Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Keep in mind, @Stoneheart is a shit-talking Kraut who probably thinks the G36 or G11 never had problems because muh HK Space Magic.
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So does the US army lol.
 
I think people need to understand this:
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Different terrain, different military capabilities, different relationships with the country they are invading, amount of towns, hamlets, cities, and different strategic goals. Also, the advent of the Internet as it is now has changed how quickly people and defenses can respond to an invasion. these three are not exactly fair comparisons.
 
Is there a president for this on other conflicts? Anything similar in ww2, or in Iraq and Egypt among Isreali and American forces?
The precidents are ironically all in previous wars in the same area. The USSR-Polish war of 1920 (or so) and the battles of the Russian Civil War
and even to a degree things that happened during the french 1812 campaign. War in that geography is to a degree like a war sea. Its too big to
create continuous front lines and its very easy for the forces of the other side to get behind the advancing troops and go after supply
columns and such. The job used to be done by cavalry in the old days.

It didn't really happen with Egypt and the Israelis because hardly anyone lives in the Sinai. Convoy protection inside Iraq was always a huge
thing.. Keeping roads up and protecting convoys ate up big parts of manpower. The Iraqis couldn't do "big" attacks on convoys because
of the US air capabilities. But they still did alot.
 
gloating about dead locals when you are the invading force is not a good look. Whenever americans took pictures like that on Irak Michael Moore types would cream their pants and wouldn't stop copypasting everywhere
I agree. Again it def does happen but I imagine its much less due there almost certainly being orders in place against it.
 
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So does the US army lol.
It was a good gun when it was designed, without a doubt. The switch from 105mm to 120mm was a good decision too. It caused a little problems to be retrofitted into the A1's the had already rolled off the line and the M1 got junked pretty quick, but there was bigger problems back then with the fire control system and the intake filters. The biggest expense, by far, was a hidden one, which was swapping out all the 105mm ammunition for the 120mm ammunition and there was some problems in the APDSFS series of rounds.
 
so uh

how many brave anti-fa members have flown over there to stop putin?
Oh they have the perfect excuse from Vlad himself - he hunting Nazis after all. Which just means they should volunteer to help the Russkies punch those Nazis.
 
That is how the first Gulf War started.

Those babies being thrown out of incubators and the reward for the liars, was a 2nd Gulf War helping them again.
The Persian Gulf War was happening period because Saddam Hussein controlling Kuwait's oil and having even more border with Saudi Arabia to put tanks on was simply and rightly unacceptable to basically the entire world

Muh ded Kuwaiti babbies was window dressing
 
In other news, Chinese state banks sanction Russia after all. Looks like loyalty is not a virtue Russians will find in their new Chinese allies.

The Sino-Soviet Split occurs again. Although now it's the Sino-Russian Split.

History may not repeat itself exactly, but it does rhyme a lot.


>So Orban and Zemen did a 180 today. Kazakhstan refuses to lend troops. Turkey changed its mind in a day about blocking the Black sea. Brazil voted to condemn Russia. And China has kind of slowly walked out of the room. Oof.


>It's day 3, Kiev is 90 miles south of entry from the northern border. One of the worlds super powers doing a blitzkrieg should have taken that city by now. It's getting embarrassing.

I don't think Jim really "gets it". Putin is handling the "brother nation" of Ukraine with kid gloves. If at any moment he feels it necessary, he'll just Grozny the place up.

If Putin can't have Kiev, he'll simply destroy it and make it anew.
 
Are molotovs useful against modern tanks? All these militias aren't going to get much accomplished with small arms against Rusky tanks. Throwing paint is probably your worst option, but I know the IRA had a homemade RPG called the PRIG that had some success against light armor. I've seen one built and fired in person (just a dummy round) and they're not very complicated. They don't have much range but they seem like they would be effective in an urban environment where you can get high ground and shoot down onto the turret of the tank. Maybe they just want a bunch of armed civilians to use as distractions while the Uke anti armor squads can step in.

 
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