Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[LaxerBRO]

Sanctions are essentially the equivalent of Winrar asking you to buy their software at this point.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

That's something that's been puzzling us daywalkers a bit. The obvious explanation is that the Russian military is more professional and has less to gain from blatant propagandizing, but that doesn't entirely jive with what we've been seeing. The Ukrop numbers are obviously inflated, but there's been too many verified examples of Russian forces getting hit badly, captured, etc to discount them all as fake nooz. It's very likely that the Russian military has experienced more setbacks than it was initially expecting. Nothing catastrophic, but not good enough for a side that clearly has the upper hand to brag about, so they're being quiet.

It should be noted that yesterday we had a decent number of clips from regular gopniki-at-arms and that we had very little today. Make of that what you will.

The mercifully low number of civilian casualties so far says they're making an effort to keep this as bloodless as possible, they could've just carpet bombed Kiev if they wanted to. They're trying to minimize the collateral damage, not because Putin is a nice guy, but because Russian atrocities being all over the news would hurt them.

It'd make it more likely Nato gets involved, put pressure on China to DISAVOW, and probably be extremely unpopular in Russia itself since they see Ukraine as their dorky little brother, not a hated enemy.

Quite likely their shock and awe didn't soften the Ukies up as much as they hoped and the resistance is effective in some places. Russia has kept plenty in reserve tho (again, suggesting they're hoping for a clean victory) so the final outcome isn't in doubt unfortunately.

 

[draggs]

Everything you're saying its unbelievably retarded. The Navy its basically ignoring the existence of chinese ASML during exercises because if they don't they they lose an entire fleet in less than an hour.

Yes its all chang lies, everything, they been lying all the time. World's #2 economy? all lies, all made up, when you go to china its just a goat with a old timey chinese hat, the country doesn't even exist at all the maps are wrong everything is fake.

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you scoffing at the universally accepted fact that China lies like Ananias about their economy really bolsters your credibility

yeah the Navy ignores chinese anti-ship missiles in its wargames despite every wargame headline of the last 5 years screaming "US NAVY GETS SHIT KICKED OUT OF IT IN WARGAMES BECAUSE CHINESE MISSILES"

little secret, the wargames are always based on a set of assumptions made beforehand that would never actually happen in a war

like

setting the condition that the entire US military network gets shut down so the entire US military is back at WW2 levels of communications and information gathering, sharing, and analysis

or

deciding that every single chink missile strike on single ships or groups of ships or the airbases on Guam or Wake or Japan goes off perfectly for China

or

positing that China has perfect intel about where to find US ships and has perfect assembly of forces in range to attack them all

or

All of the above plus more

in a real war things do not actually happen like that

if wars were won paper

 

[WaveBreak]

Genius Insight

thank you, some people tend to forget this

 

[ShoFuKan]

@cybertoaster

https://twitter.com/aIIegoricaI/status/1497195833237905408

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

I've got to admit, I didn't think that Putin was actually going to go ahead with the invasion a few days ago, back when the tensions were just starting to erupt.

I still think that this is going to massively backfire for Russia, even if the Russians do manage to annex Ukraine and turn it into a puppet state. The Ukrainians are not going to surrender easily, and this could quite easily turn into an Afghanistan situation right on Russia's doorstep.

Putin may be an autocrat, but he cannot completely ignore public opinion. There are already signs that the Russian people do not want this war, and when the casualties begin to become visible, it could put the current Russian leadership in a very precarious position indeed, especially given the current economic situation in Russia. I just hope that too many people don't have to lose their lives before we finally start to see some positive change in this part of the world.

Am I the only one who feels like we've been long overdue for a war? As tragic as literally everyone who has empathy or morality says this is I honestly feel like we needed a semi- important war for a while to... I dunno shake off some of this generations stupidity? I don't fucking know all I feel right now is that this war is a breath of fresh air for the first time in years.

It's easy for you to post glib nonsense like this when you're not the one being directly affected by it, let alone doing the actual fighting. The actual fact of the matter is that war is hell, and it is inherently socially regressive in it's effects, because it invariably involves poor, young men suffering and dying for the benefit of rich, powerful, old men, and it was forever thus.

Potentially thousands of people are going to die because this conflict; that's thousands of families who are going to be missing fathers, brothers, sons, cousins, and uncles, and it's a personal loss which will be mourned profoundly by these people for the rest of their lives. Do not forget that.

