Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Not because he is a right-wing dictator. Its because anyone who gets in the way of the United States becomes the new "Hitler". Nearly every war fought since world war II has been a
war to stop the "new Hitler". The enemy always has to be made into a new Hitler as part of the legal/moral/intellectual justification for the war. Hitler 's image is used as a sort of
secular "devil" and when someone is made into the new devil, the only possible policy is war to their total destruction. When you make your opponent into "new hitler", there
are no rules anymore and there is a whole world war II historical narrative that any discussion of the issue is pushed into.
I know that but in the eyes of a lot of retards that think he is Hitler just because he is evil dictator man, not that the US can't stand a rival after 30 years of being the sole global superpower.

You check Reddit, Imgur, anywhere you'll see Holocaust quotes and people talking about how Vlad will genocide Ukrainians and Jews and shit, how Trump is absolutely a Russian agent, how Russia committed a warcrime shelling an island garrison after requesting their surrender and being told no.

The MIC propaganda machine is angrily drumming up war support and just like back in 2014 when Russia intervened in that Color Revolution in Kiev and took Crimea they are upset war seems off the cards since they lack the balls to invade anything bigger than Iraq.
 
After two days of fighting, I wanted to summarize my thoughts real quick, because with every passing moment I start to fall deeper and deeper into the camp that suspects Russia is wiping the floor with Ukraine and the retards in Kiev (Why the fuck are we spelling it Kyiv now?) refuse to acknowledge it.

If you believe the Ukrainian Army, they've held the line everywhere. There's been entire armored columns destroyed, they've shot down ten gorrillion Russian jets, they have full air superiority over Kiev, they took back the airport outside Kiev without much trouble, and they're well on their way to winning the war by Christmas. Except if this were the case, why in ten fucks are they unloading crates of AK47s all over Kiev for any random gopnik with an index finger and a hangover to use to take up the Glorious Defense of Kiev with? If they're winning so hard, why the fuck are they blowing up their own infrastructure to deny the Russians access to Kiev? Why is it that the security forces in Russia who raid thot offices look more squared away than the supposed elite airborne special forces that held an airport deep behind enemy lines that Ukraine supposedly captured? If Ukraine is winning, why are they begging foreign veterans to drive on down to Lviv and sign up for the AK47 Brigade? Why are they scrounging up every grandpa and high schooler from Mariupol to Lviv if the Ukrainian Army truly are Brave and Honest Good Boys?

Furthermore, where the fuck are all these Javelins that western powers handed out? I'm seeing crates of decrepit AKMs, but no Javelins that were supposed to be lining every roadside and painting Russian tanks blue and yellow. Which Ukie oligarch or corrupt general sold those off for an escape fund?

The Russians have been treating the Ukrainian populace with kid gloves so far. Have there been retarded air strikes and shells landing in civilian areas? Yeah, of course there has, but there's been no evidence that the Russians are deliberately targeting rando civilians for ethnic genocide. So far it seems like you'll get less hassle out of a convoy of armed Russians when you're filming them than you would trying to film New York Police Department. Thots have gone up screaming and cussing at Russian soldiers, they've been loitering around destroyed vehicles filming with arms still inside, driving around the Russians willy-nilly, and even purposely trying to get themselves run over by the Russians - the response? Nothing. For all the hit lists, the genocide, the ethnic cleansing the Russians are supposed to be doing, they aren't doing it.

But if you give every retard in Kiev an AK and tell him to go out and take pot-shots at Russians, how quickly do you think that will change? The next Russian who sees a Ukrainian with something in his hand won't take time to figure out if its a camera or a pistol, he's just going to shoot him and be done with it. The Ukrainian Government is essentially using their own people at this point as cannon fodder to goad the Russians into fighting and killing civilians and they are fucking doing it on purpose.

The Ukrainians are doing every-fucking-thing they can to get NATO involvement. They know that if photos of dozens of dead Ukies in civvie clothes get released that the west will go apeshit over muh russian genocide. And what's worse? The retards and fags in our government and on Reddit will cheer for these dumbasses to go out and get themselves killed in order to try and goad the west into intervening.

Look, fuck the Russians, this is their fault, too. I'll be honest and say my personal feelings lend me to being more compassionate to Ukraine's troubles than Russia's, but they're at fault for this retarded bullshit war as well. The real losers here are your average Ukrainian, who will probably wind up getting shot, because some commissar in the Ukrainian Army is going to make him wear a bandana on his arm and shoot at a bunch of BTR80s with an AK. If the Ukrainian Government cared about their people at-fucking-all, they would enter into legitimate and earnest talks with the Russians for a surrender of some sort - even if that be unconditional. We can tell they don't give a shit, because there is literally zero fuck-all effort on the behalf of the Ukrainian government to evacuate Kiev. And why should they? They need the civilian populace there to tamper Russian resolve to turn them into giblets. For as much as they're saying that the Russians are going to execute everyone, they sure are relying on the Russians' good will to not bomb Ukrainian civilians into the stone age.

Could the Ukies be winning and we've all got this wrong? Sure. But it doesn't fucking look like they're winning, does it?
who the fuck knows what it looks like I've been hearing contradicting news this whole time
 
isn't there some rule in the Geneva convention that you just can't arm civilians in a war or something? They would need uniforms and insignias for this not to be a war crime, or am I wrong about that?
I might be wrong about this, but I thought the law says it's fine, and soldiers can shoot you if you are openly armed. Unarmed citizens are a huge warcrime. If you are openly carrying a rifle or pistol in public during wartime then you will be treated like the enemy, and no one will hesitate to shoot you.
 
Can't. Got banned for sayin pedos should be shot.
During the Rittenhouse stuff? Me too. The reddit administrators were in full force trying to ban Rittenhouse supporters.\

But it's important to note again REDDIT HAS SIDED WITH RUSSIA AS TO NOT BE BANNED IN RUSSIA, HENCE THEIR LACK OF SPOKEN SUPPORT FOR UKRAINE. How long must reddit do this fascist shit before the media reports on it?
 
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You only need some distinctly identifiable symbol. If the Ukrainians all wear yellow armbands and the Russians wear red ones, then that is it.

It's like one of those teams sports you used to play once in high school and then forget about. Except with guns, tanks and artillery.
Cool so armbands and automatic rifles and you have yourself an army. I always imagined there was more complexity to it.
 
I've heard all those swears from Russians. Are the languages that similar?
Yea extremely. Same alphabet. A lot of word crossovers. A little more similar than English is to Spanish. But a lot of Ukranians know Russian as well so he could of been straight up speaking Russian. I couldn't tell
 
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isn't there some rule in the Geneva convention that you just can't arm civilians in a war or something? They would need uniforms and insignias for this not to be a war crime, or am I wrong about that?
No, there are parts about who isn't and isn't a combatant. Taking up arms makes you a combatant.
 
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Cool so armbands and automatic rifles and you have yourself an army. I always imagined there was more complexity to it.
Well its not really a traditional army, its more of a
"if there's anybody left there that wants a free rifle and a couple grenades now's the time to get out of the bunker"
 
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That entire battalion. They have 4 anti-tank weapons in the entire battalion of 300 men.

Volkssturm at least had panzershercks for almost every man.
Thanks to German industrial might you got 2 + a bicycle!
 

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