Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[KiwiSeperatist]

give this nigga a rifle.

give him a suicide bomb vest instead

 

[MugolEx]

I figured so but that bugmen mentality is nothing new. I hate the MCU so much it's unreal




Nato has been worthless. Shame this isn't happening in 2024 as Trump can say he was right and Americans will not remember this by next yearView attachment 3016601View attachment 3016602

Oy vey nice photo-op. Now have him lead the charge then it'll be impressed

Not the sanctionrinos

So? Is that like a compliment for Trump?

 

[Dona Morte]

Pulled from RT (Russian state run)
7pm curfew in Kiev.
Possibly confirms infiltration by commandos.

Kiev imposes nighttime curfew — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union

archived 25 Feb 2022 11:05:31 UTC

archive.ph

 

[Stasi]

Don't wanna burst the bubble but that's footage from DCS World.

GHOST OF KIEV KILL | Intense dogfight between the Ghost of Kiev (MiG29) and a Russian Su27.

#shorts #ukraine This footage is from DCS, but is nevertheless made out of respect for “The Ghost of Kiev.” If he is real, may God be with him; if he is fake...

m.youtube.com

Lmao it's like the story from yesterday of some livestream getting hundreds of thousands of viewers thinking it was live footage only for it to turn out to be Arma 3. People are too quick to believe every single piece of "breaking news"

 

[The Foldless Brain]

I honestly observe the opposite where things are relatively calm and just videos being posted at this hour, and then the thread turns into a shitshow when the Biden buttlickers and slavaboos show up to call each other nigger

I'm awake. Biden and the undead who voted for him are niggers and this non-country will have lost by next Monday.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Ukraine wasn't part of NATO, but It Was a part of countries that we and Europe gave assurances that we would protect. While we can get a little plausible deniability from not signing any treaties, We do have multiple officials declaring their sovereignty as a state and volunteering to support them including the sitting president, if he remembers it at all.

Psalm 146:3: Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

 

[Johnny Salami]

So? Is that like a compliment for Trump?

Trump continues to be right about Nato; they can afford their welfare programs because we shore up defenses for them. At this point Americans need to realize they will die for European oil

 

[A Cardboard Box]

I'm awake. Biden and the undead who voted for him are niggers and this non-country will have lost by next Monday.

Monday is generous.

 

[Granate37]

They don't have the ability to print cash to sustain a forever war

They'll manage. Armed forces cost money even in peacetime. Once hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers are marching disarmed down the roads, the Russians can begin to partially demobilize. But yes it will hurt, a lot.

and they don't have a bottomless pit of manpower to pull from.

Next years conscripts will be able to replace every single one of the conscripts currently in serving in Ukraine.

 

[DumbDude42]

That's pretty hyperbolic. It's the beginning of the end. We're pretty much right on track for what I and everyone else with an idea of real force matchups have predicted: 72 hours of organized resistance from launch.

Russia doesn't have the soldiers or resources to dig in and occupy the country, and doing so would be very unpopular as US backed guerillas trained in Poland and Romania would send a few Russians home in body bags every week. Russia wants a castrated Ukraine, and when they dispatch the organized resistance they will do a GWB impression with a mission accomplished ceremony and then fuck off, awarding everything east of the Dneiper to their puppets in the Donbass. This is not the battle for the forever fate of Ukraine, this is the castration of a potential enemy next door. Not that I agree with it, mind you, I would love to see the hohols and slavs dig in and fight a forever war, it would be incredibly funny, but it's not going to happen.

"oh its not going to be that bad" is very fucking easy to say when you're an outside observer with no skin in the game
very fucking different situation when you're holed up in kyiv with the sound of artillery strikes in the background

reminder: the last time russia invaded and conquered ukraine was in the aftermath of world war 1. ukraine had just managed to achieve independence from their russian overlords when tsarist russia collapsed and the germans forced brest-litovsk on the remains of the russian state. but the germans were quickly removed as a power from the region when they lost their own western front, so the russians came back and took ukraine by force, and what came next went down in history as 'holodomor' and involved millions of ukrainians being deliberately starved to death by their russian overlords.

ukraine remembers this. expecting them to be all fine and "ok whatever" about russia invading them again is like telling armenia that getting invaded by turkey would be no big deal for them.

 

[Tour of Italy]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
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Things still missing from current sanctions:
1. China being on board
2. India being on board
3. Sanctions against the Russian energy sector

In short, everything so far has been practically worthless.

 

[Richardface]

They'll manage. Armed forces cost money even in peacetime. Once hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers are marching disarmed down the roads, the Russians can begin to partially demobilize. But yes it will hurt, a lot.

