Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Could the US / other NATO nations be supporting Ukraine with thing like drone strikes? That seems like the only plausible explanation for them (supposedly) destroying so many tanks/planes... Also yeah is most likely propoganda but it makes me wonder if something could be possible? Like a fuckton of nato controlled drones?

Just asking anyone more knowledgeable
No. NATO has not authorized military action in Ukraine. They're still holding meetings to hammer out their response atm.

Russian materiel losses are probably just bad planning. Putin doesn't want to use high-altitude bombers and risk turning the country into a smoldering ruin so he has to use precision strike aircraft which fly low and are easy to hit. Tanks also took too long to enter the battle. They should have been the first units into the country and them being so late has given Ukraine opportunity to dig in and deploy anti-tank weapons.
 
Absolutely shocking.

When it's your only idea it's always a a great idea. Seriously though i don't know what they expected with this.

I think we've seen enough virtue signaling and dumb takes about the situation from social media to make my comment warranted.

As for you - 29 messages over a few years. Defensive over sjws. Username about wanting to fuck little virgin boys....

We got ourselves a redditor here folks
So your response to me telling you to stop sperging about SJWs was to call me one. I don't post that often because I have better shit to do than scream autistically into the void.
 
For fuck sake, most of these folks don't in their or close to 30s... some of them look like conscripts in fancy outfits, even.
And these people are winning. The groups of pizduks. :story: Я охуеваю.
Seems like some Ukrainians in Kiev got too excited and started shooting their own guys.
No no no, you don't get it, they protect their home... from their own military forces to prevent futher conscription get en masse and push Zelensky to surrender. :suffering:
 
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2003 U.S. army is in the top 5 best armies in history.

It's so sad seeing the modern iteration of the U.S. army being overshadowed by previous iterations.

It used to be that modern armies were better than their predecessors but now it's the other way around.
The fuck are you talking about? Their gear is a generation ahead of where they were then.

Is it the diversity hire REMF dipshits? Those morons always existed. They can run the logistics train and push paper. Who cares. It doesn't mean shit for capability as a fighting force. They have some hardass senior NCO making sure they put down the dilator and drive the fucking truck when needed. They are the trained monkey part of the armed forces.
 


1/ sharing from a friend with a background in us intelligence My take so far: Russia is fighting a 1970s era war against a small but early 2000s era enemy.

2/ What I mean by 1970s: limited precision strikes, followed immediately multiple lines of armored advance (3 as Soviet doctrine commands, plus a 4th from the separatists who appear to be fighting alone).

3/ Offensive. Advances conducted by easiest routes possible - roadways - with avoidance of set battles en lieu of encirclements. Air assaults via helo/paratroopers to seize key C2 sites. Air Dominance if possible but not planned. This is Deep Strike War.

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15/ What can we learn from this? Russia is utterly incapable. Ukrainians resisted hybrid warfare and forced conventional conflict. Their doctrine does not fit modern warfare’s objectives. This is likely due to their limited material capabilities.

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18/ End game: Russia wins in a week or so but continues to face an insurgency, more virulent the longer the active phase of war goes on. Ukraine is forced to sign a Versailles style dearmament treaty and is forced into a Belarus-style vassal state situation.

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20/ Long term: The fucking French conventional army would mop the floor with Russia by the look of this. The Russians cannot fight a modern war and their bullying capability is limited, and would be ineffective against NATO’s air power alone -

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22/ This is a death-spasm, the fever breaking, and Russia’s decline is pretty much locked looking at this, simply from seeing how they fight. A US-Russian war would look like Iraq ‘91, both by overwhelming asymmetry and by multilateral coalition backing.

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^you can read the rest by clicking on the links, it's from a twitter account that looks to be dissident right-wing ish but the fact that it starts by "sharing from a friend with a background in us intelligence" is raising my eyebrows to the ceiling, wonder what the rest of you think?
LMFAO. 1970's war? WTF??

If this was the US invading Ukraine we'd have been treated to 2 straight weeks of shock and awe bombing. Flatten anything that could give so much as a hair parting. Then march in with light armor and call in airstrikes against any potato farmer that so much as farts in their direction. Keep doing it until reaching the capital and then declare victory while American media lie their arses off about minimal civilian casualties and how that school bus they blew up was in fact filled with suicide vest wearing terrorists who hate our freedoms. Once at the capital, being the retarded cunts they are, end up with a massive insurgency because governing is hard.

