Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[GuntPunt]

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Help please some explain this take for me , i understand it that cody sees a ceasefire as a loss for russia or maybe not ?

>Russia gets what they want
>They lose

Are you sure he's not referencing the Canadian Truckers? Using obvious Trudeau-isms is a dead giveaway.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

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Help please some explain this take for me , i understand it that cody sees a ceasefire as a loss for russia or maybe not ?

The neutral status with security guarentees is what putin asked for when he brought up talks earlier on, it would be a win for russia. Russia wants Ukraine but if it can't get it, they will settle for Eastern Ukraine. If they can't get that, they want to make sure Ukraine will be neutral and NATO won't be an issue.

 

[BradCarter]

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Damn it, now I feel like staying up for the night to see what happens.

Well it's midnight there. So he either means within 4 hours or like 20 hours

 

[Vince McMahon]

Guys can we please stop poking the oversensitive spergs when the siege of Kiev starts? It would be nice to lower the ratio of dumb shit to actual information

Filter people, you don't want to see posts from, if you're so concerned with actual information. Better yet, actually make a feed info to observe outside of the forum and let this place be used according to its' name:

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[Cloaca Rimjob]

If only other Europeans showed this much resistance to people invading their country ... oh hello officer what!? Unhand me!! Right that this instant!!!!

 

[Very_sad_man]

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[Disheveled Human]

Russian troops have captured a position in Mariupol from the veteran Ukrainian 53rd Brigade.

And, surprise. surprise, apparently they found a "Right Sector" (Ukrainian Far-Right group) hideout right under the Ukrainian positions in a literal basement. Apparently, the right sector guys just left their flags, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. -esque patches and literal membership cards lying around in there.

To me, this seems way too convenient to be anything but a Russian glowop to justify their narrative on the Ukranians.

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The funny thing is it all looks brand new like no wrinkles or scuffs. Looks like it was bought straight off the store rack lol.

 

[Stoneheart]

yes, but that doesn't make Putin's point that Ukraine has a Nazi problem any less true.

Its not a problem, their kike president is the problem...

 

[BiggerChungus]

the waffen ss and wehrmacht had divisions from basically all soviet occupied nations, and most other european countries as well, including russia itself, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army

turns out that spending most of the 1930s brutalizing and massacring his subjects made stalins state extremely unpopular with a lot of people, there was no shortage of men willing to take up arms against the ussr when given the opportunity, anywhere

Contrary to popular opinion a ton of people on the Eastern Front saw the Germans as liberators, stark contrast to the response the Soviets got once they got into East Germany and raped their way to Berlin.

 

[BeautifulCancer]

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Just say that half of Melitopol is under Russian control, ffs

 

[Puff]

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Trudeau cutting people off from banks. Shocking.
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Russian troops have captured a position in Mariupol from the veteran Ukrainian 53rd Brigade.

And, surprise. surprise, apparently they found a "Right Sector" (Ukrainian Far-Right group) hideout right under the Ukrainian positions in a literal basement. Apparently, the right sector guys just left their flags, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. -esque patches and literal membership cards lying around in there.

To me, this seems way too convenient to be anything but a Russian glowop to justify their narrative on the Ukranians.

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Why would nazis have an anarcho- communist flag?

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

The Russians aren't massacring entire villages like the Irgun and Stern gang.

I had to Google that.

I’m glad I did. There are some amazing tits to look at on that page.

 

[Strix454]

I know this could be entirely Russian glow niggers disinfo, but what's the supposed origin of Ukraine being shock full of Nazis?

During World War II, the Germans successfully recruited a military force of Ukrainians. They were initially the OUN. But later were the UPA (Ukrayins'ka Povstans'ka Armiya).
The UPA continued to fight against Communist Poland and the USSR until the early 1950s. These Ukranians fought as nationalists against the Soviet Union. Most of them
I think came from the western half of Ukraine. Some of the membership was fascist in its outlook and some of the membership had continued sympathy for the old nazi regime.

Some of them had an unfortunate tendency whenever their was a revolution in Ukraine to get out their old gear or to show their loyalty to stuff from the old days. It had
bad optics and the soviets used it for propaganda. Ukrainian governments also tend to humor people sympathetic to these groups more than they should. The worst
example in modern times was the so-called "Azov Battalion" which became a military home in Ukraine for political fanatics.

