Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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The 1930s BT tank never fails to make me smile.
If Russia used the BT-7 they would of reached Kiev by now.

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It’s better if they don’t go. A first world “volunteer” without training is just another mouth to feed (and will likely be dead soon).

true for overweight burgers no matter how many NIB guns they got in their safe.

Former USSR countries ... not so much. Civil defense classes, even a kid in Russia/Ukraine can take AK apart and put it back together. By the time you graduate from middle school you knew how to disable an incendiary bomb and could shoot an AK <- THRUTH
 
It is in America and the world's best interest to have the Ukraine stretch out the war and bleed Russia (at a large Ukraine cost). This is the outcome I am hoping for. Impose a cost of Russia for invading. They aren't going to tough it out for the long term, it isn't what they planned for and cannot afford it.
 
If the mobile crematorium is really a thing, I could imagine some sadistic soldiers putting captured troops in them for lulz on occasian.
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Here is a picture of such a mobile 'crematorium'
What do you think is in that bag? Russian soldiers first cutting the deceased into pieces, then bag them and then cremate them?
Yeah, I'd buy that (for a dollar)
 
It is in America and the world's best interest to have the Ukraine stretch out the war and bleed Russia (at a large Ukraine cost). This is the outcome I am hoping for. Impose a cost of Russia for invading. They aren't going to tough it out for the long term, it isn't what they planned for and cannot afford it.
I don't think the Russians or Ukranians give a shit about American or world interests.
 
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You can think Putin as an oligarchic asshole and still understand why he did this shit.
Yeah, except a lucid leader does not spend 50 minutes on Russian TV with...how should I localize this metaphor.

Imagine a drunken 70-year-old ranting about FDR's New Deal. Putin was that, except he literally regurgitated talking points about Ukrainians being an artificial nation and Ukraine - a non-existent state. Westerners of all leanings may not like us but we are an objective, existing fact and we weren't created by Lenin.
 
Multiple videos going around of Russian ICBMs being moved
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The Russians use a few varieties of these truck-mounted missile systems, and I can't get a solid ID on which one these are. Looks to be a battery of 3-4 launchers, and I'd suspect that this is the same unit in both videos, but don't take that as certain. All Russian mobile missile systems currently in service are capable of both conventional and nuclear attack, but lack the range to qualify as ICBMs. Most likely these are headed down to the Ukranian front to join in the cruise missile campaign.
 
The way this is playing out is peak US antagonism. Cause a problem, goad someone into a fight, blame them for it and come away the victor.

Bravo you crazy motherfuckers. I love Globohomo now!
yeah this is the USAs biggest issue; Biden purposely antagonised Putin and Putin called his bluff. It does not take a genius to realize that shitting on your most patriotic people and supporting looting niggers is not a way to support your country. At this point the only people that will be willing to join are GI bill grabbers (why do you think he won't forgive debt, you can use the GI bill to okay it off) and they tend to go into non-combat arms. The crap enlisted pay is not enough with current inflation. At best we see politicians telling is that focusing on race and not character is bad for reasons, when those reason are that whites make up the majority of combat arms and even the blacks that join tend to be more conservative
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Reminds me of that silly idea from Thomas Friedman about how if two Nations are developed enough to have a McDonald's they have too much to lose and won't fight. Man is driven by more than "rationality" and muh GDP.


"Look at these poor POC oppressed by white supremacists NAZIs!" *shows a picture of two slavs, indistinguishable from one another, fighting.
Honestly the bugmen/western mentality puts too much emphasis on GDP and not enough on national pride, which explains a lot
This is some brain dead shit. There was 0 chance of Ukraine joining NATO in the short or medium term. You have to have all settled borders and no disputes to join. The Crimea and other issues would have to be settled and that wasn't happening anytime soon. I can't believe how many people have globbed onto something that was obviously just Russia throwing out justifications when they were trying to figure out an excuse to turn Ukraine into a vassal.

Going to war with your neighbor just because they wanted to join a stupid club you're not a fan of is retarded.
The NATO thing was not something Russia should not have taken lightly. After all, if Canada or Mexico accepted missiles aimed at American cities we'd cry foul and yet we expect Russia to take it. Nations need to start telling the US to get their act together because the US advantage of rapid deployment means nothing if the population is demoralized
 
true for overweight burgers no matter how many NIB guns they got in their safe.

Former USSR countries ... not so much. Civil defense classes, even a kid in Russia/Ukraine can take AK apart and put it back together. By the time you graduate from middle school you knew how to disable an incendiary bomb and could shoot an AK <- THRUTH
Sadly I meant exactly overweight Americans and enthusiastic Europeans who could easily lose their nerves since they don’t have a shred of militaristic culture or preparation.
 
You don't need to be a russophile to know that fucking around in a militarily powerful countries' backyard is simply an invitation to start shit. China certainly would chimp out if say, Vietnam was being used to stage ICBMs, or making overtures to an overt anti-Chinese alliance. Or if Norks coming to their senses and starting to make overtures to join the South Koreans. (Actually now that I think about it Ukrainians are the equivalent of North Korea in this case.)

Does it suck? Absolutely. Understandable? Also yes. You can think Putin as an oligarchic asshole and still understand why he did this shit.
He doesn't support gay pride
 
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