The Russians aren't doing any of that,. Why? Not being entitled psychopaths, they don't think murdering tens of thousands of innocent people is a good swap for even 1 dead Russian conscript. The fucking gall of the burgers man. The hubris. All of them need to swallow a giant shut the fuck up after what we saw them do in Iraq and Afghanistan and Lydia and Syria.
 
They say this is Kharkov right now but it seems a little too dark for that to be true.
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LMFAO. 1970's war? WTF??

If this was the US invading Ukraine we'd have been treated to 2 straight weeks of shock and awe bombing. Flatten anything that could give so much as a hair parting. Then march in with light armor and call in airstrikes against any potato farmer that so much as farts in their direction. Keep doing it until reaching the capital and then declare victory while American media lie their arses off about minimal civilian casualties and how that school bus they blew up was in fact filled with suicide vest wearing terrorists who hate our freedoms. Once at the capital, being the retarded cunts they are, end up with a massive insurgency because governing is hard.

The Russians aren't doing any of that,. Why? Not being entitled psychopaths, they don't think murdering tens of thousands of innocent people is a good swap for even 1 dead Russian conscript. The fucking gall of the burgers man. The hubris. All of them need to swallow a giant shut the fuck up after what we saw them do in Iraq and Afghanistan and Lydia and Syria.
consider this: sand niggers arent people so no one cares what we do to them
 
No. NATO has not authorized military action in Ukraine. They're still holding meetings to hammer out their response atm.

Russian materiel losses are probably just bad planning. Putin doesn't want to use high-altitude bombers and risk turning the country into a smoldering ruin so he has to use precision strike aircraft which fly low and are easy to hit. Tanks also took too long to enter the battle. They should have been the first units into the country and them being so late has given Ukraine opportunity to dig in and deploy anti-tank weapons.
Fair enough, makes sense! I was thinking more along the lines of some undercover shit, not necessarily though nato. It'd be a massive risk but tbh if russia said something along the lines of 'America unjustly attacked russia with with drone strikes, here's proof of one we took down', the western world wouldn't necessarily believe it (boy who cried wolf type shit)?
 
The fuck are you talking about? Their gear is a generation ahead of where they were then.

Is it the diversity hire REMF dipshits? Those morons always existed. They can run the logistics train and push paper. Who cares. It doesn't mean shit for capability as a fighting force. They have some hardass senior NCO making sure they put down the dilator and drive the fucking truck when needed. They are the trained monkey part of the armed forces.
Yeah..m not sure about that. They continue to have recruitment issues, they continue to drive out competent people for DIE reasons, they just forcibly retired a bunch of vets for not getting vaxxed and forced the remaining people to get vaxxed.

The navy has had multiple ships crash into each other over the years.

Idk if the military is in as bad a shape as I think it might be, but I know it isn't in as a good a shape as you think it is.
 
Bitch before ANYTHING goes anywhere near nuclear the US and Russia would have to be engaged in direct war, no gay ass proxy war in the middle east doesn't count and much less when the US troops are still in Poland just helping refugees trough the border.
And even then US and Russia would both prefer to leave nukes out of it because once the first nuke flies a thousand will follow, there would have to be a catastrophic cavalcade of fuck ups before any country considers nuclear warfare because the second you launch one you'll have the rest of the world targeting you with theirs.
Granted Biden is senile enough to give the order but there's several different independent people holding the keys that can just say "yeah no you're fucking stupid" and not launch them
Well ACKCHYUALLY, the President has the sole authority to order a nuclear strike, and nobody has the legal authority to stop him. In practice, however, somebody would take Biden out behind the woodshed if he tried.

... I hope.
 
Fair enough, makes sense! I was thinking more along the lines of some undercover shit, not necessarily though nato. It'd be a massive risk but tbh if russia said something along the lines of 'America unjustly attacked russia with with drone strikes, here's proof of one we took down', the western world wouldn't necessarily believe it (boy who cried wolf type shit)?
The amount of numbers the US would have to commit to make a difference would make the intervention an undeniable fact.
 
Fair enough, makes sense! I was thinking more along the lines of some undercover shit, not necessarily though nato. It'd be a massive risk but tbh if russia said something along the lines of 'America unjustly attacked russia with with drone strikes, here's proof of one we took down', the western world wouldn't necessarily believe it (boy who cried wolf type shit)?
There's no doubt that the CIA or Green Berets are playing Reindeer Games, or are about to.
 
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