretty big event, in the end its gunna be a nothing burger, and a negative mark for Russia.

Biden is always pants'd. The man is a fucking embarrassement. Physically cringed listening to his speech earlier.

Have you been to Arkansas?

Also: people have been saying Russia is fucked for 30 years now and look where we are
 
American reconnaissance planes are apparently not allowed to fly according to free will
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Biden is always pants'd. The man is a fucking embarrassement. Physically cringed listening to his speech earlier.
Honestly not even cheating is going to save them from the red wave this November.

I think this crap has caused the current low rated administration to drop another 10% in popularity.
 
To everyone who is worried or knows some retard who is worried about the draft, let us look at it.

First of all, this is what must be reached for a draft to occur.
  • Congress and the president authorize a draft: The president claims a crisis has occurred which requires more troops than the volunteer military can supply. Congress passes and the president signs legislation which revises the Military Selective Service Act to initiate a draft for military manpower.
  • The lottery: A lottery based on birthdays determines the order in which registered men are called up by Selective Service. The first to be called, in a sequence determined by the lottery, will be men whose 20th birthday falls during the calendar year the induction takes place, followed, if needed, by those aged 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 19 and 18 year olds (in that order).
  • All parts of the Selective Service System are activated: The agency activates and orders its state directors and Reserve Force officers to report for duty.
  • Physical, mental and moral evaluation of registrants: Registrants with low lottery numbers receive examination orders and are ordered to report for a physical, mental, and moral evaluation at a military entrance processing station (MEPS) to determine whether they are fit for military service. Once he is notified of the results of the evaluation, a registrant will be given 10 days to file a claim for exemption, postponement, or deferment.
  • Local and appeal boards activated and induction notices sent: Local and appeal boards will begin processing registrant claims/appeals. Those who passed the military evaluation will receive induction orders. An inductee will have 10 days to report to a local MEPS for induction.
  • First draftees are inducted: According to current plans, Selective Service must deliver the first inductees to the military within 193 days from the onset of a crisis.
That first part I bolded is the death sentence.

The part in red is the next death sentence.

Well, let's look at 2019 recruitment (Mind you, according to Army Times and Military dot Com, the numbers went to shit last year)
Regular Army (RA): 68,185 (100% of 68,000 goal)
Army Reserve (AR): 15,304 (98% of 15,600 goal)
Special Operations Recruiting Battalion: 6083 (96% of 6363 goal)
Warrant Officers: 1,888 (140% of 1,347 goal)
Medical Mission: 2021 (106.59% of 1896goal)
Chaplains: 356 (108% of 330 goal)

Well, that puts a lie to the red part.

BUT, let's get into the real meat of things. The honest shit. You might not want to hear this, and neither is the hysterical retard who you're trying to reassure won't be drafted because they have a Groot Funco pop lodged in their ass.

THE MILITARY DOESN'T WANT CONSCRIPTS!

Conscripts are stupid, lazy, unmotivated, hard to train, and incompetent.

This isn't the King James time. Hell, it isn't even The 'Nam with McNamara's Retards.

The modern military is complex as shit, and it's easier than fuck to get thrown out. No longer is it "Hand the retard the rifle and put him on the line." It hasn't been for 40 fucking years.

Infantry and other line slime jobs are complex as fuck, and as much as the line slime faggots like to fuck with REMFs, the critical REMF jobs require dedication, skill, training, motivation, and most of all, you have to work your ass off, even in peace time when the infantry is picking up cigarettes and the tankers are jerking off to loli porn.

You need the guy next to you to WANT to be there, to know, at least in the back of his head, that he volunteered for this shit.

There's a SHITLOAD of training that goes on beyond SHARP and DIE briefings. You need people who will pay attention, who WANT to know this shit, who are motivated to learn it and learn it well.

A conscript is a retard who is trying to escape as soon as he can.

You can't trust him.

Nobody in modern military WANTS a draft, because there's enough retards in the service and we can't ask the crayon eating ballsweat huffing Marines to take all of them.

It would be cheaper to offer better signup bonuses then to start the draft, and less political suicide.

Finally, the real problem isn't the draft.

It's how much of military operations have been turned over to civilians who are not going to go any where near a real war.

But no, neither you nor that retard screeching on Tik Tok while dancing with a dragon dildo shoved in their ass are getting drafted.

You aren't worth the trouble.
Another brilliant, insightful, and lulzy Johnnypost.
 
Honestly not even cheating is going to save them from the red wave this November.

I think this crap has caused the current low rated administration to drop another 10% in popularity.
There will be no red wave because at the end of the day, people don't care about the big picture. Putin could have dropped ten nuclear bombs on Kyiv and Americans would still vote for the person who makes them feel the best and whichever party offers the best psychological replacement to the parental figure they have the worst relationship with. This does not endear them to the Republican party which for many intents and purposes, is very focused on outcome rather then electoral victory (for good or ill).