 

[BradCarter]

I have to believe that not all of the Ukrainian dick waving is fake news. I remember reading that even in the cakewalk invasion of Georgia back in '08 that the Russian staff concluded that soldier for soldier, the Georgians had better adaptability and outfought them. That was a small, NATO and US trained former Soviet army on the defense on home ground, so if they faced a similar, larger army, the same result is probably what they're getting.
But I would say the Russians probably learned from Georgia, considering like 200 generals got ousted and there was a huge overhaul in the military after 2008. But if they still haven't worked out all the kinks, its the same problems they're facing, along with a bigger and better air force and air defense corps to deal with.

Yea there's probably a kernel of truth to it. That's why I (and I assume others) keep posting the stats Ukraine releases. But there's absolutely no way to verify it. Even for Ukraine unless there's a Russian counting bodies and calling up Kiev to say "Good sport lad, you killed 25 spetnaz that last artillery barrage".

 

[Ita Mori]

If there was still any doubt about the Russian-Chinese alliance:
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Amerimutts went from Alphachads to Cuckniggers in just 3 generations...

Sad!

 

[The Periodic Gamer]

Reverse image search isn't pulling anything up for this, so it's good enough for me.

Claims to be taken 24 hours apart.

Kino if true

 

[Shittus Maximus]

>UN vote
>11 for
>1 against
>somehow veto'd
???

Russia has veto power via being one of the founders of the UN.

 

[Reddit Gold]

you scoffing at the universally accepted fact that China lies like Ananias about their economy really bolsters your credibility

yeah the Navy ignores chinese anti-ship missiles in its wargames despite every wargame headline of the last 5 years screaming "US NAVY GETS SHIT KICKED OUT OF IT IN WARGAMES BECAUSE CHINESE MISSILES"

little secret, the wargames are always based on a set of assumptions made beforehand that would never actually happen in a war

like

setting the condition that the entire US military network gets shut down so the entire US military is back at WW2 levels of communications and information gathering, sharing, and analysis

or

deciding that every single chink missile strike on single ships or groups of ships or Guam or Wake goes off perfectly for China

or

positing that China has perfect intel about where to find US ships and has perfect assembly of forces in range to attack them all

or

All of the above plus more

in a real war things do not actually happen like that

if wars were won paper :study:

Did you know that China wins in America's own war game simulations? Adjusted for inflation they are already close to US's military spending.

 

[Nall]

Wait, so Russia rigged the USA elections in Trumps favor? And Trump is sympathetic to Russia?? Why didn't they rig the 2020 elections, considering they were invading Ukraine in 2022??? Its almost like Russia had nothing to do with the elections!

 

[Fcret]

The mercifully low number of civilian casualties so far says they're making an effort to keep this as bloodless as possible, they could've just carpet bombed Kiev if they wanted to. They're trying to minimize the collateral damage, not because Putin is a nice guy, but because Russian atrocities being all over the news would hurt them.

This and they also don't want to foot the bill for rebuilding Ukraine from the ground up. They need the territory to be usable and that requires most of the infra to remain intact.

 

[Groundbreaking-maize]

Wait, so Russia rigged the USA elections in Trumps favor? And Trump is sympathetic to Russia?? Why didn't they rig the 2020 elections, considering they were invading Ukraine in 2022??? Its almost like Russia had nothing to do with the elections!

Yeah the whole facebook thing. You should look it up someday.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

It would be interesting to see the Western response if he uses nerve gas on Ukraine.

That would be phenomenally bad.

Holy shit, I cannot stress how bad that would be.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

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On a long enough timeline everyone pays for WinRAR.

But seriously buy a license they're swell and you've used it for 20 years you bastard.

 

[Stoneheart]

Potentially thousands of people are going to die because this conflict; that's thousands of families who are going to be missing fathers, brothers, sons, cousins, and uncles, and it's a personal loss which will be mourned profoundly by these people for the rest of their lives. Do not forget that.

when i was tiny i had a rabbit that ate her children. she never cried about it and she was closer to a human than a slav, she could do little tricks on command....

 

[Hüftpriester]

It's not conspiracy theories, it's my mangled brain's attempts to simplify how things just don't go my way all the time.
Also, Obama controls Qanon from behind the scenes, setting the stage for his third term as president for life. That's three lifetimes right there.

There's much shorter ways of writing 'I am a faggot'

Stop shitting up the thread

 

[Very_sad_man]

Bridge that links Odessa with Mykolaiv has been heavily damaged. Geolocated. The E-58 bridge in Koshary that connects Odessa with Mykolaiv is heavily damaged. (some people in comments dispute that so idk)

twitter

 

[Wrestlemania]

Do any of these UN faggots know how to silence their phones? Christ.

No, but you bet they are going to get their very important emails and telegrams