The whole issues of "nazis" is basically a historical shout-out to what the Russians saw as Ukranian treason during world war II and the inter-Ukranian feuds between
the eastern Ukraine (pro-Russian) and Western Ukraine (anti-Russian). Its a historical feud that has not that much to do with how Ukraine is governed today.

Ukraine isn't shock full of Nazis. But it self-destructively does alot of things that look bad and pays a whole lot more respect to certain extremists (like the Azov Battalion)
than it should.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Its not a problem, their kike president is the problem...

From the chatter Russia has some tribunals in mind for him as well. Don't think it well end well for the clown.

 

[LUNEKO]

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Trudeau fighting harder for the right to self govern of Ukranians while taking away his peoples right to

 

[Oxous]

Yes. Raven Rock and the like.

Oh, for you? LOL. No.

All joking aside.

Lots of info in the streams that are out (And a BIG reason Russia doesn't want video of this coming out).

It looks like, once again, the Russian military turned out to be just like last time. Poorly equipped, poorly trained, poorly supported, with garbage tier leaders.

Just like everyone else.

Those fucking tanks are goddamn sad.

Tactics so far have looked like shit from the 1950's.

Battle rattle carried by Russian troops looks like some shit at a paintball range.

NVG's are seriously behind in tech and aren't in large numbers. Looks like they're sticking with their vehicle mounted shit, which means no night convoys without being lit the fuck up.

Land Nav looks like it still isn't taught to anyone but officers who, being officers, probably get lost between the shower and the toilet and shit on the floor.

Weapon accuracy is for shit. Looks like they blast a mag and then stand there looking at their rifle going "hurr..." That's not a sign of good range training. I wonder how many of these guys have picked up their rifle before.

We're also seeing their PGM's aren't as accurate and plentiful as we thought. (I swear to God sometimes it's like America wants to put PGM into grenades and MRE's)

Still, interesting watching this shit.

From the estimations that Russia would roll Ukraine like it was 1992 or 2003.

Another point is: They haven't trained for this shit and their experience in Syria isn't helping them.

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Note: A draft isn't happening. If you want to get out of it, just tell them at the draft board that you will not take orders from subhumans, devaints, perverts, and Jews. Do a short rant about niggers and faggots. You'll be back home in no time.

One thing I'd keep an eye out for is how the Russians' logistics chains are holding up. It's just rumors right now but some Ukrainians have started claiming that a group or two of tanks/vehicles ran out of gas and had to ask the locals for some.

 

[BiggerChungus]

From the chatter Russia has some tribunals in mind for him as well. Don't think it well end well for the clown.

Pretty sure him openly encouraging nonmilitary civilians to take up guns and fight, and saying he'll arm all citizens "regardless of age" to go and attack Russian forces, is legally a war crime.

 

[Calvin Coolidge]

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Damn it, now I feel like staying up for the night to see what happens.

He's been saying that since Wednesday, I thought.

 

[Toothpaste]

Ukrainians playing the national anthem on a trumpet before the Russian attack.

 

[No. 7 cat]

Putin knew this shit was coming. He's not stupid. I'm pretty sure he had shit exactly like this in mind when he decided to go ahead and do it anyway. I don't think he's going to react irrationally to stuff he deliberately set in motion. Just according to keikaku.

I am increasingly embarrassed as an American that this weasel-faced KGB fuck has played every President since and including Dubya like a goddamn fiddle.

I don't even know what the fuck he actually wants, which is how he likes it, but I'd be willing to bet that whatever scheme he has in mind and whatever benefit he wants, he'll get it. That fucker.

Kicking Russia off SWIFT might just hurt countries who need Russian gas and titanium (aerospace, medical etc.), as I and many surely have said. The West has a plague of urban bugmen, so I wonder if Russia might last out this sort of thing better, gopniks aren't too soft, dunno. Anyhow the sanctions include kicking Russia from Eurovision and Russia-Ukraine club int matches on neutral ground, ie nothing much but meme shit.