Next years conscripts will be able to replace every single one of the conscripts currently in serving in Ukraine.

The russian forces deployed are entirely full-time contract soldiers, russia doesn't rely on conscripts for combat units anymore

 

[HumanHive]

"oh its not going to be that bad" is very fucking easy to say when you're an outside observer with no skin in the game
very fucking different situation when you're holed up in kyiv with the sound of artillery strikes in the background

reminder: the last time russia invaded and conquered ukraine was in the aftermath of world war 1. ukraine had just managed to achieve independence from their russian overlords when tsarist russia collapsed and the germans forced brest-litovsk on the remains of the russian state. but the germans were quickly removed as a power from the region when they lost their own western front, so the russians came back and took ukraine by force, and what came next went down in history as 'holodomor' and involved millions of ukrainians being deliberately starved to death by their russian overlords.

ukraine remembers this. expecting them to be all fine and "ok whatever" about russia invading them again is like telling armenia that getting invaded by turkey would be no big deal for them.

CIA lies. Ukrainians long for the taste of the Russian boot.

 

[Emperor Pupienus]

President Zelensky is now with the Ukrainian Army in Kiev.

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I've got to hand it to him, Zelensky is a brave man. It's quite the juxtaposition with the Quisling leadership of Afghanistan bravely fleeing the country at the first sign of trouble. Zelensky has purportedly not even fled the city, despite US advice to the contrary. Perhaps a little foolhardy, but it's got to be a nice boost to morale on their side. At least until something goes wrong. I wonder what their line of succession looks like.

 

[Shittus Maximus]

Psalm 146:3: Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

Yeah it's cute and all quoting bible references but the former Eastern Bloc has seen before how quickly they can be abandoned to the wolves. If you don't think there are current meetings for at least their own defense agreement you're fooling yourself.

 

[Ethereal Eye]

Anyone sick of all the doomers being all, "OMG THIS IS LITERALLY WW3!!!"

Especially the Gen Z ones, like niggas just because you are too young to remember Afghanistan and Irac it doesn't mean that this is the first major war since WW2.

Likewise. I'm even seeing sperging from members of Gen X in my workplace. Whenever something major happens, the WW3 chimping out begins. I'm fucking tired of it.

 

[hhaergenreyt]

https://twitter.com/JackBMontgomery/status/1497130404964360217

The wages of wind und solar. Rub this in the face of every pissant "green energy" activist who pushed the Germans to turn off their nuclear reactors. "Renewables" can't run a whole electricity grid so they became completely dependent on Russian gas to make up the shortfall in baseload capacity. They can't sanction Russia by turning off their most lucrative export. Cardboard country.

 

[Richardface]

I mean, the other option was to mobilize reserves and start a draft to go fight Russians in Ukraine. Nobody seriously considered that. The US doesn't have the troops to just shit out a 200,000 strong combat force in Europe. Germany should be doing the heavy lifting but they sold their tanks to pay for rapefugee gibs. There's two sanctions that would actually work: ending Nordstream and kicking Russia off of SWIFT. Those together would crater the Russian economy. It wouldn't stop the war, it wouldn't prevent what's coming, but it would seriously damage the Russian economy for years. Coward Europeans don't even want to do that.

Nordstream was built as an alternative to the Ukrainian pipelines. Sanctioning it might not be so effective given current events

 

[Strix454]

This is not the battle for the forever fate of Ukraine, this is the castration of a potential enemy next door.

A very important point. And its worth remembering that this is not the first time something like this has happened. Back in the
early 2000s, US VP Dick Cheney was aggressively pushing a program for getting the country of Georgia into NATO. The Russians
eventually noticed and arranged a very public castration of Georgia and its pretensions in 2008.

The US policy of expanding NATO into the heart of the former soviet union has always been a stupid policy that administrations have only
ever half-heartedly committed to. Presidents would commit to it as long as cost nothing and committed them to do nothing. If the US
has been serious about helping Ukraine, the would have poured the money necessary into the country to fix its economic problems
and give it a credible military.

But they never did. All they ever did was encourage successive governments in Ukraine to believe that NATO and EU membership
would be a solution to all their problems.

That said, the Russian policy on this is insane. Going into Kiev and installing a new friendly government doesn't solve any problem.
It just resets the clock. All this mess in Ukraine started because Moscow's friends in Ukraine were too weak to hold on to power. They
were so weak they got pushed out by street demonstrations. Even if the Russians put another friendly regime in Kiev, its only a matter
of time before that regime is going to be in trouble again. And Russia is going to get stuck paying Ukraine's bills now as well.

 

[Toothpaste]

"Shooting in Kiev near Povitroflotsky Prospekt"

Unconfirmed