Grand Jury speculation thread

[A Grey Cat]

It's highly likely Greene County has been waiting a long time for any such opportunity to finally resolve the Chandler situation. Chris hasn't been in jail for the past half year because he fucked his mom. He's been locked up that long because he's Chris. The court did consider bailing him out, remember, but then thought better of it.

The court was legally required to give him one chance to give them a good reason to post bond, but even though it's speculated Chris sperging about how "I'm famous on the internet," and how he wouldn't feel safe proceeding until he went back for his toys. They took one look at him in full sonichu shirt and tranny garb and thought "fuck it let regional have him for as long as possible."

Granted his screeching at the judge and even having an " IT'S MA'AM!" momment just cause the da used male pronouns at him didn't help either.

 

[Pappy Striderite]

They're OK with that because each fantasizes they'll be the ones running the gulags.

word. every time they say "that wasn't -real- communism!" their internal monologue finishes with "I'll do it right."

 

[I swear she's 18]

word. every time they say "that wasn't -real- communism!" their internal monologue finishes with "I'll do it right."

Even if they managed to somehow get an authoritarian role like chief of police. Do they not know most communist and dictator governments purge their ranks every so often, or even if their leaders find other more favorable yes men, they'll be purged with no remorse? Seriously these people are just living in their make believe world to compensate.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Even if they managed to somehow get an authoritarian role like chief of police. Do they not know most communist and dictator governments purge their ranks every so often, or even if their leaders find other more favorable yes men, they'll be purged with no remorse? Seriously these people are just living in their make believe world to compensate.

I mean apparently Chris had a peaceful transition of power of the office of mayor to Mary Lee Walsh, so it seems there is a clear path for enemies of the state to be rehabilitated.

 

[Asdfgunman81]

I called the courthouse. The next hearing is
July 28

Good lord, that's a bit of a wait to drop the gavel on his head. Why this particular date though?

 

[Ophelia]

Do they not know

If they knew anything, they wouldn’t be communists.

 

[Exceptional Chimp]

How is it two states in the North do not criminalize consensual incest (and in one state technically underaged no less) but fucking Virginia has locked Chris up for almost a year for fucking his own mom?

You don't need to tell Yankies that incest is bad. Only the threat of prison keeps family trees from being parallel vertical lines down where the banjos play.

Deliverance was a documentary.

 

[BigTubboWithLittleChina]

Good lord, that's a bit of a wait to drop the gavel on his head. Why this particular date though?

As has been speculated on here (pretty reasonably), it's pretty much a year to the day that Chris was thrown in the slammer. It would make a neat point to let him out under time served, if everything else has been resolved.

 

[A Grey Cat]

You don't need to tell Yankies that incest is bad. Only the threat of prison keeps family trees from being parallel vertical lines down where the banjos play.

Deliverance was a documentary.

I find it funny how us Yankies either don't criminalize incest or in some cases are pushing for legalization of it. Then again progressives up north want every act of sexual deviancy legalized.

Sorry if I went into moa head territory with that but my point is. Chris doesn't belong among the bible thumpers and conservatives of the south. He's an autistic, troon, sexual deviant, without a shred of shame left in him. He should have copied Cole and moved Barb up here if he wanted to pork her.

 

[A-№1]

The court was legally required to give him one chance to give them a good reason to post bond, but even though it's speculated Chris sperging about how "I'm famous on the internet," and how he wouldn't feel safe proceeding until he went back for his toys. They took one look at him in full sonichu shirt and tranny garb and thought "fuck it let regional have him for as long as possible."

Usually the court WANTS people to post bail. I know of a few cases where bail was initially set pretty high, but over time they kept reducing it and reducing it until they were willing to settle for zero dollars if only someone (anyone) would accept responsibility for the accused.

That hasn't happened with Chris. He's not in jail without bail because of anything he did or said at the trial. He's still in jail because they literally have nowhere else to put him, and it would only create more work for them if they cut him loose. Nobody willing to accept responsibility for Chris (i.e. weens) is actually capable of being responsible for Chris.

word. every time they say "that wasn't -real- communism!" their internal monologue finishes with "I'll do it right."

And it always ends in mass graves. Often it starts there.

He should have copied Cole and moved Barb up here if he wanted to pork her.

Or he could have copied Cole and not fucked his mother. Failing that, he could have simply kept his mouth shut.

Even had Chris gone to the effort of crossing the Mason Dixon, he would have found some other way to fuck up. Maybe doing something less disgusting, but maybe worse. Chris gonna Chris.

 

[Lancelot]

There never was any such point.

The only way Chris would EVER turn his life around would require he first recognize his own flaws and work (hard) to correct them. Chris will never do that. Evidence: when he gets arrested for fucking and stealing from his own mother, does he admit that was wrong? No. What does Chris do instead? He declares himself God.

