Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Cyber Floyd]

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This is amazing. It's like Mr.Bean joins the Ukrainian army.

 

[Delicious Diversity]

BREAKING NEWS OF SEVERE IMPORTANCE:

#UkrainianLivesDon'tMatterUntilBlackLivesMatter

 

[HumanHive]

Its like I want to be sympathetic to ukraine but the propaganda is so over the top i’m just annoyed with the entire thing

Definitely a double edged sword. Even if you're the underdog, nobody likes a liar.

 

[Mr Bunny]

I'm just going out on a limb here and say isn't this a conspiracy to get people off of Trudeau and the coronavirus?

Lol, but can be used as such yes.

 

[Borscht]

What is the situation with the peace talks? From what I have gathered so far, Ukraine has wavered between "we are ready to negotiate" and withdrawing the proposition in the next hour several times already. Thoughts?

 

[Su-27 Flanker-B]

If this is true then Eastern Ukraine has de facto fallen. What is your source?

That's Melitopol. There's also Mariopol, which is much bigger and further east, towards Donbass.

 

[naffatune]

Pics and videos suggest to me that Russian losses in combat have been RELATIVELY manageable. But I'm still left with a few things that seem particularly bad for the Russians. Namely destroyed and abandoned convoys. We had two destroyed columns of trucks near Kherson, and on top of that we've seen I think 3 or 4 abandoned convoys, including one that was of GRAD artillery instead of just supply trucks. Thoughts?

Yeah, it seems like there are quite a bit of convoys that are being deserted by Russian troops. Then again, that's what you see on Twitter and on the front page of r/combatfootage, so it's very likely biased towards the Ukie side.

When you pay attention to the Russian telegrams (e.g. @milinfolive, @voynareal, @istorijaoruzija, @ugolok_sitha), you realize that there is as much footage of Ukrainian vehicles getting abandoned and captured as there are Russian ones, and almost as much pictures of dead Ukie soldiers too

Despite this balance, my money is still on the Russians. Besides, if you're a country that finds itself giving troops weapons to civilians in order to form militias, it's probably a sign that your professional military is not in good shape.

 

[Meat Target]

If Russia going out of their way to not inflict civilian casualties (against the Russian nature) is genocide, then fuck me do I not want to see what a real Russian genocide would be.

The Holodomor, or Chechnya '99.

 

[Kerwin White]

Its like I want to be sympathetic to ukraine but the propaganda is so over the top i’m just annoyed with the entire thing

This is how I've felt about nearly everything for a long time now. It's not much fun.

 

[IFukYorMom]

This is amazing. It's like Mr.Bean joins the Ukrainian army.

To be fair magazines faling out of guns is very common no matter how much training you have, if youve ever watched a US police shooting bodycam video you'd know they accidently drop more magazines than niggers.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

If this is true then Eastern Ukraine has de facto fallen. What is your source?

Search for hashtah melitopol on twitter. There dozens of videos geolocated showing russians driving unopposed and hoisting flags

 

[Meat Target]

What is the situation with the peace talks? From what I have gathered so far, Ukraine has wavered between "we are ready to negotiate" and withdrawing the proposition in the next hour several times already. Thoughts?

Not happening until Zelensky is vanned. Putin has explicitly said there will be no ceasefire without Ukrainian surrender.

 

[Strix454]

What is the situation with the peace talks? From what I have gathered so far, Ukraine has wavered between "we are ready to negotiate" and withdrawing the proposition in the next hour several times already. Thoughts?

But sides are flirting with each other in a non-serious way. Neither has much interest at the moment.

 

[Breadbassket]

Yeah, it seems like there are quite a bit of convoys that are being deserted by Russian troops. Then again, that's what you see on Twitter and on the front page of r/combatfootage, so it's very likely biased towards the Ukie side.

When you pay attention to the Russian telegrams (e.g. @milinfolive, @voynareal, @istorijaoruzija, @ugolok_sitha), you realize that there is as much footage of Ukrainian vehicles getting abandoned and captured as there are Russian ones, and almost as much pictures of dead Ukie soldiers too

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Despite this balance, my money is still on the Russians. Besides, if you're a country that finds itself giving troops to civilians in order to form militias, it's probably a sign that your professional military is not in good shape.

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Ukraine is definitely taking casualties and losing ground but at the same I don't think Russia is progressing as fast as they would of liked. As for the civilians being given weapons while not really a good sign, they could be trying to get as prepared for partisan warfare as soon as possible.

 

[Shroom King]

Why does the NYT think this is good propaganda? If they actually need to deploy old women, then they are on the brink of defeat.

The NYT also thinks that you have to capitalize the b in black when writing about black people. They aren't exactly bright people.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

The M-1 has problems like needing extensive refurbishment after getting in contact with sand.
the gun is also outdated and cant be upgraded any further because the tank design is bad.

I pray we see the day where the M1A2 can help a bunch modernized Soviet junk disassemble itself. You're dreaming if you even think it's close. They'd honestly do better with a bunch of suicide Kornet teams.

 

[IKOL]

Do you just post Ukrainian cope or what? This is all Ukraine has to offer, bad Internet propaganda? Sad!

You've expected far more than that? Oh sweet intoxicating innocence.

 

[Ita Mori]

BREAKING NEWS OF SEVERE IMPORTANCE:

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#UkrainianLivesDon'tMatterUntilBlackLivesMatter

Never forget these fucking parasites.
They only come to pillage, ransack, and rape your lands.
But as soon as things get tough...

 

[The golden neckbeard]

I cant copy or share links on twitter from certain accounts. Wierd but search for melitopol you will see it. I legit cannot copy and paste the hyperlink without manually typing it.

Fuckin a

 

[Stoneheart]

You're dreaming if you even think it's close. They'd honestly do better with a bunch of suicide Kornet teams.

its not close, the M-1 has a way superior gun and better armor, the problems are in its design.