You overestimate how much Americans care and how long their memories are.
 
Russia had no choice. NATO/USA backed them into a corner. They either let the Americans and the Chinese carve up the Motherland or they make a move to consolidate their power and claim the necessary resources to ensure their continuance.

The choice was clear once Trump was removed because the cabal of powers that had conspired to destroy Russia after the Cold War was back in charge in Washington. Small minded people could not see why Trump was so important to a more free and just world and instead immediately handed power back to their abusers.
 
This is what i was wondering, what is Putin plan here? is it just a desperate kick at the end of his career or is there something beyond Ukraine? they already knew starting from the word go that this war was gonna cost them any and all international trade probably for decades.
What could possibly be worth ruining your international trade and cooperation?
While i don't discard the possibility of just being done by pure pride one has to wonder if there's anything that's not just Ukraine or goes beyond Ukraine that seemed worthy
Putin's reasons for invading are specifically to keep Ukraine out of NATO and more broadly to reunite the ethnic Russians who were left in foreign countries after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Ukraine is strategically important for a number of reasons, if Ukraine were to join NATO it would mean Russia could have western nukes on their doorstep and also the reason they invaded Crimea in 2014 was because of worries that Ukraine would join NATO which would then leave their naval base at Sevastopol in western hands and without Sevastopol Russia has no major port on the Black Sea and no way to the Mediterranean and thus no way to the Atlantic. Another reason for invading the Ukraine now is Crimea has been in danger in running out of fresh water which Ukraine either threatened or did shut off, can't remember.
Pride does play a part in this, Putin does have a very revanchist policy and wants to reclaim the former glory of Russia. Also important to note that it's not just Putin going rogue on this he does answer to a group of elites in Russia and they want this as well.
That isn't everything but just a reader's digest version for the reason behind Russia's invasion.
 
There will be no red wave because at the end of the day, people don't care about the big picture. Putin could have dropped ten nuclear bombs on Kyiv and Americans would still vote for the person who makes them feel the best and whichever party offers the best psychological replacement to the parental figure they have the worst relationship with. This does not endear them to the Republican party which for many intents and purposes, is very focused on outcome rather then electoral victory (for good or ill).

You overestimate how much Americans care and how long their memories are.
Where I live everyone and their mother hates Biden. I see black guys with MAGA hats now which is new and hadn't seen in person during Trump.

Every normie at my (place redacted) says Biden is to blame for this. I think you underestimate what happens when people's safety is threatened.
 
Russia had no choice. NATO/USA backed them into a corner. They either let the Americans and the Chinese carve up the Motherland or they make a move to consolidate their power and claim the necessary resources to ensure their continuance.

The choice was clear once Trump was removed because the cabal of powers that had conspired to destroy Russia after the Cold War was back in charge in Washington. Small minded people could not see why Trump was so important to a more free and just world and instead immediately handed power back to their abusers.
Would this count as the fabled Russian opinion we have been trying to find?
 
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In the year 1592, the Korean fortress of Dongnae was besieged by invading Japanese. Poised to take the fortress and massacre everyone inside, the Japanese delivered the Korean prefect a message, demanding to be allowed to pass through the lands that the fortress protected.

The prefect, Song Sang-hyeon, replied: "It is easy for me to die, but difficult to let you pass." The Japanese killed him and butchered the fortress's defenders, but Korea has never forgotten him.

I hope that Snake Island eventually bears a monument to these fine soldiers and their grim defiance, as well. Regardless of who winds up holding it.
He's not shit compared to Ariobarzanes and Youtab.

Alexander the Great conquered most of Persian Empire, defeating the Persian Emperor Darius III twice in battle, never losing a single battle against anyone.

Alexander then marched on the Persian capital, Persepolis. Darius abandoned it, ordering the Satrap of the area, Ariobarzanes, to do his best to fight Alexander.

Ariobarzanes and his sister Youtab led a small force to close off a valley, preventing Alexander's advance. Alexander led a second force around and pincered Ariobarzanes, Ariobarzanes and his men fought through the Greek pincer like lions and fought back to Persepolis to prepare for a siege.

However, the gates were closed and the guards ignored Ariobarzanes' requests to open the gate. Unbeknownst to him, Tiridates, the royal treasurer, had already secretly swore allegiance to Alexander through letters. Realizing they were betrayed, Ariobarzanes charged the enemy lines, Youtab at his side. Their entire army was wiped out and Alexander conquered Persia.
 
Ask the generals during Vietnam... Politicians care more about optics than winning, much to the detriment of the mission.
That doesn't answer my question though. What parts of military ops have been turned over to civilians? I'm not doubting the claim or anything.
 
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