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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Bye bye internet.
Nope. Root servers are all over the world. Russia needs the Internet, just like everyone else, if for nothing else, to spread their messages. And China needs the Internet, as well. For every measure there is a countermeasure.

Speaking of the Internet, also allows us to see Russians protesting the war.

This has turned into Putin's "tar baby". He and his command have fucked this up. They haven't paid attention to the history between Russia and Ukraine.

Vlad, declare victory and go home, while you still can.
 
Dafuq? The US Navy retired the legacy Hornet in the late 2010s. They only have Super Hornets now, most built in the early 2000s, with a fair number of F-35s on the way (of course the F-35 is having growing pains).
[Disregard if this guy is a Finn, Canadian, Kuwaiti, Swiss, Malaysian, or a US Marine.]
F35 is doing well now - sans some of them falling into the sea... - much of the problem was trying to have 3 jets in one airframe. Should have just been three different.

Allegedly, as a capability, absolutely outstanding.
 
Nope. Root servers are all over the world. Russia needs the Internet, just like everyone else, if for nothing else, to spread their messages. And China needs the Internet, as well. For every measure there is a countermeasure.

Speaking of the Internet, also allows us to see Russians protesting the war.

This has turned into Putin's "tar baby". He and his command have fucked this up. They haven't paid attention to the history between Russia and Ukraine.

Vlad, declare victory and go home, while you still can.
I think it's becoming pretty apparent that the first few days were Putin attempting a quick decapitation thrust like what the Soviets did in Czechoslovakia and Hungary and what he did with the Crimea expecting the Ukrainians wouldn't really fight back. Kiev will fall to a concerted Russian attack and they're committing more of their reserves to it now, but it won't be quick and clean like how Putin wanted.
 
I think it's becoming pretty apparent that the first few days were Putin attempting a quick decapitation thrust like what the Soviets did in Czechoslovakia and Hungary and what he did with the Crimea expecting the Ukrainians wouldn't really fight back. Kiev will fall to a concerted Russian attack and they're committing more of their reserves to it now, but it won't be quick and clean like how Putin wanted.
Define quick. 2 days, 4 days, a week, 2 weeks?
 
Brezhnev had half the Warsaw Pact in Prague in one day. Putin himself took Crimea in a couple of days and barely fired a shot doing so.
Ukraine, although a post-communist shithole, is still the third most militarily capable country after Russia and France. The Soviet Union was also not a declining power as Russia is.
Considering that, Russia is doing alright.
 
Ukraine, although a post-communist shithole, is still the third most militarily capable country after Russia and France. The Soviet Union was also not a declining power as Russia is.
Considering that, Russia is doing alright.
We'll see. You don't have to believe the Ukrainians' grandiose kill claims to think that the Russians aren't simply going to be able to drive straight into Maidan Square and overthrow Zelensky with little resistance, which is what would've been the optimal outcome here and is unlikely to happen now.
 
The Soviet Union was also not a declining power as Russia is.
I don't think this works as a blanket statement.

When the USSR fell, they fell FAST, in large part because their industrial capacity may have been large, but it wasn't good at churning out functional products.

Like when a ton of steel was used to make a tractor, it actually lost value going through the industrial process, so the tractor was worth less than the steel used to make it.

A lot of this, of course, has to do with the fact that every Russian man is a complete alcoholic. They're probably drinking the gasoline meant for their shitty tanks and APCs.
 
BEFORE: - Ukrainian government released video/audio and claimed Snake Island defenders fought to the death. - Russia claimed they surrendered, released video NOW: Ukrainian Ministry of Defense acknowledges they surrendered Minor in terms of war but has an impact on morale

 
I remember when /pol/tards were telling me that Ukraine was a weak puppet state that would capitulate in 48 hours. lol. Just lol.

I just want to remind all the Russian shills on here and elsewhere that your retarded government has effectively done the impossible:

They've united NATO, Europeans, Americans, and most of the democratic world against a common enemy for the first time since the fall of the Soviets. People who couldn't locate Ukraine on a map one week ago are now showing overwhelming support for it's defense. Even China is reluctant to support this dumbass war.

Russia has effectively shut itself out from the rest of the world DPRK style. They've created a permanent rift between themselves and the Ukrainian people that may never recover. This invasion will eventually turn into brutal occupation and insurgency that will take it's toll on an already weakened Russian populace

It doesn't matter how many cities you take or how many soldiers you kill. Long term, Russia WILL lose this war
 
I remember when /pol/tards were telling me that Ukraine was a weak puppet state that would capitulate in 48 hours. lol. Just lol.

I just want to remind all the Russian shills on here and elsewhere that your retarded government has effectively done the impossible:

They've united NATO, Europeans, Americans, and most of the democratic world against a common enemy for the first time since the fall of the Soviets. People who couldn't locate Ukraine on a map one week ago are now showing overwhelming support for it's defense. Even China is reluctant to support this dumbass war.

Russia has effectively shut itself out from the rest of the world DPRK style. They've created a permanent rift between themselves and the Ukrainian people that may never recover. This invasion will eventually turn into brutal occupation and insurgency that will take it's toll on an already weakened Russian populace

It doesn't matter how many cities you take or how many soldiers you kill. Long term, Russia WILL lose this war
Literally none of what you said is true.
 

Watch: Biden Just Said No One Expected Sanctions To Work On Russia, But His Administration Has Been Saying The Opposite FOR WEEKS​


You'd be retarded to think they won't work. The effect isn't immediate, but war costs money and resources. Once that runs out, Putin won't be so smug about them anymore, much less the Russian people. Putin thought it was gonna be a 7 hour war kinda situation, where he can barge in and the weak-ass Ukrainians would drop to their knees and capitulate, he wasn't prepared to fight a war lasting weeks or months. Most of the people weren't even told it was a full on invasion, but a 'military exercise.'

Also >notthebee
 
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