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Odd story hit The_Donald. Apparently Biden is demanding the Ukraine stop trying to negotiate with Russia, instead demanding that they negotiate with the Biden admin to negotiate with Putin on their behalf.

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Because Zelenskyy is a puppet ruler installed by the Uniparty, and a vassal state trying to do diplomacy without the approval of their lord is unacceptable.
 
Odd story hit The_Donald. Apparently Biden is demanding the Ukraine stop trying to negotiate with Russia, instead demanding that they negotiate with the Biden admin to negotiate with Putin on their behalf.

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Because Zelenskyy is a puppet ruler installed by the Uniparty, and a vassal state trying to do diplomacy without the approval of their lord is unacceptable.
Lol. Isnt this strengthening the Russian claims that Zelensky is a uniparty vassal and thus this operation is justified because Moscow doesnt fuck around with leaders that arent their puppets on their doorstep.
 
Odd story hit The_Donald. Apparently Biden is demanding the Ukraine stop trying to negotiate with Russia, instead demanding that they negotiate with the Biden admin to negotiate with Putin on their behalf.

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Because Zelenskyy is a puppet ruler installed by the Uniparty, and a vassal state trying to do diplomacy without the approval of their lord is unacceptable.
Oh man this is some shit the Romans used to do with their client kingdoms, main difference is that they actually protected them.
 

Didn't they already investigate Trump for 4 years, and despite the fraud dossier they used to start the investigation, and the illegal wiretaps, they still found nothing? They had practically the entire Western world working together to try to tie him to Russia and they still couldn't find anything. Why are they still posting clues that are supposed 'gotchas'?
 
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Didn't they already investigate Trump for 4 years, and despite the fraud dossier they used to start the investigation, and the illegal wiretaps, they still found nothing? They had practically the entire Western world working together to try to tie him to Russia and they still couldn't find anything. Why are they still posting clues that are supposed 'gotchas'?
The programming runs far too deep. If they even once accept that Orange Man wasn't nearly as bad as they said he was, they might actually have to reassess their opinions on his entire presidency. The last thing any of these fucks ever want to admit is that they were wrong, so they double and triple and quadruple down on the same old tired narratives to keep reassuring themselves that they're the Good Guys on the Right Side of History.

Simple logic would dictate that if the myriad of investigations over several years failed to produce anything concrete that showed that Trump was mega ultra turbo Hitler, then there was probably never anything there to begin with. But it's safer for their feelings to assume the much less likely option that the evidence is there, they just need to keep digging. And then they have the gall to mock Qtards despite both groups being unhinged crazies, with the only difference being Qtards aren't in the Deep State abusing their power to harass their political enemies.

It's all so tiresome.
 
Look at how much mileage the Obama administration and Democrats in general got out of saying, "But Bush." The administration would take flak for underperformance on some metric and they'd say, "But Bush did this, But Bush did that." It had its limits, eventually people expect the political party in power to produce results, not excuses, and the midterm was a drubbing, yet the But Bush thing was a great tactic for the democrats for 8 years.

They're already saying Russia wouldn't have its military in Ukraine if it weren't for Trump weakening America, inflation, COVID, etc. Anything they can blame Donald Trump for, they're doing it with gusto.
The Trump Derangement Syndrome is so severe with so many people. I believe we're going to be 20+ years out from the split congress for half the term, investigated out the wazoo, spied on, double-impeached and thoroughly sabotaged Trump administration with Donald Trump long dead and tens of millions of people will be blaming it on how Donald Trump "weakened America"

"This bad thing happening in 2043 wouldn't have happened if Donald Trump hadn't weakened us."
They'll be butt-trumpeting until they're all dead.
 
Bill Maher's new rules segment tonight was telling Democrats to let it go, as a way for Republicans to become cucks again as well as using proof by McConnell and Pence that Republicans condemned Trump for the 1/6 boomer rush.
NGL that would be a smart move, Bill's been going hardcore conservative on Covid and free speech, the war would be a great intermission to focus on while they erase covid from people's memories. Bill honestly just wants what every adult wants, for the overton window to go back to where it was when they were cool edgy far leftists.
 
"War with Russia is good because it keeps Blumpf out of the White House. I'm totes serious, y'all!"
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1) He accepted a soccerball microchipped by Putin? Even assuming that did happen (note : I actually don't find this implausible given a story I read about how either some US Ambassador or State official received a "gift" from the Soviets that was bugged), how could that have been useful to the Russians? Seriously. For all I know Trump gave the ball to Barron, and told him to have fun. Real freaking useful.
 
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1) He accepted a soccerball microchipped by Putin? Even assuming that did happen (note : I actually don't find this implausible given a story I read about how either some US Ambassador or State official received a "gift" from the Soviets that was bugged), how could that have been useful to the Russians? Seriously. For all I know Trump gave the ball to Barron, and told him to have fun. Real freaking useful.
In 1950, the Soviets presented a hand carved seal of the US to the Embassy that was bugged. From what I recall, the CIA found out about that fairly quickly.
 
1) He accepted a soccerball microchipped by Putin? Even assuming that did happen (note : I actually don't find this implausible given a story I read about how either some US Ambassador or State official received a "gift" from the Soviets that was bugged), how could that have been useful to the Russians? Seriously. For all I know Trump gave the ball to Barron, and told him to have fun. Real freaking useful.
Putin knows Trump is a massive soccer fan and would take it everywhere he went. What Putin failed to account for was getting the data out of the soccer ball and Trump was always too busy for a quick game on the White House pitch.
 
Odd story hit The_Donald. Apparently Biden is demanding the Ukraine stop trying to negotiate with Russia, instead demanding that they negotiate with the Biden admin to negotiate with Putin on their behalf.
"Hey, stop that you guys, you don't know what you're doing! You should consult me first and then I'll be your messenger, even though I was the one that fucked you guys over to begin with."

FUUUUUUUUCK this old fart and his entire admin.
 
"Hey, stop that you guys, you don't know what you're doing! You should consult me first and then I'll be your messenger, even though I was the one that fucked you guys over to begin with."

FUUUUUUUUCK this old fart and his entire admin.
Well look at it from his point of view. He can't steal the credit if they don't loop him in.
 
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