I really think otherwise. First of all I understand the major issue that exists in someone being retardedand then that being used as a crux. I remember a story about a dude with down syndrome who owned a restaurant and did reasonably well at running it with his staff. That said I am going to have to look at the details behind someones situation and the nature of their issues before I just make a flat judgement in regards to what degree they are inhibited by said retardation.

Two I specifically think chris likely could have turned out differently; but it would have required intervention far earlier in his life. Even with non retards there are core periods of development that matter in helping to direct peoples personalities as well as their discipline. 7 to 13 for example are particularly important formative years in raising someone. I believe it has to do with some middle ground in brain development, memory, and amount of influence one allocates towards adults in their life.

Regardless In chris's case I still think he probably could have changed all the way up into his mid 20s . Autists are particularly prone to suggestion and chris chan more than normal. If FORCED to do something he will ultimately do it and did so until bob died. The issue is bob never really did anything with that influence. Had bob forced chris to have a job, monitored his internet usage , gave rigid guidelines on how to behave around others and particularly women; and forced him to maintain certain routines of cleanliness. I truly suspect that over the 10 years from 2000 to 2010 he could have had enough of an effect that chris chan would be unrecognisable from what he ultimately is today.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Fun fact about Chris's hearing date: it'll be on a lot of anniversaries for a lot of movies, Not that Chris will be seeing many movies after the 28th.

 

[Lancelot]

Except symbiotic systems are mutual. They provide something back. Socialist systems do not. They only consume. They also always expand to overwhelm the host, maybe slowly enough at first that the market economy can expand to keep up, but their expansion is exponential and thus inevitably results in malthusian style failure and collapse.

Also, "fiscally responsible"? Socialism is inherently irresponsible. The socialist believes others are responsible for his physical and financial well being, not himself.

It always stuns me how many self professed socialists arent themselves aware of what socialism is. Socialism by definition is collective ownership of the means of production. Now yes in practice almost every example of "socialist " countries will still have some degree of "private sector " but you do get to a point where that caveat becomes so silly that its pointless

For example cuba is almost 80 percent publically run. In order to run a "private " business it has to be in a specifically allowed industry and you must then apply for a license . You arent allowed to own property outside of residential property that they just started to allow in 2019. All of this because it is a socialist country that has been in an economic disaster for decades. No element of this is a market economy.

I would mention venezuela as well but we have no up to date information on the venezuelan economy. Particularly after chavez spent a decade going industry by industry on a spree of nationalisations.

 

[Guinan's hats]

I love learning about the shit undergrads talk about in poli sci 101 classes, but while i'm trying to read about chris chan.

 

[Ophelia]

Regardless In chris's case I still think he probably could have changed all the way up into his mid 20s . Autists are particularly prone to suggestion and chris chan more than normal. If FORCED to do something he will ultimately do it and did so until bob died. The issue is bob never really did anything with that influence. Had bob forced chris to have a job, monitored his internet usage , gave rigid guidelines on how to behave around others and particularly women; and forced him to maintain certain routines of cleanliness. I truly suspect that over the 10 years from 2000 to 2010 he could have had enough of an effect that chris chan would be unrecognisable from what he ultimately is today.

That sounds exhausting for someone in their prime and impossible for someone as old as Bob, especially with an uncooperative wife undermining his efforts. I think Chris could have got off this track he’s on during the first ten years of his life, but the entitlement Barb infused him with had taken too strong of a hold by the time he was twenty. For example, thanks to this attitude, he firmly believes he is too good to work, and has for decades.

 

[SpeedBaller]

I know relatively little about the law, but if Fatso serves one year and a day doesn't that make him a Felon? If I had to guess the reason they scheduled the court so close to his 1 year in jail anniversary is because they are questioning whether or not his crime is felonious, because if they extend past that date he will become a Felon. I think the continuance to this date is symbolic and important and probably a tactic so that he serves the most time possible without becoming a Felon unless more evidence comes up incriminating him further.

 

[I swear she's 18]

I really think otherwise. First of all I understand the major issue that exists in someone being retardedand then that being used as a crux. I remember a story about a dude with down syndrome who owned a restaurant and did reasonably well at running it with his staff. That said I am going to have to look at the details behind someones situation and the nature of their issues before I just make a flat judgement in regards to what degree they are inhibited by said retardation.

Two I specifically think chris likely could have turned out differently; but it would have required intervention far earlier in his life. Even with non retards there are core periods of development that matter in helping to direct peoples personalities as well as their discipline. 7 to 13 for example are particularly important formative years in raising someone. I believe it has to do with some middle ground in brain development, memory, and amount of influence one allocates towards adults in their life.

Regardless In chris's case I still think he probably could have changed all the way up into his mid 20s . Autists are particularly prone to suggestion and chris chan more than normal. If FORCED to do something he will ultimately do it and did so until bob died. The issue is bob never really did anything with that influence. Had bob forced chris to have a job, monitored his internet usage , gave rigid guidelines on how to behave around others and particularly women; and forced him to maintain certain routines of cleanliness. I truly suspect that over the 10 years from 2000 to 2010 he could have had enough of an effect that chris chan would be unrecognisable from what he ultimately is today.

Nope. Chris would still be the same narcissistic attention whore egotist he is today. It's all due thanks to Barb. Why I say this? Because look at Cole Smithy. He's normal, escaped, and understands Barb is a terrible person. Yet you see the same traits. He's also a narcissistic attention whore egotist who's a contrarian solely for said attention. Really brings up a good cause of nature vs nurture.

Bob did his hardest, but people keep forgetting Bob was 54 when he had Chris. Most times the elderly don't have the will or strength to raise kids. An autistic child requires even more attention and willpower to properly raise them. Try as Bob might, it's all for naught because Barb's a little bitch who got what she deserved (let's be honest I have no sympathy unless it's charged as rape. Barb has always been too intimately physical with Chris. Even spooning with him after Bob's death. Hell she could've wanted for all we know) so fuck her.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

He's not in jail without bail because of anything he did or said at the trial.

Sort of. Technically he was denied bail because when he was asked to present a plan for his release, he instead demanded to get his toys and basically refused to answer the question until he got them.

Of course the reason he's still in jail and Heilberg didn't get him out a few days later at a new bond hearing is probably exactly as you said, nobody can actually come up with a good plan for what to do with him. Heilberg could possibly work out a plan where Chris goes to a homeless shelter as his contact address, but that would probably end in disaster, so he knows that jail is the best option for Chris.

I know relatively little about the law, but if Fatso serves one year and a day doesn't that make him a Felon? If I had to guess the reason they scheduled the court so close to his 1 year in jail anniversary is because they are questioning whether or not his crime is felonious, because if they extend past that date he will become a Felon. I think the continuance to this date is symbolic and important and probably a tactic so that he serves the most time possible without becoming a Felon unless more evidence comes up incriminating him further.

No. You're only a felon if you're sentenced to more than one year for a single crime. If you receive consecutive sentences for two or more misdemeanors that total up to more than a year (rare, but it happens), you are still not a felon. If you stay in jail for over a year awaiting trial but then eventually only receive misdemeanor convictions (say you plead down from a felony, or somehow beat all the felony charges at trial but still get convicted of a misdemeanor), you are not a felon.

 

[Pappy Striderite]

I love learning about the shit undergrads talk about in poli sci 101 classes, but while i'm trying to read about chris chan.

yer right. sorry. we get bored with purely chris chan chatter n shit drifts. it's kinda human too. natural. straying shows we aren't laser focused autistics.

now if you'd prefer draconian law keeping things on topic...
i know a subreddit...
lol

 

[A-№1]

First of all I understand the major issue that exists in someone being retarded

Chris being an lazy entitled arrogant asshole with an infinite sense of his own infallibility has nothing to do with mental retardation.

Two I specifically think chris likely could have turned out differently; but it would have required intervention far earlier in his life.

Chris is where he is as a direct result of his own choices. Regardless of upbringing, everyone is responsible for their own choices. Chris' problem is he's almost never held accountable for his.

Autists are particularly prone to suggestion and chris chan more than normal.

To a point. Getting him to act like a responsible adult is beyond that point.

Had bob forced chris to have a job,

You don't think Chris got that job at Wendy's voluntarily, do you?

monitored his internet usage

Bob wasn't called the internet lumberjack for nothing.

gave rigid guidelines on how to behave around others and particularly women

You think he didn't?

forced him to maintain certain routines of cleanliness.

Look at the pictures of Chris and 14BLC over time before and after Bob's death. Bob was the only thing keeping that household together. The house deteriorated in direct correlation as Chris grew larger and Bob was less able to physically control him. Then, once Bob was gone, the rot really set in. Unless Bob were capable of constantly overseeing Chris (with a whip) forever, Chris will always choose to be Chris whenever the oversight is removed. That's entirely on Chris.

tl;dr: Stop making up excuses for Chris.

the 5th anniversary of the emoji movie,

I'm pretty sure that's the one that matters, at least as regards to Chris.

It always stuns me how many self professed socialists arent themselves aware of what socialism is.

Karl Marx himself never practiced socialism. It's all made up wishful thinking bullshit from the start.

Socialism by definition is collective ownership of the means of production.

In practice it's total ownership of everything by the "party leaders" and "collective" only in propaganda. It's parasitism through and through.

People like to compare socialism to an ant colony. That is wrong. Socialism is a swamp filled with nothing but leeches.

No element of this is a market economy.

Cuba has a thriving black market, which is the only thing barely keeping the country afloat.

I would mention venezuela as well but we have no up to date information on the venezuelan economy.

What venezuelan economy?